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  • Posas14 said...

    Well if the recap of his team meeting is accurate.....he told his players he's not going to PSU.....

    He's either been rejected, or he's lying to his team....

    Would be hard to say he is going to Penn State when there are no offers out. And what he was asked has been conflicted in multiple reports. Anything from he is not going, to he is not the coach, to him staying there. At this point I would expect him to say nothing else. One because he doesn't have an offer; two because there would be negotiations to deal with; three because there is no reason to lose his team over something that is far from being a lock.

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  • MTayl72 said...

    Damn didn;t know Penn State thought he was a jerk and didn't want him. Missed that memo. I'll take an arrogant guy as a coach any day, you have to be one to be successful. Every coach has a big ego, every last one of em. Except for Tony Dungy, I haven't seen one that isn't outwardly egotistical to some degree and successful. Not to mention I went on a mini web surfing adventure to look at interviews of Mullen because you are such an expert on his attitude, and I disagree. Not much more of a jerk than anyone else.

    I think he's a perfectly good football coach. My impression is that he could probably win games.

    I just have the impression that his skill set is heavily skewed toward rational thinking, vs emotional leadership..

    He can win some games, but I just believe he lacks the big picture of building a program that people like Richt, Saban or Franklin (potentially) do...

    Just my thinking... When reviewing talent, isn't it appropriate to benchmark them vs both the technical and soft elements of the job? Even if the word 'jerk' is hyperbole, would you agree that the three people above have more developed people leadership skills / potential?

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  • Posas14 said...

    I think he's a perfectly good football coach. My impression is that he could probably win games.

    I just have the impression that his skill set is heavily skewed toward rational thinking, vs emotional leadership..

    He can win some games, but I just believe he lacks the big picture of building a program that people like Richt, Saban or Franklin (potentially) do...

    Just my thinking... When reviewing talent, isn't it appropriate to benchmark them vs both the technical and soft elements of the job? Even if the word 'jerk' is hyperbole, would you agree that the three people above have more developed people leadership skills / potential?

    I don't buy anything that starts with "I feel" and references a few interviews and tv shows as well as hearsay information. Franklin has less experience leading a program than Mullen does, and it has been said that he has some refining to do as well before being the Big Time coach. But that is to be expected, it takes time. i think he could be a pretty darn good coach down the road.

    Saban and Richt obviously have more experience growing a program and are more sure things in the coaching world than Mullen is, no doubt about that. Saban is just as much of an ego as Mullen is. Nick is a smooth talker, and osme could say snake. Mullen is brash and bold. They both win games and I would be thrilled with either one. Richt has an ego, albeit a much smaller one. he is also a good Christian man and has the respect of the media and many coaches around the country for the way he runs his program.

    And sure, soft elements matter. But winning solves everything. Period.

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  • Posas14 said...

    Well if the recap of his team meeting is accurate.....he told his players he's not going to PSU.....

    He's either been rejected, or he's lying to his team....

    Or maybe he hasn't even been offered the job yet. It's not a lie to say your not going somewhere when as od the time timbered asked you weren't going cause there was no offer.

    You either don't know what you are talking about or you need to wear a helmet.

    And diverge record, you know who was real arrogant? The man being replaced.

    This post was edited by sneakypete on 11/30/2011 at 12:06 AM

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  • Posas14 said...

    I think he's a perfectly good football coach. My impression is that he could probably win games.

    I just have the impression that his skill set is heavily skewed toward rational thinking, vs emotional leadership..

    He can win some games, but I just believe he lacks the big picture of building a program that people like Richt, Saban or Franklin (potentially) do...

    Just my thinking... When reviewing talent, isn't it appropriate to benchmark them vs both the technical and soft elements of the job? Even if the word 'jerk' is hyperbole, would you agree that the three people above have more developed people leadership skills / potential?

    No, Franklin hasn't developed more people leadership skills/development.

    I'd even argue that if Maryland, who previously named him HCIW, decided to hire someone else, we might want to take a pass on him.

    The big picture is to win football games and you said it yourself, he can win football games.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

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  • Cambria Nittany said...

    I bet it is Bobby Petrino. Apparently there was mutual interest between Petrino and PSU during the 2004 timeframe.

    I would HATE rooting for him to succeed. Anyone remember the "fly-by-night" job he pulled in Atlanta??? If we are trying to reinstate class as the selling point of the program, we cannot hire Petrino.

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  • MTayl72 said...

    he is also a good Christian man

    Well, that's important. Just like Tressel was a good Christian man. That means they are ethical, amirite?

    This post was edited by JudgeSmailsPSU on 11/30/2011 at 7:35 AM

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  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    Well, that's important. Just like Tressel was a good Christian man. That means they are ethical, amirite?

    actually, I believe Richt has been one of the cleaner SEC recruiters.

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  • bonovoxpsu said...

    actually, I believe Richt has been one of the cleaner SEC recruiters.

    I can agree with that.

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  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    Well, that's important. Just like Tressel was a good Christian man. That means they are ethical, amirite?

    Hmmm....I think that's the first time I ever heard "good Christian man" and Tressel in the same sentence.

    Sloepoke20

  • Sloepoke20 said...

    Hmmm....I think that's the first time I ever heard "good Christian man" and Tressel in the same sentence.

    Go talk to an OSU fan...any single one. Accd to them, he was walking next to Jesus on the water, and dunked Peter.

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  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    Well, that's important. Just like Tressel was a good Christian man. That means they are ethical, amirite?

    Sadly, no. It would be nice if the two were always synonymous. Richt's recruiting record is clean, but the academic integrity of his program leaves much to be desired. He's made a conscious effort to clean it up in the past 2-3 seasons...raising his GR by nearly 30%. But, it's tough to support long stretches of sub-50% GR and signing a lot of NQs.

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  • Sloepoke20 said...

    Hmmm....I think that's the first time I ever heard "good Christian man" and Tressel in the same sentence.

    I remember reading an article where it basically said Tressel would pray with people and study his Bible in the morning, then go cheat kids out of awards at camps in the afternoon.

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  • Sloepoke20 said...

    Hmmm....I think that's the first time I ever heard "good Christian man" and Tressel in the same sentence.

    www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/06/02/ohio.state...fan/index.html

    Jun 3, 2011 – The resignation of Jim Tressel as OSU's head football coach is a reminder of ... The straight-laced, conservative, good Christian Tressel led the

    www.christianpost.com › Entertainment
    May 31, 2011 – One Mansfield resident called him "an honorable, Christian man" ...

    sanctusblog.blogspot.com/2011/.../giving-good-christian-bad-name.h...
    Jun 2, 2011 – The Jim Tressel debacle which has rocked the football program at Ohio State is bound to give the "good Christian" a bad name yet again. ...

    www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/.../ohio-states-jim-tressel-and-usaf...
    May 31, 2011 – Mike, are you glad that we invited Jim Tressel as a special speaker for the 2010 National Christian Leadership Conference?...

    www.scoresreport.com/2011/06/14/bissinger-defends-lebron/
    Jun 14, 2011 – Why is he hated more than recently resigned Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel, who under the cloak of being a good Christian did nothing .

    snotap.blogspot.com/2011/05/jim-tressels-double-life.html
    May 31, 2011 – Jim Tressel is like the private school honor student that everyone believes is a good Christian and is a model citizen in society. Although, this ...

    http://www.ccci.org/ministries-and-locations/ministries/athletes-in-action/night-of-champions-2010.htm
    AIA Honors Jim Tressel
    “We chose to induct Coach Tressel because of how he carries himself on and off the field, in victory or in defeat,” says AIA’s Dave Lower. “He continues to live a life of high character, faith, and an unshakable consistency in these areas along with having a very mature sense of leadership and personal responsibility. He is a true role model for his athletes and other coaches in every way and has a consistent walk with the Lord.”

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  • LuvtheBuckeyes said...

    classic.....PSU fans mocking Tressel being a "good christian man" with what is going on at your great university. unbelievably funny.

    Thanks for dropping by big guy. Has Meyer met any of those cheerleaders yet?

    Have fun at the Little Caesar's Pizza Bowl this year.

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  • LuvtheBuckeyes said...

    classic.....PSU fans mocking Tressel being a "good christian man" with what is going on at your great university. unbelievably funny.

    Thanks. I did a little standup at some open mike nights, that kind of thing. Always nice to get some positive feedback.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    Thanks. I did a little standup at some open mike nights, that kind of thing. Always nice to get some positive feedback.

    You know what I found hilarious? Stephon Green dashing down the middle of the field while the vaunted Buckeyes D sat there bewildered and confused. That was great.

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  • LuvtheBuckeyes said...

    classic.....PSU fans mocking Tressel being a "good christian man" with what is going on at your great university. unbelievably funny.

    I don't recall Sandusky claiming to perform his acts in the name of a higher power either.

    One man is criminally dangerous. The other is ethically contradictory. Big difference between the two, but in the framework of discussion (which was Mark Richt's credibility based on religious beliefs), Tressel's example was relevant. No one compared him to Sandusky, nor should they. Sandusky's acts fall well beyond the realm of running a football program, and if true, no one wants to see him appropriately punished more than the PSU community.

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  • tdiddy said...

    I don't recall Sandusky claiming to perform his acts in the name of a higher power either.

    One man is criminally dangerous. The other is ethically contradictory. Big difference between the two, but in the framework of discussion (which was Mark Richt's credibility based on religious beliefs), Tressel's example was relevant. No one compared him to Sandusky, nor should they. Sandusky's acts fall well beyond the realm of running a football program, and if true, no one wants to see him appropriately punished more than the PSU community.

    Well put.

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  • I just enjoyed that Judge pulled out that one small snippet from a rather large post to look at. Him being a good Christian man as I put it was not the end all be all, just a factor. Tony Dungy happens to be one as well but he's probably full of scandal too. Wait, nope. Its part of the image that Richt has, just stating facts.

    But cherry pick on fellas.

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    Him being a good Christian man as I put it was not the end all be all, just a factor.

    Shouldn't be a factor.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • LuvtheBuckeyes said...

    I understand all that. And I do have many PSU friends who share the same goals of wanting everyone involved punished--any sane person would.

    But if you do not find the irony and hypocrisy involved in mocking someone who acts one way publicly and then does some things that go against that portrayed public image--with all that is going on at PSU--then I do not know what to say.

    No one is defending Jerry Sandusky. You are defending Tressel.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    Shouldn't be a factor.

    Not that I disagree with you, but it is. Has been and will be, especially in the face of a scandal like this. It helps give him a cleaner issue. Whine all you want about it but it is what it is.

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...
    It helps give him a cleaner issue.

    Wat.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    Wat.

    I meant cleaner persona. My bad just rolled out of bed and have been running a fever, shit gets all mangled up in my head lol.

    MTayl72