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Who will get drafted?

  • I think Devon Still would be selected 1st or 2nd round
    Derrick Moye: 5th or 6th
    D'anton Lynn?
    Nick Suckay maybe?
    Nate Stupar???

    I been curious, who may get drafted from penn state this upcoming draft, thoughts?

    kdog

  • Yeah, I think Still is a mid to late first round pick at this point, maybe early second.

    Moye will be drafted, if only because of his measurables (height, has decent speed).

    Lynn will be drafted - CB's are valued so highly, and it always seem that tons of them are drafted every year. He's an experienced, big guy. Again, decent measurables.

    Sukay...doubt it.

    Stupar...maybe late, late in the draft.

    Crawford will be drafted late. Someone will take a flier on him based on athleticism.

    Latimore - no way. I hope he has a good degree.

    Troutman should get drafted, but hard to say with PSU OL, as they've really, really underachieved and may have a bit of a stigma.

    Okoli probably won't be drafted. Szczerba, probably not, but it's possible if he shows well at the combine.

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  • I think you guys are undervaluing Still big time. I don't think any other DL will go before him.

    Itzsessil

  • Still is a lock, as is Hill in the late rounds if he decides to go early.

    Lynn is a maybe late round pick as a safety, and Sukay is a definite no.

    I like Moye as a UFA.

    Troutman might get a look just because of his measurables, but that is it for the offense IMO.

    We've got some potential picks on the squad now, but they're not realistically eligible yet.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Yeah, I think Still is a mid to late first round pick at this point, maybe early second.

    Moye will be drafted, if only because of his measurables (height, has decent speed).

    Lynn will be drafted - CB's are valued so highly, and it always seem that tons of them are drafted every year. He's an experienced, big guy. Again, decent measurables.

    Sukay...doubt it.

    Stupar...maybe late, late in the draft.

    Crawford will be drafted late. Someone will take a flier on him based on athleticism.

    Latimore - no way. I hope he has a good degree.

    Troutman should get drafted, but hard to say with PSU OL, as they've really, really underachieved and may have a bit of a stigma.

    Okoli probably won't be drafted. Szczerba, probably not, but it's possible if he shows well at the combine.

    I'll probably do a UFR draft column after the year is over, but for now-

    Still- 1st or 2nd round, leaning towards first

    Moye- probably a late round pick, think he's actually dropped this year. He really struggles at times against good press coverage. Could help himself with a sub 4.5 forty (think he'll probably run right around 4.5)

    Lynn- Zero chance he's drafted as a CB, not fast enough (guessing he'll run around 4.55-4.60) and doesn't break on the ball well enough. Guess there's a chance someone will take a late round flyer on him as a safety, but I'm guessing he goes undrafted at this point

    Sukay- unlikely, not quick/fast enough to play DB in the NFL, doesn't take great angles, doesn't tackle well in the open field

    Stupar- Interesting one here, I think he's probably played himself into the draft this year, has plenty of speed and is getting off blocks better, combine is big for him

    Crawford- Should get a combine invite, not sure his play dictates getting drafted, but he has shown improvement over the course of the season and he certainly passes the looks test

    Latimore- nope

    Troutman- I think he'll get drafted. You can't teach brute strength, he has it, he moves reasonably well. No idea where he'll get drafted, but I think he gets drafted.

    Okoli- nope

    Astorino- throwing him in here because a handful of scouts/coaches will watch his film and like what they see. His measurables will be better than some think. It's unlikely, but I think there's an outside chance some team gets a little crush on him and takes him in the last round or something crazy like that.

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  • gemrich said...

    I'll probably do a UFR draft column after the year is over, but for now-

    Still- 1st or 2nd round, leaning towards first

    Moye- probably a late round pick, think he's actually dropped this year. He really struggles at times against good press coverage. Could help himself with a sub 4.5 forty (think he'll probably run right around 4.5)

    Lynn- Zero chance he's drafted as a CB, not fast enough (guessing he'll run around 4.55-4.60) and doesn't break on the ball well enough. Guess there's a chance someone will take a late round flyer on him as a safety, but I'm guessing he goes undrafted at this point

    Sukay- unlikely, not quick/fast enough to play DB in the NFL, doesn't take great angles, doesn't tackle well in the open field

    Stupar- Interesting one here, I think he's probably played himself into the draft this year, has plenty of speed and is getting off blocks better, combine is big for him

    Crawford- Should get a combine invite, not sure his play dictates getting drafted, but he has shown improvement over the course of the season and he certainly passes the looks test

    Latimore- nope

    Troutman- I think he'll get drafted. You can't teach brute strength, he has it, he moves reasonably well. No idea where he'll get drafted, but I think he gets drafted.

    Okoli- nope

    Astorino- throwing him in here because a handful of scouts/coaches will watch his film and like what they see. His measurables will be better than some think. It's unlikely, but I think there's an outside chance some team gets a little crush on him and takes him in the last round or something crazy like that.

    Personally I don't see Astorino getting drafted. He's just not big enough.

    He might make a career as a practice team nickelback or something like that, but he doesn't have the size to be an NFL safety IMO.

    Hopefully he proves me wrong though. Been lucky enough to meet him a few times, absolutely a tremendous individual. A lot of fun and very responsible.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    Personally I don't see Astorino getting drafted. He's just not big enough.

    He might make a career as a practice team nickelback or something like that, but he doesn't have the size to be an NFL safety IMO.

    Hopefully he proves me wrong though. Been lucky enough to meet him a few times, absolutely a tremendous individual. A lot of fun and very responsible.

    Astorino reminds me of Jim Leonard in a way. Small, isn't the fastest or quickest guy. But he's smart and always in position. He doesn't have the turnovers in college that Leonard did, but he played hurt and banged up for 2 years. Although being hurt doesn't help his chances either.

    Jay23

  • kdog said...

    I think Devon Still would be selected 1st or 2nd round Derrick Moye: 5th or 6th D'anton Lynn? Nick Suckay maybe? Nate Stupar???

    I been curious, who may get drafted from penn state this upcoming draft, thoughts?

    I also think Powell has an outside shot. He has great size for a corner (or safety really), good speed, and serves as a returner on special teams which teams value. Maybe a camp invite if not drafted late.

    Jay23

  • Texas Lion said...

    Personally I don't see Astorino getting drafted. He's just not big enough.

    He might make a career as a practice team nickelback or something like that, but he doesn't have the size to be an NFL safety IMO.

    Hopefully he proves me wrong though. Been lucky enough to meet him a few times, absolutely a tremendous individual. A lot of fun and very responsible.

    I don't think he's big enough to start in the NFL, or play many downs in the NFL. I just think there's an outside chance that someone decides he worth the risk and takes a 7th round flyer on him. It's certainly not likely, but I don't think it's impossible.

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  • Jay23 said...

    I also think Powell has an outside shot. He has great size for a corner (or safety really), good speed, and serves as a returner on special teams which teams value. Maybe a camp invite if not drafted late.

    I'd be very surprised if he gets drafted (if he's not invited to the combine, and he probably won't be, then I'll be very very surprised). He has size and speed, but he has a few things working against him. There won't be much film to go on (one of the interesting things that happened this year is that people have picked on Lynn more than Powell), and he's not much of a tackler. Someone would have to draft him based purely on measurables, and that isn't likely to happen if he isn't invited to the combine.

    gemrich ●

  • Itzsessil said...

    I think you guys are undervaluing Still big time. I don't think any other DL will go before him.

    Even if true, not sure how much that says if it's a weak DL class. Quinton Coples should go before Still.

    And I'm not so sure we're undervaluing him. You guys remember how great Odrick was? And he was drafted 28th.

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  • JO doesn't have Stills first step though. I don't think he gets past 15.

    Itzsessil

  • gemrich said...

    I'd be very surprised if he gets drafted (if he's not invited to the combine, and he probably won't be, then I'll be very very surprised). He has size and speed, but he has a few things working against him. There won't be much film to go on (one of the interesting things that happened this year is that people have picked on Lynn more than Powell), and he's not much of a tackler. Someone would have to draft him based purely on measurables, and that isn't likely to happen if he isn't invited to the combine.

    Yea him bouncing around from wr to cb doesn't help his cause either. Which is why maybe some team decides to make him sort of a project player, since he's still relatively new to the position. Who knows, I'm usually overly optimistic anyway.

    Jay23

  • My Guess

    Still - Top 15
    Crawford - 4th (He's an athlete, and I think some team will think they can lasso it)
    Astorino - Late rounds
    Lynn - I wouldn't want him as a corner, I can tell you that
    Moye - 3rd
    Stephon Green - If he gets invited to the combine...he might sneak in at the end. He could be a pretty versartile weapon.
    Troutman - 5th round
    Stupar - Mid rounds

    I don't see anyone else getting drafted

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  • Itzsessil said...

    JO doesn't have Stills first step though. I don't think he gets past 15.

    Hey now, JO had a heck of a first step his last year here. Still has played a more controlled game than Odrick did his senior year. I remember LJ saying they let JO run free that year, and that was certainly the case. JO was a monster, but he ran himself out of position at times as well (something Still did last year). Still has managed to make a ton of big plays this year despite being disciplined, which says a lot.

    gemrich ●

  • That's what I'm saying he plays gap control and still makes TFL's out the wazoo. He's able to do this by being so quick and reestablishing the los in the backfield. I love me some Odrick, hell he grew up 2 school districts away from me, but I'm really impressed with Still.

    Itzsessil

  • Itzsessil said...

    JO doesn't have Stills first step though. I don't think he gets past 15.

    Still doesn't have Odrick's motor, IMO.

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  • Gotcha

    I think it's more that he possesses Odrick's burst off the ball but has the center of gravity and strength to keep his leverage a bit better than Odrick once he gets his body in front. Odrick was very quick off the ball his last year, constantly trying to beat his man at the snap, but it wasn't under control all the time. He would just fly off the snap and throw his body into whatever gap he was shooting, but he would contort his body in a way that basically eliminated any leverage he might have. I think he was just as quick as Still off the ball, but less controlled and certainly not quite as strong at the point of attack.

    Ahhh, finally talking football again.

    This post was edited by gemrich on 11/17/2011 at 11:47 PM

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  • Still is the ONLY one that I will say will be a sure fire drafted player.

    Alot of people are saying Troutman maybe, and some Crawford, or even Astorino. I seriously seriously seriously doubt any of those three will be drafted.

    Moye has a chance only because of size and speed. He can't get off the line against physical DBs. That will be noticeable. Lynn has a chance. Outside of that, I seriously doubt.

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  • gemrich said...

    Ahhh, finally talking football again.

    Yes!!!!

    Still: top 15 pick if he keeps up his play

    Moye: 4-6

    Lynn: 3-Undrafted

    Stupar: 6-7

    Everyone else has a good chance of earning a tryout as an undrafted free agent.

    PureRockFury

  • Still is definitely a 1st round pick. Barring an injury, he could easily go in the top half of the 1st round. Lynn and Moye will likely be drafted late, IMO. Lynn has un-canny size for a CB that NFL scouts will drool over to counter those massive WRs he will go against. Moye, is one of those WR that has great height but definitely needs to pack some pounds on.

    Stupar may get drafted late but most likely will be a UFA. Same goes for Sukay. None of our OL will get drafted, IMO.

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