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bob says no wildcat on o this year

  • First move bob has made that disappoints me...

    jcarlisle14

  • I see no reason to remove it from the toolbox unless we have real confidence in the QBs. It is also a tactic that works better in the college game currently than the pros, so I hope he doesn't have a preconceived notion about it's effectiveness

    POV

  • I'm fine with this to me you can stack the box I still find it gimmicky although it is effective occasionaly

    newera142052

  • Personally not a big fan of the wild cat as to me is speaks more of desperation than anything...and last year, I was happy to see it(yes that is how confident I was in our "O")

    If it were a change the pace once in a while I dont mind it, but Im hopin the reason for it being takin out is that Coach feels he and Fisher can do some things more traditionally this year.

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  • Why. We have enough to worry about in running our base offense than to try and learn a gimmick offense.

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    psu2013

  • And how does anyone know if he is telling the truth?

    “Never trust a government that doesn't trust its own citizens with guns.” Benjamin Franklin

    psuproud

  • That's OK. We've got some good weapons, but that's not the only way to use them. Our previous offense had no concept of how to get them the ball except directly snapping it to them.

    Also, look at some of the best offenses in the NFL - it's not necessarily that they do all sorts of things. Peyton Manning ran the same plays over and over, but the Colts ran them so freaking well that nobody could stop them. While none of our QB's are in the same galaxy as Manning, the principles are similar. BOB is going to teach our QB's to read a defense, and we shouldn't need those gimmicky type of plays to move the ball. JMO.

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  • psuproud said...

    And how does anyone know if he is telling the truth?

    And BOOM goes the dynamite.

    Brett Bielema: (after #5 throws a TD pass from a Wildcat formation) "But you said your werent' going to run the wildcat this year"

    BOB: I changed my mind.

    pennstatel0

  • Eh. The wildcat is a gimmick offense used most often by teams that struggle w/conventional offense. We needed the wildcat last season to generate a spark. It worked to some extent, but hopefully we will not need to rely on something like it to move the ball.

    Ldandy

  • psuproud said...

    And how does anyone know if he is telling the truth?

    Kind of what I was thinking. Even if you aren't planing on running it why say it out loud. Let opposing coaches use practice time preparing for it. If I wasn't going to run the WildLion I would tell the public "Yeah. It is going to be a big part of the offense". Keep 'em guessing.

    Sloepoke20

  • psu2013 said...

    Why. We have enough to worry about in running our base offense than to try and learn a gimmick offense.

    I guess you could call the wildcat gimmicky but IMO it shouldn't take that much time or effort to keep in the play book. Just get personnel straight and it's basically just 2 or 3 different QB runs. IMO it can have a place in a successful college offense.

    Sloepoke20

  • Sloepoke20 said...

    I guess you could call the wildcat gimmicky but IMO it shouldn't take that much time or effort to keep in the play book. Just get personnel straight and it's basically just 2 or 3 different QB runs. IMO it can have a place in a successful college offense.

    Let's get a successful college offense in place first.

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  • psu2013 said...

    Let's get a successful college offense in place first.

    For sure. That's definetly more important. Lol

    Sloepoke20

  • Seltz said...

    Personally not a big fan of the wild cat as to me is speaks more of desperation than anything...and last year, I was happy to see it(yes that is how confident I was in our "O")

    If it were a change the pace once in a while I dont mind it, but Im hopin the reason for it being takin out is that Coach feels he and Fisher can do some things more traditionally this year.

    What would make you think we can do some things more traditionally this year?

    I get it, I don't like having to run gimmicky spread stuff either and i can't wait to see a pro style offense. But we don't have the horses for that right now and jamming a square peg in a round hole is a stupid thing to do. Did Al Borges put Denard Robinson under center this year? No, because he's not stupid enough to push his philosophy at all costs. That's a very RichRod-esque thing to do.

    An Actual Lion

  • An Actual Lion said...

    What would make you think we can do some things more traditionally this year?

    I get it, I don't like having to run gimmicky spread stuff either and i can't wait to see a pro style offense. But we don't have the horses for that right now and jamming a square peg in a round hole is a stupid thing to do. Did Al Borges put Denard Robinson under center this year? No, because he's not stupid enough to push his philosophy at all costs. That's a very RichRod-esque thing to do.

    What would make ME think we can do things differently is irrelevant firstly. It is whether the Coaches think we can that matters.

    And who says we dont have the horses? I am one who feels the horses are better than some(again irrelevant), however, one of my favorite parts of college football is even if 85 guys return from X year to Y year, it is a different team. That age range allows for a large range of development in all directions. So going off of what was seen last year is a factor, but not the only one.

    And it is a new staff, with offensive upgrades all over. (call it my opinion there if ya like)

    I feel we dont need the gimmicky stuff. I expect a more effective offense this season in a few areas.

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  • I'm OK with this.

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    PSUjosh11

  • An Actual Lion said...

    What would make you think we can do some things more traditionally this year?

    I get it, I don't like having to run gimmicky spread stuff either and i can't wait to see a pro style offense. But we don't have the horses for that right now and jamming a square peg in a round hole is a stupid thing to do. Did Al Borges put Denard Robinson under center this year? No, because he's not stupid enough to push his philosophy at all costs. That's a very RichRod-esque thing to do.

    That's exactly what Borges did to DRob. He even talked this offseason about letting him run more, because they bottled him up too much last season.

    And I disagree about "not having the horses". Lots of talent on this offense. Just comes down to what BOB and Fisher can get out of McGloin.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • psuproud said...

    And how does anyone know if he is telling the truth?

    Exactly.

    BOB is in a very unique position being a first time head coach. Teams obviously know PSU will have a pro style offense, but he will have a lot of opportunities with trick plays and hurry up offense etc that college defenses can't really prepare for. Wildcat possibly one of them. I'm sure teams will look at Pats film to get a general idea, but its hard to correlate play calling with Tom Brady to McGloin. In other words, the element of surprise is with PSU this year on offense. Should be fun.

    LambeauLeap

  • leftcoastlion said...

    That's exactly what Borges did to DRob. He even talked this offseason about letting him run more, because they bottled him up too much last season.

    And I disagree about "not having the horses". Lots of talent on this offense. Just comes down to what BOB and Fisher can get out of McGloin.

    Compare what Borges ran at San Diego State to what Michigan ran last year. It was far closer to a RichRod spread than a Borges power running attack.

    I think there is a lot of talent on the line and at running back and enough at receiver. Unfortunately, at the most important position in sports there is MAC level talent. If Danny O'Brien were here, I'd say full steam ahead with a balanced pro style attack. But he's not and we'd better be able to deal with the reality of what we have.

    We don't beat O$U last year without the wildcat. It's stupid to cut it out completely.

    An Actual Lion

  • An Actual Lion said...

    Compare what Borges ran at San Diego State to what Michigan ran last year. It was far closer to a RichRod spread than a Borges power running attack.

    I think there is a lot of talent on the line and at running back and enough at receiver. Unfortunately, at the most important position in sports there is MAC level talent. If Danny O'Brien were here, I'd say full steam ahead with a balanced pro style attack. But he's not and we'd better be able to deal with the reality of what we have.

    We don't beat O$U last year without the wildcat. It's stupid to cut it out completely.

    You're right, we wouldn't beat OSU last year without the Wildcat.

    We also had Jay Paterno running the show. I think some of you grossly underestimate the impact that your high school offensive scheming had on our offensive success.

    Simply by having a more clever offensive scheme and more intuitive and timely play calling by BOB we will put MM in a better position to succeed. Throw in a year of improved mechanics (which were simply not taught at PSU under Jay Paterno) and I think the degree of improvement from the offense could be substantial. That isn't to mention improved position coaching across the board offensively (at every-single-position).

    We needed the Wildcat because our offensive coaching staff was unable to do anything that actually required finesse and understanding of the game. That is no longer the case.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • psu2013 said...

    Why. We have enough to worry about in running our base offense than to try and learn a gimmick offense.

    Umm, Matt McGloin is our starting QB. We need all the gimmicks our offense can handle to overcome his lack of talent. It needed to be used more last year. It was a horrible coaching decision to not use it last year until Scrap allowed it.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • Seltz said...

    What would make ME think we can do things differently is irrelevant firstly. It is whether the Coaches think we can that matters.

    And who says we dont have the horses? I am one who feels the horses are better than some(again irrelevant), however, one of my favorite parts of college football is even if 85 guys return from X year to Y year, it is a different team. That age range allows for a large range of development in all directions. So going off of what was seen last year is a factor, but not the only one.

    And it is a new staff, with offensive upgrades all over. (call it my opinion there if ya like)

    I feel we dont need the gimmicky stuff. I expect a more effective offense this season in a few areas.

    Our offense couldn't get any less efficient then they have been. Its not saying a whole lot when one states our offense will be more efficient this year than last year.

    As far as talent goes, we don't have it at the most important position. This running the wildcat sometimes.

    Completely ruling out the wildcat is stupid and poor coaching imo.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • (not well versed here..... up front).... but:
    I don't see a huge difference between running the "wildcat" vs. the option offense that ran ad nausea with Tebow... Pat White... our "Spread HD" w/ M Rob.... take out a QB, throw in 2 RB's?.... put talented people on the field and call plays that move the chains.

    call it a gimmick all ya want.... a first down = a first down.

    I doubt he's that solid on refusing to run it. I wouldn't be honest whatsoever at this point in time if I were BO'B.

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  • Id rather not see the wildcat this year, because that means we dont need it.

    MM had enough time learning and executing a HS offense, the douche is over matched in a real O. Go Drake.

    MTayl72

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