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Would PSU leave B1G for ACC??

  • Interesting assessment for both PSU and ND to end up in the ACC but I don't think there's a chance in hell this happens.

    ACC additions could be only the start

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  • Yes. Academically, Duke, UNC, UVA, BC and GT are better than NW, UM and whoever else is at the top of the Big 10. The Big 10 can't even count to 12. I'm all for switching.

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  • Like mentioned in the article, it's pretty well known that PSU wanted in to the ACC back when we were looking and ultimately ended up in the B1G but I just don't see us bolting now. I'll admit, geographically, we aren't a great fit in the conference and many fan bases don't want us in the conference either, which is fine. It will be interesting to see if this has any context and if it's even thought of. I would love a move to the ACC but I just don't see it happening.

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  • It seems pretty far-fetched, but if it did happen, I'm wondering if the basketball team would ever win a conference game...

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  • From just a fan perspective, would be pretty cool to be in the ACC. Penn State, Florida State, Va Tech, Notre Dame, pretty strong Top 4 teams. Not to mention, we would probably play Pitt every year...actually having a true rival (Along with playing all our other old rivalries).

    Honestly, after thinking about it more and more...certainly wouldn't mind the move. Problem is, NO WAY will Penn State leave the Big Ten.

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  • No way. Money talks. Plus I would rather play Michigan and Ohio St. than anyone the ACC can offer.

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  • if the ACC could get ND...then it becomes more feasible from a financial standpoint.

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  • It will never, ever happen and anyone who seriously suggests it is either dreaming, uninformed, or both. Penn State is quite happy to be in the Big Ten and will not be leaving.

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  • PSUjosh11 said...

    Like mentioned in the article, it's pretty well known that PSU wanted in to the ACC back when we were looking and ultimately ended up in the B1G but I just don't see us bolting now. I'll admit, geographically, we aren't a great fit in the conference and many fan bases don't want us in the conference either, which is fine. It will be interesting to see if this has any context and if it's even thought of. I would love a move to the ACC but I just don't see it happening.

    Name a fan base that does not want you in the conference? Something legit also. Not some rogue thread from a message board. I think 99.9999% of the Big Ten think you have been a fantastic, AAA addition.

    ErnieMcCracken

  • ErnieMcCracken said...

    Name a fan base that does not want you in the conference? Something legit also. Not some rogue thread from a message board. I think 99.9999% of the Big Ten think you have been a fantastic, AAA addition.

    Are you serious? O$U and Michigan clearly do not think we belong in the Big Ten. I used to work for a corporation based in Columbus. Fans there made no bones about the fact that PSU isn't good enough to be in the Big Ten. Because of it I enjoy every loss O$U has and have reveled in their public humiliation over the pay for play scandal. I haven't rooted for Miami since the early 80's until Saturday, loved the outcome.

    danmcc

  • I don't know what that guy is smoking, but he should share. ND isn't joining the ACC, travel for them would be a bitch. As far as PSU??? That is laughable. The ACC can't approach the money that the B1G offers. None of their programs offer a big enough following to come close. They would need PSU and ND for anybody to care about their network. The B1G currently gives about 20 million a team, if ND were to join that could actually increase. The ACC needs to keep dreaming. Texas was a better bet for them and they supposedly said no.

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  • danmcc said...

    Are you serious? O$U and Michigan clearly do not think we belong in the Big Ten. I used to work for a corporation based in Columbus. Fans there made no bones about the fact that PSU isn't good enough to be in the Big Ten. Because of it I enjoy every loss O$U has and have reveled in their public humiliation over the pay for play scandal. I haven't rooted for Miami since the early 80's until Saturday, loved the outcome.

    So your trashy Ohio State douche bag office workers reflect a consensus within the broader Big Ten community? If you have not learned by now the state of Ohio sucks ass in general. Maybe you just take it for what it is. Co-workers talking trash.

    As for inclusion, conference named it's championship trophy after Paterno. The hockey members have dropped everything to get you in. You get a huge paycheck.

    ErnieMcCracken

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  • ftlawdog said...

    I don't know what that guy is smoking, but he should share. ND isn't joining the ACC, travel for them would be a bitch. As far as PSU??? That is laughable. The ACC can't approach the money that the B1G offers. None of their programs offer a big enough following to come close. They would need PSU and ND for anybody to care about their network. The B1G currently gives about 20 million a team, if ND were to join that could actually increase. The ACC needs to keep dreaming. Texas was a better bet for them and they supposedly said no.

    I'm all for going east in expansion if it means no one takes a hit on the bottom line. Would Penn State be willing to take a hit financially along with rest of the big ten just to get one of your east coast friends in? The ACC just made 2 basketball additions and we all know what pays the bills. I don't think highly of what they did other than self preservation by taking out the Big East.

    This post was edited by ErnieMcCracken on 9/19/2011 at 12:00 AM

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  • ErnieMcCracken said...

    So your trashy Ohio State douche bag office workers reflect a consensus within the broader Big Ten community? If you have not learned by now the state of Ohio sucks ass in general. Maybe you just take it for what it is. Co-workers talking trash.

    As for inclusion, conference named it's championship trophy after Paterno. The hockey members have dropped everything to get you in. You get a huge paycheck.

    Valid point regarding the name on the trophy. And yes, in the broader perspective PSU has been welcomed by a number of schools in the Big Ten.

    Regarding O$U, your post that I responded to asked to name a fan base that did not want PSU as part of the conference, not the broader Big Ten community noted in your second post. O$U clearly fits the bill from my personal experience, not just office workers but in the Shoe. Your description of Ohio State fans fits the bill. It would never happen but O$U should get thrown out of the Big Ten, they have tarnished the conference.

    danmcc

  • danmcc said...

    Valid point regarding the name on the trophy. And yes, in the broader perspective PSU has been welcomed by a number of schools in the Big Ten.

    Regarding O$U, your post that I responded to asked to name a fan base that did not want PSU as part of the conference, not the broader Big Ten community noted in your second post. O$U clearly fits the bill from my personal experience, not just office workers but in the Shoe. Your description of Ohio State fans fits the bill. It would never happen but O$U should get thrown out of the Big Ten, they have tarnished the conference.

    Ohio State fans travel to East Lansing and get drunk, start fights and piss in the bushes. That is just who they are. I don't take it personally. I just take it for who they are. As for Michigan- I live in Ann Arbor. I have never had a conversation with anyone about knocking Penn State but they sure as hell have fun belittling my Spartans. As for both of them controlling the conference I think that is entirely untrue. I imagine Penn State because of football would have a natural pissing match with them however my school is the basketball power in the conference and to think those idiots control what we do is laughable. Michigan is not even in the room regarding what happens with basketball.

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  • I don't think ND cares about travel. They play USC, BC, and Pitt every year, along with the service academies. That said, I think they'd prefer the Big Ten to the ACC, too. That's just a guess, though. Based on all the stuff I'm reading, they have no reason to panic and jump to any conference right away. The B1G doesn't have to panic, either.

    As for PSU going to the ACC, while it sounds interesting on it's face, that's a long-term loser for Penn State. The ACC, while seemingly making a power-move, is still susceptible to an SEC raid (though certainly less so than last week). Also, I believe the Big Ten does not have an exit fee, but the schools HAVE agreed to give up their TV rights for 20-25 years or so if they leave the conference. THAT is worse than an exit fee.

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    Yes. Academically, Duke, UNC, UVA, BC and GT are better than NW, UM and whoever else is at the top of the Big 10. The Big 10 can't even count to 12. I'm all for switching.

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    Research universities & graduate programs show where the real rubber meets the road: $$$$$$$ for the university. Use the links to show how strong PSU & other B1G school are in research revenue. Most ACC schools can't even sniff Penn State's research power.

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  • PSUjosh11 said...

    Interesting assessment for both PSU and ND to end up in the ACC but I don't think there's a chance in hell this happens.

    Would PSU move to the ACC.......NO!

    This post was edited by psu1958 on 9/19/2011 at 4:44 PM

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  • Penn State is just forging a D1 hockey program, they aren't about to go to the ACC where lacrosse is the #3 sport and hockey is an afterthought.

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  • con said...

    Penn State is just forging a D1 hockey program, they aren't about to go to the ACC where lacrosse is the #3 sport and hockey is an afterthought.

    Umm baseball is the number 3 sport by far in the south.

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  • yalikeMoxie said...

    I don't think ND cares about travel. They play USC, BC, and Pitt every year, along with the service academies. That said, I think they'd prefer the Big Ten to the ACC, too. That's just a guess, though. Based on all the stuff I'm reading, they have no reason to panic and jump to any conference right away. The B1G doesn't have to panic, either.

    As for PSU going to the ACC, while it sounds interesting on it's face, that's a long-term loser for Penn State. The ACC, while seemingly making a power-move, is still susceptible to an SEC raid (though certainly less so than last week). Also, I believe the Big Ten does not have an exit fee, but the schools HAVE agreed to give up their TV rights for 20-25 years or so if they leave the conference. THAT is worse than an exit fee.

    Good point about the travel issue not being a big problem. Maybe, you guys should check out my board, seems like a lot of fans would rather join the ACC over the B10.

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  • Penn State is academically and research-wise so entwined with its fellow B1G Universities so as to make this "fantasy" a moot point. But it does make good fodder for 247 sports boards chat!

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  • Ummm you missed the point and not only is lacrosse bigger than baseball at many if not most ACC schools, it damn near rivals football (i.e. UVA, Syracuse, MD, Duke)

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  • I don't think you can call lacrosse the bigger sport when it's still at the club level in half the schools. I'm not saying that the lacrosse schools they have aren't very strong, but to call it bigger at this point is too far imo. I understand hockey would take a step back, but they always can join a hockey only league (I'm not going to lie, I don't know much about college hockey but I'm sure those conferences exist).

    PSUfan28