Online Now 769

The Lions' Pride

Black shoes, basic blues. No names, all game

On this Board 564
Record: 4947 (7/23/2012)

Online now 798
Record: 7381 (3/13/2012)

Boards ▾

The Lions' Pride

Black shoes, basic blues. No names, all game

Ticket Exchange

Buy, sell and swap tickets

Reply

urban meyer, folks

  • From Mike Bianchi, Orlando Sentinel (sorry, link for page wasn't working, fun read on UM)

    Running off at the typewriter. …

    It will be absolutely shocking if Gators coach Will Muschamp doesn't dismiss sophomore tight end A.C. Leonard from the team for the latest in the perpetual string of embarrassing UF arrests.

    Florida TE A.C. Leonard suspended following arrest for battery

    Muschamp is still trying to fumigate a dilapidated program left behind by Urban Meyer — a program bereft of not only talent and depth but honor and discipline. Muschamp dismissed his best player, Janoris Jenkins, from the team for a couple of pot arrests last year. Said Jenkins afterwards: "No doubt, if coach Meyer were still coaching, I'd still be playing for the Gators."

    The charges against Leonard are much worse than the charges against Jenkins. The police report accuses Leonard of shoving his live-in girlfriend to the ground and trying to drag her out of the apartment by the hair (see Lawrence Phillips, Nebraska, 1995).

    If these charges are true, it would be hard to imagine Leonard remaining on the team. He should either be dismissed entirely or suspended for a full season and made to take anger management classes.

    So far, Muschamp has suspended Leonard indefinitely and released a statement saying such conduct will not be "tolerated" or "condoned." Muschamp's statement was strong, but not nearly strong enough. Muschamp has used more forceful language to complain about rotten officiating calls and to rail against the NCAA last year for its suspension of Sharrif Floyd. He should have added that such conduct by Leonard is "deplorable, abhorrent and inexcusable."

    It's no secret Meyer recruited players and fostered an atmosphere that Muschamp is trying to clean up. Many of Meyer's recruits have transferred, not wanting to deal with a coach who actually holds them accountable for their actions. The arrest record under Meyer was embarrassing and already nine UF players have been arrested under Muschamp. It's no coincidence that eight of those nine players were either recruited by Meyer or committed to Meyer before Muschamp took the job.

    Even so, Muschamp is now the coach and must play the hand he's been dealt.

    His first play should be to discard any and every player who abuses women.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by tl1889 on 2/19/2012 at 11:38 PM

    signature image signature image

    "Who's Dan Morgan?"

    tl1889

  • I'll save everyone the trouble.

    Mike Bianchi: Will Muschamp still trying to fumigate stench left behind by Urban "Mire"

    Will Muschamp still trying to fumigate Gators stench left behind by Urban Meyer

    www.orlandosentinel.com
    signature image signature image signature image

    JettaPSU2001

  • This article is written by a guy who took every possible shot at PSU and Penn State and wrote some horrible things. Now he puts out a hate piece on Urban. Shocking.

    Don't waste any clicks on that author, he's a POS.

    signature image

    #DicedPineapples

    shavisimo2 ●

  • jetta thanks for simplifying my completely complex task of screwing that one up haha

    signature image signature image

    "Who's Dan Morgan?"

    tl1889

  • JettaPSU2001 said...

    I'll save everyone the trouble.

    It was just a bad link when I posted this, lol. Just FYI.

    signature image signature image signature image

    JettaPSU2001

  • tl1889 said...

    jetta thanks for simplifying my completely complex task of screwing that one up haha

    any time biggrin

    signature image signature image signature image

    JettaPSU2001

  • shavisimo2 said...

    This article is written by a guy who took every possible shot at PSU and Penn State and wrote some horrible things. Now he puts out a hate piece on Urban. Shocking.

    Don't waste any clicks on that author, he's a POS.

    i certainly believe it

    signature image signature image

    "Who's Dan Morgan?"

    tl1889

  • Would it be beneath BOB to hand out copies of that article to recruits? We all know some coaches would do it if the article was about Penn State.

    Just realized that it might actually help Meyer recruit some kids.

    signature image

    “We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill

    psujmc1992 ●

  • psujmc1992 said...

    Would it be beneath BOB to hand out copies of that article to recruits? We all know some coaches would do it if the article was about Penn State.

    Just realized that it might actually help Meyer recruit some kids.

    LOL I would be all for it... Meyer is a POS lol Feel bad for Muschamp... He has to build it from the ground up. Joe left BOB some hard working kids that want to get better... Not criminals lol

    signature image signature image signature image

    WE ARE! And we will always be...

    rmj147

  • urban liar is a POS.. how do kids not c dat.. how does he ask kids for their commitment when he is ovb'ly not committed to them.. jeez.. i guess all that matters is when he comes to ur school n flashes those two NC rings.. he uses it to hynotize them n commit.. lol.. gawd, i hate this man..

    Twitter: @PrashunGhosh

    PKG

  • rmj147 said...

    LOL I would be all for it... Meyer is a POS lol Feel bad for Muschamp... He has to build it from the ground up. Joe left BOB some hard working kids that want to get better... Not criminals lol

    Correct. Except at QB (unless Jones pulls his head out) Joe left Billy much better off.

    signature image signature image signature image

    pwpitch

  • I lived in Orlando for several years and it is interesting to see this come full circle AGAINST Urban Meyer. The Orlando Media (especially Bianchi) as always pro-UF and Bobby Bowden and FSU was the target. UF could do no wrong. Even when Zook was coach, there was countless articles about his approach and how he would win the big game one day.

    I am glad the truth is coming out about that program....Meyer knew the team was a mess and due for a downturn with AL, LSU, Auburn and even USCe on the rise. He created the diversion to get out and then jumped back in with OSU and will run the same type of program there. I just hope Delaney and the BIG coaches/AD's hold him accountable and expose him for what he is and then he can just fade away out of coaching.

    kc7597 ●

  • kc7597 said...

    I lived in Orlando for several years and it is interesting to see this come full circle AGAINST Urban Meyer. The Orlando Media (especially Bianchi) as always pro-UF and Bobby Bowden and FSU was the target. UF could do no wrong. Even when Zook was coach, there was countless articles about his approach and how he would win the big game one day.

    I am glad the truth is coming out about that program....Meyer knew the team was a mess and due for a downturn with AL, LSU, Auburn and even USCe on the rise. He created the diversion to get out and then jumped back in with OSU and will run the same type of program there. I just hope Delaney and the BIG coaches/AD's hold him accountable and expose him for what he is and then he can just fade away out of coaching.

    +1.

    TpaFan

  • this is why meyer would not have been a great fit here.. the "win at any cost" mentality wouldn't have been as accepted heere as it will be at OSU..

    BaltLions24

  • BaltLions24 said...

    this is why meyer would not have been a great fit here.. the "win at any cost" mentality wouldn't have been as accepted heere as it will be at OSU..

    I agree 100 %. We dodged a bullet with this one and I was very, very happy when Urban announced he was coaching Ohio. We don't need these types at PSU, let the Meyer's and the Pryors of the world go elsewhere. Just like I said with Pryor, Meyer is going to be at the heart of an ugly mess in the next 3-4 years.

    PSUGeddy

  • BaltLions24 said...

    this is why meyer would not have been a great fit here.. the "win at any cost" mentality wouldn't have been as accepted heere as it will be at OSU..

    Exactly. It was so sad to see many PSU fans in the tank for UM during last season.

    LambeauLeap

  • Living in FL, Bianchi just likes to write to shock people and be different. He is a whiney little wimp. I did not read the article but found it funny that he had no talent. I understand recruiting sites are not perfect, bit if you look at his record with recruiting, there should be plenty of talent. His teams in the end lacked strength esp on defense. Hopefully he takes the bite out of OSU's defense.

    pennstpete

  • pennstpete said...

    Living in FL, Bianchi just likes to write to shock people and be different. He is a whiney little wimp. I did not read the article but found it funny that he had no talent. I understand recruiting sites are not perfect, bit if you look at his record with recruiting, there should be plenty of talent. His teams in the end lacked strength esp on defense. Hopefully he takes the bite out of OSU's defense.

    I echo your thoughts on the recruiting. I have always thought Meyer is a very conflicted coach. He has a hard time dealing with wanting to win and wanting to do what is right. Unfortunately he seems to choose wanting to win too often.

    I find it funny that people applaud and point to recruiting rankings so often but then when a new coach comes in and struggles than the cupboard is bare. I think its hard to have it both ways. As far as him recruiting criminals. Who did he take that every other team in the SEC wouldn't have taken? Issues disciplining them sure. Maybe he did embrace a somewhat lawless culture but as far as recruiting he was just living by the law of the land.

    If he came to Penn state people would paint this as sour grapes just as Ohio St is going to do.

    Gunslinger317

  • psujmc1992 said...

    Would it be beneath BOB to hand out copies of that article to recruits?

    It probably is beneath BOB to do that, plus it would be a dumb idea because that kind of behavior would just beg others to hang Sandusky around his neck, and I'll bet someone could find articles doing just that.

    jetli

  • I worked with Meyer along time ago when he was on Holtz's staff at ND. I can confirm that he is as shady as it gets. But, next to Charlie Strong, UM is a Saint. How that guy has skated through without any major hits is beyond me. That Kim Dunbar situation at ND years ago...got swept under the rug for the most part....and it was BAD!

    signature image

    WVU90_94

  • psujmc1992 said...

    Would it be beneath BOB to hand out copies of that article to recruits? We all know some coaches would do it if the article was about Penn State.

    Just realized that it might actually help Meyer recruit some kids.

    I think Coach O'Brien has too much class to do that...he's a take the higher road type of guy!

    Domo ●

Penn State
247Sports
Features
Resources
Connect

247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports