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What's the best craft beer you've ever had?

  • When in MD I picked up three bottles of DuClaw Colossus which weighs in at 22%. While I did get one for myself, the others are for beer exchanges. In the summertime I cannot seem to find the right time for a beer this big. The good thing is they generally age well.

    Loving Sixpoint Apollo while grilling this summer.

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  • I recently tried expresso oak aged yeti imperial stout from a cask. Not much coffee taste which was fine by me but that might have been because it was sitting in a cask for a couple months. Def worth the $3 I paid for a pint but I think it is quite a bit more expensive to get a 6 pack. Not sure what alcohol percent but it certainly wasn't a bud light.

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  • PSU2001 said...

    I live in Pittsburgh, but have never been to this place just over the state line in Boardman, OH.

    http://vewinebeer.com/

    Supposed to be the best retailer in the country. Does anyone have any reviews/visits they wish to share? It looks like it would be worth taking a drive for. TIA.

    Yea I've been there a few times. Pretty cool place. Staff is friendly. Pretty nice selection. Nice draft list. Sometimes some good prices on *glass*, if you're into that sort of thing. Prices are all cheaper than what you'll find in PA... but that's almost purely a function of them being taxed less. Which, by the way, is why it is technically illegal to buy beer/wine at VE and then transport back over the state line into PA. They also have a half-decent scotch list, if you're into single malts.

    If I lived within 10 minutes of that place, I'd be a "regular". As it is, I make a trip out a couple times a year. Cool spot. Perhaps a bit over-hyped at this point, but worth a detour if you ever find yourself anywhere near the area.

    There's a pretty nice bottle shop out in New Kensington that might be a bit closer to you... I know, i know, when you think craft beer, "New Kensington" doesn't spring to mind, but just take my word for it and check it out. Nice draft list (fully-automated, online, you see on the website what the patrons are seeing on the screen in the bar) and some pretty cool/rare stuff. Up over 1200 bottles at one point... Goes by the name "House of 1000 Beers" these days, but I still call it "6-and-Save", cause I think the new name is corny.

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    As for the OP, great question, hard question, but I'll take my best shot at it with the following:
    Fav American Pale: Oskar Blues Dale's Pale Ale
    Fav American IPA: Fathead's Headhunter
    Fav American DBL IPA: 3 Floyd's Dreadnaught
    Fav. American Wheat Beer: 3 Floyd's Gumballhead

    Fav Red Ale: Troeg's Nugget Nectar
    Fav Barleywine: Troeg's Flying Mouflon

    Fav Classic American Stout: Sierra Nevada Stout
    Fav Imperial Stout: Dogfish Head World Wide Stout
    Fav Sweet Stout: Bell's Special Double Cream Stout
    Fav Porter: Willoughby's Peanut Butter Cup Coffee Porter

    Fav Fruit Beer: Kasteel Rouge
    Fav Quad: Ommegang 3 Philosophers
    Fav Triple: St. Bernardus Watou Tripel
    Fav Dubbel: Westmalle Dubbel
    Fav Belgian Pale: Bruery Mischief
    Fav Belgian Dark: Rochefort 6
    Fav Sour: Cantillon Rose De Gambrinus

    Fav "Big Brewery" beer made with adjuncts: Yuengling Black & Tan
    Fav Mass Produced Beer without adjuncts: Guinness
    Fav American Light Macro: Bud Light Lime

    Fav Pumpkin: Epic Brewing Fermentation Without Representation
    Fav XMas Beer: St. Bernardus Christmas

    Fav Beer from PA: Troeg's Perpetual IPA
    Fav Beer from Pittsburgh: Draai Laag Aureus
    Fav Beer from Cali: Stone Ruination
    Fav Beer from Belgium: Kasteel Rouge

    Toughest Category to pick a favorite: Probably IPA/Imp. IPA. Maybe Belgian Quad. And I love Christmas Beers too. A lot of great ones made, particularly over in Belgium.

    Favorite overall beer: Fathead's Headhunter. Probably. But if you put a Ruination, Dreadnaught, Double Jack, or Deviant Dale's in front of me, I'd probably change my tune.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by psuKinger on 6/26/2012 at 9:57 AM

    psuKinger

  • Thanks to this thread I found some ...
    great lakes - edmund Fitzgerald
    I love it! Any other ideas in the state of MI?

    IceCold

  • psuKinger said...

    Yea I've been there a few times. Pretty cool place. Staff is friendly. Pretty nice selection. Nice draft list. Sometimes some good prices on *glass*, if you're into that sort of thing. Prices are all cheaper than what you'll find in PA... but that's almost purely a function of them being taxed less. Which, by the way, is why it is technically illegal to buy beer/wine at VE and then transport back over the state line into PA. They also have a half-decent scotch list, if you're into single malts.

    If I lived within 10 minutes of that place, I'd be a "regular". As it is, I make a trip out a couple times a year. Cool spot. Perhaps a bit over-hyped at this point, but with a detour if you ever find yourself anywhere near the area.

    There's a pretty nice bottle shop out in New Kensington that might be a bit closer to you... I know, when you think craft beer, "New Kensington" doesn't spring to mind, but just take my word for it and check it out. Nice draft list (fully-automated, online, you see on the website what the patrons are seeing on the screen in the bar) and some pretty cool/rare stuff. Up over 1200 bottles at one point... Goes by the name "House of 1000 Beers" these days, but I still call it "6-and-Save", cause I think the new name is corny.

    As for the OP, great question, hard question, but I'll take my best shot at it with the following: Fav American Pale: Oskar Blues Dale's Pale Ale Fav American IPA: Fathead's Headhunter Fav American DBL IPA: 3 Floyd's Dreadnaught Fav. American Wheat Beer: 3 Floyd's Gumballhead

    Fav Red Ale: Troeg's Nugget Nectar Fav Barleywine: Troeg's Flying Mouflon

    Fav Classic American Stout: Sierra Nevada Stout Fav Imperial Stout: Dogfish Head World Wide Stout Fav Sweet Stout: Bell's Special Double Cream Stout Fav Porter: Willoughby's Peanut Butter Cup Coffee Porter

    Fav Fruit Beer: Kasteel Rouge Fav Quad: Ommegang 3 Philosophers Fav Dubbel: Westmalle Dubbel Fav Belgian Pale: Bruery Mischief Fav Belgian Dark: Rochefort 6 Fav Sour: Cantillon Rose De Gambrinus

    Fav "Big Brewery" beer made with adjuncts: Yuengling Black & Tan Fav Mass Produced Beer without adjuncts: Guinness Fav American Light Macro: Bud Light Lime

    Fav Pumpkin: Epic Brewing Fermentation Without Representation Fav XMas Beer: St. Bernardus Christmas

    Fav Beer from PA: Troeg's Perpetual IPA Fav Beer from Pittsburgh: Draai Laag Aureus Fav Beer from Cali: Stone Ruination Fav Beer from Belgium: Kasteel Rouge

    Toughest Category to pick a favorite: Probably IPA/Imp. IPA. Maybe Belgian Quad. And I love Christmas Beers too. A lot of great ones made, particularly over in Belgium.

    Favorite overall beer: Fathead's Headhunter. Probably. But if you put a Ruination, Dreadnaught, Double Jack, or Deviant Dale's in front of me, I'd probably change my tune.

    I kind of want to give you a hard time about including Bud Light Lime on that list, but good god man, I can't do it after you put together such a comprehensively awesome beer list.

    gemrich

  • gemrich said...

    I kind of want to give you a hard time about including Bud Light Lime on that list, but good god man, I can't do it after you put together such a comprehensively awesome beer list.

    I find Bud Light Lime to be rather enjoyable and refreshing when I come in from mowing the lawn on a 90-degree day.

    I like beer in almost all of it's forms.

    My wife also enjoys it... which makes it "accomodating" at times. I actually have a 1/6 of it on draft at my place right now... Now, I also have a 1/6 of Stone IPA, a 1/4 of Bell's Double Cream, and a 1/4 of Bell's Oberon right now... but like I said, I like beer :)

    *cheers*

    psuKinger

  • PSU2001 said...

    I agree - the G.E.'s are doing a good job with their varieties.

    As a side note, I fetched a case of Harpoon's Summer variety last weekend....needless to say that only got me until Monday. There will be one lucky distributor in the area tonight who be selling me 2 or 3 cases of who knows what.

    What's your fav. local brew roughneck? I like the Penn Dark, but am always looking for a different brew try.

    If you like Belgian beer, I cannot emphasize enough that you should check out the offerings of this tiny new brewery in Millvale called "Draai Laag". They only make 3 different beers so far, and they're 2/3 with me. The one is pretty "meh", but I felt like the other two are exceptional.

    The best beer being made in the Burgh, IMO. But I like big, bold beers, and I find a whole lot of what comes out of places like Church, Penn, and even (to a lesser extent) East End to be a little bland and unimaginative.

    Now, if we could just figure out a way to justify that Fathead's is somehow "Pittsburgh Beer", well... that'd change everything :)

    This post was edited by psuKinger on 6/25/2012 at 9:11 PM

    psuKinger

  • IceCold said...

    Thanks to this thread I found some ... great lakes - edmund Fitzgerald I love it! Any other ideas in the state of MI?

    Start w/ Bells and Founders, drink the entire line... If I had to drink beer from one brewery for the rest of my life, it'd be Founders.

    "Penn State has taken a lot of punches in the last six months and it's time to punch back" - BOB

    Ehoffman

  • psuKinger said...

    Favorite overall beer: Fathead's Headhunter. Probably. But if you put a Ruination, Dreadnaught, Double Jack, or Deviant Dale's in front of me, I'd probably change my tune.

    I've heard great things about Headhunter. Would like to try that one sometime..

    "Penn State has taken a lot of punches in the last six months and it's time to punch back" - BOB

    Ehoffman

  • psuKinger said...

    I find Bud Light Lime to be rather enjoyable and refreshing when I come in from mowing the lawn on a 90-degree day.

    I like beer in almost all of it's forms.

    My wife also enjoys it... which makes it "accomodating" at times. I actually have a 1/6 of it on draft at my place right now... Now, I also have a 1/6 of Stone IPA, a 1/4 of Bell's Double Cream, and a 1/4 of Bell's Oberon right now... but like I said, I like beer :)

    *cheers*

    You are not the first serious beer drinker to say they occasionally enjoy a Bud Light Lime, and quite frankly I can't bring myself to even try it, so I can't judge. But I won't give anyone a hard time about drink choices. I'll drink anything, love whiskey in all its glorious forms (and really an good tequila or rum will do as well), love beer (anything good, from dark to light, strong to tame), love wine, love mixed drinks, will drink anything fruity on a beach or a hot day and could care less how "fruity" it looks.

    gemrich

  • IceCold said...

    Thanks to this thread I found some ... great lakes - edmund Fitzgerald I love it! Any other ideas in the state of MI?

    Bell's...

    Two-hearted Ale and Hopslam (when you can get it) are two of my favorites, but haven't tried nearly all of them.

    I also have Oberon at the moment, but I'm not as big of a fan as most people are.

    Edit-Sorry Ehoffman. Didn't notice you already mentioned Bell's

    This post was edited by roughneck on 6/25/2012 at 9:04 PM

    roughneck

  • IceCold said...

    Thanks to this thread I found some ... great lakes - edmund Fitzgerald I love it! Any other ideas in the state of MI?

    I'm gonna echo what another fellow poster said. There are six breweries in this great nation of ours that I consider to be head-and-shoulders above the rest, in terms of variety and quality. How I feel, overall, about their "range" of offerings. Two of them are in Michigan: Founders and Bell's.

    I'd recommend you start with their "year round offerings". Most will be a little more "drinkable" than some of their seasonals (Founder's Breakfast Stout, Founder's Double Trouble, Bell's Hopslam, ect. are GREAT beers, but perhaps not where someone new to craft beer should *start*). Check out Bell's Best Brown, Founder's Porter, if you want to give an IPA a try, Bell's Two Hearted is a great option, IMO. Founder's Centennial IPA and Bell's Pale Ale are also solid options. Bell's Oberon is a very popular summer wheat beer that has just a touch of *hops* to it when it's fresh.

    psuKinger

  • psuKinger said...

    I'm gonna echo what another fellow poster said. There are six breweries in this great nation of ours that I consider to be head-and-shoulders above the rest, in terms of variety and quality. How I feel, overall, about their "range" of offerings. Two of them are in Michigan: Founders and Bell's.

    I'd recommend you start with their "year round offerings". Most will be a little more "drinkable" than some of their seasonals (Founder's Breakfast Stout, Founder's Double Trouble, Bell's Hopslam, ect. are GREAT beers, but perhaps not where someone new to craft beer should *start*). Check out Bell's Best Brown, Founder's Porter, if you want to give an IPA a try, Bell's Two Hearted is a great option, IMO. Founder's Centennial IPA and Bell's Pale Ale are also solid options. Bell's Oberon is a very popular summer wheat beer that has just a touch of *hops* to it when it's fresh.

    I liked Bell's Oberon but preferred their Oarsman Ale.

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  • Best advice I received when I started drinking craft beer was to pay attention to freshness dating. Especially when you drink hoppy beers--not meant to be aged. Bell's and Founders both print bottling dates on the label (Bell's) or bottle neck (Founders). If it's an IPA of questionable freshness and no bottling date, I'm not buying--been burned several times.

    "Penn State has taken a lot of punches in the last six months and it's time to punch back" - BOB

    Ehoffman

  • Ehoffman said...

    I've heard great things about Headhunter. Would like to try that one sometime..

    If you like "West Coast IPA" (Ruination, WCIPA, Racer 5, Double Jack, ect), you'll like it. If you love those beers, as I do, you'll love it.

    "American IPA" is the most competitive category at GABF. I think last year they had 179 entries. Headhunter came home with the Bronze. 3rd place. Out of 179. Pretty sure it brought home Silver in 2010. They've got a pretty long list of awards (from pretty heavy-hitters in the "beer awards" world, like GABF) they've brought home with Headhunter at this point.

    They do a real good Stout ("Voodoo Monkey") and a great Imperial IPA ("Hop JuJu") as well.

    They just bought Troeg's old 25 bbl system, so capacity has dramatically increased and production is soon to follow. Hopefully it's availability, both in Pittsburgh and beyond, increases as a result. In theory, it should eventually be as available as Troeg's has been for the last x number of years, since they're now using Troeg's old equipment...

    psuKinger

  • Ehoffman said...

    Best advice I received when I started drinking craft beer was to pay attention to freshness dating. Especially when you drink hoppy beers--not meant to be aged. Bell's and Founders both print bottling dates on the label (Bell's) or bottle neck (Founders). If it's an IPA of questionable freshness and no bottling date, I'm not buying--been burned several times.

    Agreed completely. "Fresh Beer Only" + Smart Phone changed my bottle shop experience forever.

    https://sites.google.com/site/freshbeeronly/

    psuKinger

  • psuKinger said...

    Agreed completely. "Fresh Beer Only" + Smart Phone changed my bottle shop experience forever.

    https://sites.google.com/site/freshbeeronly/

    Yep, I never close that window on my phone browser. Not a fan of those that still do julian calendar dating, bought a 1+ year old 6 of Little Sumpin Sumpin last week. Going by julian, it would have been 1-1.5 mos. old, drinking it, it's not that fresh. I should have known better because it was an out of the way bottle shop that still had Founders Breakfast available.

    "Penn State has taken a lot of punches in the last six months and it's time to punch back" - BOB

    Ehoffman

  • psuKinger said...

    If you like Belgian beer, I cannot emphasize enough that you should check out the offerings of this tiny new brewery in Millvale called "Draai Laag". They only make 3 different beers so far, and they're 2/3 with me. The one is pretty "meh", but I felt like the other two are exceptional.

    The best beer being made in the Burgh, IMO. But I like big, bold beers, and I find a whole lot of what comes out of places like Church, Penn, and even (to a lesser extent) East End to be a little bland and unimaginative.

    Now, if we could just figure out a way to justify that Fathead's is somehow "Pittsburgh Beer", well... that'd change everything :)

    Kinger - where exactly in Millvale is Draai Laag? I live in Ross Twp so I know the area well.

    PSU2001

  • PSU2001 said...

    Kinger - where exactly in Millvale is Draai Laag? I live in Ross Twp so I know the area well.

    Supposedly it's right on East Ohio State, in between the on-ramp and off-ramp to 28.

    I say "supposedly" because although both Google Maps and my Garmin indicate that it's there, I was down there about a month ago and decided to try to find it, and although I had my GPS with me I went past there 2-3 times and could not see any signs anywhere.

    They're only "open to the public" 6 hours a month. I believe every other Friday they open their doors for 3 hours in the evening. Obviously, I haven't made it to that yet, but I believe they fill Growlers. Not sure if they sell beer by the pint or not. They may not have that license yet. I know it took Full Pint several months before they were allowed to sell you a pint.

    I know you can get a bottle of it at Sidelines in Millvale... they'll charge you like $5 or $6, though. Even though growlers are generally overpriced, you'll likely do better than $0.50 an ounce with a growler. I've seen it at various bottle shops, too. But the one I frequent the most, in New Kensington, has trouble keeping it on the shelves.

    psuKinger

  • psuKinger said...

    Supposedly it's right on East Ohio State, in between the on-ramp and off-ramp to 28.

    I say "supposedly" because although both Google Maps and my Garmin indicate that it's there, I was down there about a month ago and decided to try to find it, and although I had my GPS with me I went past there 2-3 times and could not see any signs anywhere.

    They're only "open to the public" 6 hours a month. I believe every other Friday they open their doors for 3 hours in the evening. Obviously, I haven't made it to that yet, but I believe they fill Growlers. Not sure if they sell beer by the pint or not. They may not have that license yet. I know it took Full Pint several months before they were allowed to sell you a pint.

    I know you can get a bottle of it at Sidelines in Millvale... they'll charge you like $5 or $6, though. Even though growlers are generally overpriced, you'll likely do better than $0.50 an ounce with a growler. I've seen it at various bottle shops, too. But the one I frequent the most, in New Kensington, has trouble keeping it on the shelves.

    Thanks kinger.

    I might as well make the trip an all-around fun event and grab some of the great wings at Sidelines well I'm over that way.

    This post was edited by PSU2001 on 6/26/2012 at 12:40 PM

    PSU2001

  • psuKinger said...

    I'm gonna echo what another fellow poster said. There are six breweries in this great nation of ours that I consider to be head-and-shoulders above the rest, in terms of variety and quality. How I feel, overall, about their "range" of offerings. Two of them are in Michigan: Founders and Bell's.

    I'd recommend you start with their "year round offerings". Most will be a little more "drinkable" than some of their seasonals (Founder's Breakfast Stout, Founder's Double Trouble, Bell's Hopslam, ect. are GREAT beers, but perhaps not where someone new to craft beer should *start*). Check out Bell's Best Brown, Founder's Porter, if you want to give an IPA a try, Bell's Two Hearted is a great option, IMO. Founder's Centennial IPA and Bell's Pale Ale are also solid options. Bell's Oberon is a very popular summer wheat beer that has just a touch of *hops* to it when it's fresh.

    Beer as with so many things being subjective... I am going to say that there are many more than 6 breweries that are topnotch when it comes to variety and quality. Even though I love Bell's they struggled with consistency and had issues with freshness not too many years ago while they were becoming a national power in Craft beer. There may be 6 national powers that really turn out a quality product with out compromising creativity and are still large enough to distribute from coast to coast (If that is what you meant then I whole-heartedly agree), but some of the appeal to me is the differences in particular regional brewing and how the different cultures in different areas affect the choices made in the brew kettle. On this note... I love NE, Midwestern, Oregon, and Colorado brewers, but if you have never been to San Diego/Southern California you are missing out. There are at least 10 breweries (and that is very conservative) that make as good a beer as anyone else in the country. I'm not even some huge hophead, but to me this area is and has been for some time making the best beer in the world.

    VinegarBased63624

  • psuKinger said...

    I'm gonna echo what another fellow poster said. There are six breweries in this great nation of ours that I consider to be head-and-shoulders above the rest, in terms of variety and quality. How I feel, overall, about their "range" of offerings. Two of them are in Michigan: Founders and Bell's.

    I dunno about head and shoulders, but I'd like to give some love to Goose Island in Chicago (#10)

    http://www.ratebeer.com/RateBeerBest/bestbrewers_012011.asp

    The best one I had while there is the Nightstalker Stout. (http://www.gooseisland.com/pages/night_stalker/94.php) Abosultely amazing brew. Next time I need to try one of the beer in the Bourbon-barrel aged line. I hear they are even better.

    PSGrue

  • Kinger do you know the distribution for Fatheads? I don't make it down to the Burgh much and was hoping they would expand.

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  • Vinegar-Based said...

    Beer as with so many things being subjective... I am going to say that there are many more than 6 breweries that are topnotch when it comes to variety and quality. Even though I love Bell's they struggled with consistency and had issues with freshness not too many years ago while they were becoming a national power in Craft beer. There may be 6 national powers that really turn out a quality product with out compromising creativity and are still large enough to distribute from coast to coast (If that is what you meant then I whole-heartedly agree), but some of the appeal to me is the differences in particular regional brewing and how the different cultures in different areas affect the choices made in the brew kettle. On this note... I love NE, Midwestern, Oregon, and Colorado brewers, but if you have never been to San Diego/Southern California you are missing out. There are at least 10 breweries (and that is very conservative) that make as good a beer as anyone else in the country. I'm not even some huge hophead, but to me this area is and has been for some time making the best beer in the world.

    I meant to indicate that I, myself, have 6 breweries that I would put in a "Top Tier" by themselves. My 6 personal favorites based on my personal preferences and my own criteria are the only basis for that. Anyone is welcome to disagree. I was merely trying to emphasize that, IMO, he has two GREAT breweries right in state that he has an opportunity to get acquainted with.

    psuKinger

  • Sean Fitz said...

    Kinger do you know the distribution for Fatheads? I don't make it down to the Burgh much and was hoping they would expand.

    Fitz,

    I'm probably not up to date as much as Kinger, but I'll give it a shot. The Fatheads in Cleveland is where the brewery is currently located. On occasion a few kegs will be sent to Pittsburgh but it's short-lived.

    As far as distribution goes, I'll see if Kinger can tackle that one.

    PSU2001