The Lions' Pride

For the hand of God to come down and take Joe.

I always heard that God was a PSU fan, clearly he isn't.

FTR, I do not wish death upon Joe.

I would like to see a large protest before every home game and even some protesting in front of Joe's house.

I would have to think Curley and Spanier are working on lettingJoePa building them a case...bad loss at home to Bama, barely beat an inferior Temple, not on sideline for games, Smith taking coach out in practice and it isn't just a bump/bruise, slow decline in home crowds b/c of the on field product, disarray of team when on field with play calling etc, negative media perspective outside of State College, unhappy coaching staff, inferior bowl games, and you could go on and on.

Sorry I love JoePa and what he has done in past and present for PSU....but no 80 year old in the USA should be in charge of a business this major that makes so much money....university especially other PSU sports depend on the cash. Major reason i say this b/c JoePa isn't on sideline at all times for practice and games and he isn't travel for recruiting and or booster appearances that are required of 99.5% of other coaches around the USA....alll Fortune 500 companies would of kicked his ass to the curb 10 years ago. Yesterday's game just provided how out of control this program is...

This is such a tired topic and its only repeated because no one likes the answer. Write this down and memorize it...Joe will never ever ever ever be forced out for any reason other a major NCAA infraction. Competitiveness is not an issue. Finances are an issue, but we are far from crisis mode there. Joe will leave under one of three circumstances:
1. He chooses to step aside or agrees to a transitional plan (highly unlikely)
2. He becomes physically unable to coach due to severe illness (more likely)
3. He dies (most likely)

Contracts and Ws don't mean very much. Spanier doesn't care about Ws and until $$$ dries up a lot more than it has, he's not going to stick his neck out as the guy who forced Joe Paterno out. As for the rest of those who are involved in the decision (Curley, BOT), half of them wouldn't be there without Joe. Joe outranks everyone, so titles mean nothing. The man has all the power, so we will continue to be held hostage until God steps in. Just deal with it.

Remember Tim was Joe's paperboy and he got him that job, so Curley ain't doing squat. The $$ isn't going to dry up because even during the dark years it took a few bad seasons in a row for people to really protest.

I've grown to accept Joe will be the HC until he dies or guarantees a succession plan where Jay is the HC. It's fine.

For the record: I didn't see this weeks game and I'll be AWOL for next weeks and for the first time in a long time, I'm not even disappointed that I'll miss the game(s).

If JayPa becomes the next HC, I'm pretty sure the heads of >50% of the PSU fanbase would explode (including my own).

Guess the "..."s werent explicit enough. If Joe promotes Jay to full OC if he succeeds great if he doesn't, answers the question unequivocally and enables a clean house transition in the future.

I've been preaching this for the last 2 years... He can still be around the program, but give the HC gig to someone that will hold his staff accountable and will actually COACH and RECRUIT. Joe is a great man, and has touched many young people's lives... But he needs to not be the head coach anymore... Plain and simple. Ambassador/Consultant/Athletic Advisor... Something else. Anything else...

tiddy,

there's a 4 if you ask me - and I'm surprised you didn't mention it...

4: 2-3 members of the staff leave. In all likelihood this would be a domino and the staff would never exist under Joe with new pieces. If say... LJ, Tom Bradley and Mike McQ where to leave. There's no way that sufficient new coaches would come in and work under Joe knowing how tenous the situation is and how backward they'd have to coach.

This to me is THE MOST MOST likely option out of the 4 scenarios. I think that this staff is holding on via a thread. They know time is ticking down and they are not the next guy in waiting and they want to keep coaching. Lots of reasons (loyalty - pay a year more than the year Joe does leave, etc) to stay at PSU, but.. Tom Bradley and LJ are the keys to me. Those guys are HC potential with great AC records. I hope/pray they both leave after this year and it ends it all. I hope they release poor Mike McQ from his torturous sideline days (though he's a local and may never want to leave State College (IDK).

I think that if LJ would go with Zook or take off to do something in church and TB would go take a HC job somewhere (clearly he's willing to go to just about anywhere now). That'd do it. That's what those of us who want Joe out have to hope for.

Do you think Joe would really replace 2 plus key assistants and keep ticking Tiddy?

Sue is in excellent health and is 15 years younger than Joe. It's an unlikely scenario. Even if something did happen to Sue, they'd work out an agreement for Joe to show up for games, and the staff would run things during the week.

We will get a new coach when our current one decides to retire. We are not Florida State, we will not screw over the man who built our program.

Paterno has earned the right to coach as long as he wants to, and frankly, I don't understand why anyone has an issue with that.

So you're fine with mediocrity? That's great!

Glad to see you have zero expectations and will let Joe run the program into the ground because of some great teams decades ago.

The '94 team was 17 years ago. You now have kids in college that don't even remember watching Kerry Collins.....They know more about Mills and Morelli than people like Kerry and Blackledge

Supposedly, there's a university policy prohibiting Jay from reporting directly to Joe, hence the need for Galen as a buffer. Not sure if that is true. Jay is obviously running more of the show, but I don't think Joe is afraid of negative PR by naming him OC. He just might not be allowed to do it.