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  • Texas Lion said...

    Ault retired? Didn't know that.

    That's too bad though, really was one of the best coaches in CFB.

    Hired Brian Polian from TAMU. It was kind of a random retirement.

    Lion_in_CBus

  • Lion_in_CBus said...

    Hired Brian Polian from TAMU. It was kind of a random retirement.

    They hired a TE coach/ ST coordinator? blank

    Maybe Ault got tired? He has been around the game for a long time, it wouldn't be surprising. I would be surprised, however, if he was pushed to retire by the school. He's the best coach to ever grace their school, and is definitely a better option than a guy like Polian, JMO.

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  • Well, this isn't the first time he retired. He was the AD for a good period of time in the 90s. Maybe, he wants to go back to admin now that the school has gotten the publicity from Kap?

    The guy bleeds blue and gray. I guess he refused to call it a red zone offense - he uses blue zone because UNLV is red and they are arch rivals. Nothing in any of their facilities have red in it.

    From what I gather on Polian, (I said the same thing at first), the guy is an elite recruiter. He was one of the guys that pulled a lot of guys to Notre Dame for Weiss (including flipping Te'O at zero hour). He also did a very good job at Stanford for the last two classes and TAMU this season. With his dad being Bill and the coaches he has worked under....its a great pedigree.

    It also looks like he is keeping Nick Rolvich (former Hawaii QB) as OC. Rovlich was very highly regarded by Ault...almost to the point that his first season (last year; he wasn't retained after Chow got hired at Hawaii) he was going to be given play calling (something that has never occurred in Ault's career).

    I think I know way too much about Nevada football (but I am an Air Raid/Pistol nerd).

    This post was edited by Lion_in_CBus on 2/25/2013 at 12:42 PM

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  • Lion_in_CBus said...

    Well, this isn't the first time he retired. He was the AD for a good period of time in the 90s. Maybe, he wants to go back to admin now that the school has gotten the publicity from Kap?

    The guy bleeds blue and gray. I guess he refused to call it a red zone offense - he uses blue zone because UNLV is red and they are arch rivals. Nothing in any of their facilities have red in it.

    From what I gather on Polian, (I said the same thing at first), the guy is an elite recruiter. He was one of the guys that pulled a lot of guys to Notre Dame for Weiss (including flipping Te'O at zero hour). He also did a very good job at Stanford for the last two classes and TAMU this season. With his dad being Bill and the coaches he has worked under....its a great pedigree.

    It also looks like he is keeping Nick Rolvich (former Hawaii QB) as OC. Rovlich was very highly regarded by Ault...almost to the point that his first season (last year; he wasn't retained after Chow got hired at Hawaii) he was going to be given play calling (something that has never occurred in Ault's career).

    I think I know way too much about Nevada football (but I am an Air Raid/Pistol nerd).

    Haha, don't be ashamed. Nevada has been one of the better kept secrets in CFB for nearly a decade.

    I'm not a fan of hiring a great recruiter as a HC, unless of course you surround him with great coordinators. At Nevada, the chances of having a great staff aren't all that high, but maybe if he gives both coordinators quite a bit of creative freedom and let them do their thing on game day he can attract some good ones?

    Sounds promising on the OC. Ault knew his football, I'd trust him completely.

    Awesome about the no red in the facilities. Ault is the man.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    Haha, don't be ashamed. Nevada has been one of the better kept secrets in CFB for nearly a decade.

    I'm not a fan of hiring a great recruiter as a HC, unless of course you surround him with great coordinators. At Nevada, the chances of having a great staff aren't all that high, but maybe if he gives both coordinators quite a bit of creative freedom and let them do their thing on game day he can attract some good ones?

    Sounds promising on the OC. Ault knew his football, I'd trust him completely.

    Awesome about the no red in the facilities. Ault is the man.

    JMO, Rolovich is going to be the next big name OC so one of those positions is locked down. He is only 33. At 31, he was the play caller for the 4th best offense in the country at Hawaii. The next year they fell to 31, but lost some major talent. He almost took the Temple job, I think he wanted play calling duties. However, another top 10 offensive finish and I bet he gets a BCS quality offer for the OC.

    The thing I enjoy most about him, is that last year...the team went more vertical and started challenging people downfield. Their beat writers credit Rolovich with that twist to the pistol. JMO, I think the failure of looking vertically has hurt the pistol system transition to the BCS-conference level.

    However, I agree with you completely. I think guys like Urban Meyer (WR coach before the BG) need a strong veteran aly. If I was Nevada, I would bring in a veteran DC with HC experience (similar to what Roof was for Ob).

    Lion_in_CBus

  • Lion_in_CBus said...

    JMO, Rolovich is going to be the next big name OC so one of those positions is locked down. He is only 33. At 31, he was the play caller for the 4th best offense in the country at Hawaii. The next year they fell to 31, but lost some major talent. He almost took the Temple job, I think he wanted play calling duties. However, another top 10 offensive finish and I bet he gets a BCS quality offer for the OC.

    The thing I enjoy most about him, is that last year...the team went more vertical and started challenging people downfield. Their beat writers credit Rolovich with that twist to the pistol. JMO, I think the failure of looking vertically has hurt the pistol system transition to the BCS-conference level.

    However, I agree with you completely. I think guys like Urban Meyer (WR coach before the BG) need a strong veteran aly. If I was Nevada, I would bring in a veteran DC with HC experience (similar to what Roof was for Ob).

    Well he'll get his chance. A former ST coach most likely won't be spending too much time with offensive play calling duties.

    I always imagined the Pistol as more of a quick-hitter type offense, where you work the play action and slant routes all day long, then occasionally take a shot downfield to keep the defense honest. Ault might have been reluctant to do it based on the talent he had at WR though. He most likely didn't have many deep threats in his time as HC.

    Nevada isn't exactly a sexy program to sell to somebody. They'll probably have to go for a guy who is in between jobs at the moment, who would want to spend a year calling plays to redeem themselves for something. I wonder who they'll pick.

    If you don't mind, if you're keeping up with the staff changes, would you let me know who they end up going with?

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  • Texas Lion said...

    I always imagined the Pistol as more of a quick-hitter type offense, where you work the play action and slant routes all day long, then occasionally take a shot downfield to keep the defense honest. Ault might have been reluctant to do it based on the talent he had at WR though. He most likely didn't have many deep threats in his time as HC.

    If you don't mind, if you're keeping up with the staff changes, would you let me know who they end up going with?

    The answer is Scottie Hazelton, he was the LB coach at USCw last year. Former DC at North Dakota State. The veteran guy is Mike Bradeson on the defensive staff. He is a long time coach at UNLV and for the wolfpack. The rest of the staff are kinda up and commers....one guy that will younger coach DL worked with the Colts under Gundy and Polian's dad and a DB coach that worked with Midget at Georgia State.

    Yeah, I like Rolovich's tweak because so many of the runs are to the interior and they do it so well...if you have the speed outside, a guy with a good arm can get a little extra time in the pocket because the DEs are worried about run. Honestly, I think its the winkle needed to keep the pistol growing in polarity.

    Plus, I love a package that Rolovich put in using their pistol twins package. The play series ended up with a 40 yard TD pass with noone in 10 yards of the WR. The progression went off of their read option series. After a couple successful up the gut runs, they started losening them up with some read option. After the read option started sucking the safeties in, they ran a bubble screen to their slot guy off a read option PA. After that burnt Zona a couple times, they faked the Read option and the outside WR was about 25 yards downfield and wide open. Kid walked into the endzone.

    Lion_in_CBus

  • I used to watch a lot of CFB, now I just focus on PSU and the rest of the B1G. I also used to be a lot less busy. Grad school robbed me of my ability to spend all of Saturday watching football.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • Lion_in_CBus said...

    The answer is Scottie Hazelton, he was the LB coach at USCw last year. Former DC at North Dakota State. The veteran guy is Mike Bradeson on the defensive staff. He is a long time coach at UNLV and for the wolfpack. The rest of the staff are kinda up and commers....one guy that will younger coach DL worked with the Colts under Gundy and Polian's dad and a DB coach that worked with Midget at Georgia State.

    Yeah, I like Rolovich's tweak because so many of the runs are to the interior and they do it so well...if you have the speed outside, a guy with a good arm can get a little extra time in the pocket because the DEs are worried about run. Honestly, I think its the winkle needed to keep the pistol growing in polarity.

    Plus, I love a package that Rolovich put in using their pistol twins package. The play series ended up with a 40 yard TD pass with noone in 10 yards of the WR. The progression went off of their read option series. After a couple successful up the gut runs, they started losening them up with some read option. After the read option started sucking the safeties in, they ran a bubble screen to their slot guy off a read option PA. After that burnt Zona a couple times, they faked the Read option and the outside WR was about 25 yards downfield and wide open. Kid walked into the endzone.

    I'm in love with the read option. If run properly it opens up SO many facets of the offensive game. It slows down the DE, makes them have to decide (which can chip away at their confidence if they don't guess correctly) who's a higher priority to cover, and makes the LB slow down in his drop and/or his blitz because if he goes after the wrong guy its at least a 5 yard gain.

    Like you said, once it sucks the safeties in to help in run support, HUGE gains become a more likely possibility.

    I actually remember that play. Man that was a fun game to watch. Two offensive geniuses going back and forth.

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  • leftcoastlion said...

    I used to watch a lot of CFB, now I just focus on PSU and the rest of the B1G. I also used to be a lot less busy. Grad school robbed me of my ability to spend all of Saturday watching football.

    One of the things in the back of my mind in terms of wanting to go to law school or not. Its immature and petty and shallow, but I love me my CFB Saturdays...

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  • leftcoastlion said...

    I used to watch a lot of CFB, now I just focus on PSU and the rest of the B1G. I also used to be a lot less busy. Grad school robbed me of my ability to spend all of Saturday watching football.

    Was the exact opposite for me. Once I got into grad school I had so much more time, especially on Saturdays.

    MTayl72

  • leftcoastlion said...

    I used to watch a lot of CFB, now I just focus on PSU and the rest of the B1G. I also used to be a lot less busy. Grad school robbed me of my ability to spend all of Saturday watching football.

    What are you studying or did you study in grad school? I'm in grad school now (all online through PSU World Campus). While I have season tix to PSU games, I definitely spend the remainder of my Saturday when I get home from a home game watching college football. I force myself to get my homework done before the weekend so I can enjoy the weekends as much as possible, especially in the fall.

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  • MTayl72 said...

    Was the exact opposite for me. Once I got into grad school I had so much more time, especially on Saturdays.

    Wait, did you play college football?

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    This post was edited by Texas Lion on 2/26/2013 at 1:15 PM

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  • Texas Lion said...

    Wait, did you play college football?

    That definitely had something to do with it. But even my undergrad I had a ton of shit to do, in grad school I felt like I had fewer and bigger projects. Plus my work

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  • Really?

    I've never heard of somebody having more time in grad school than undergrad. Everybody I've spoken to about grad school tells me horror stories and that its a nightmare. I'm not sure if they're trying to help me by doing that, but the overall impression I've gotten from speaking to those in grad school isn't at all favorable.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    Really?

    I've never heard of somebody having more time in grad school than undergrad. Everybody I've spoken to about grad school tells me horror stories and that its a nightmare. I'm not sure if they're trying to help me by doing that, but the overall impression I've gotten from speaking to those in grad school isn't at all favorable.

    I'm not saying its easy. But I'm also one of those people who has never had to study anything. I had a lot of projects, and working for the state got me a ton of access to good data. But at the same time football for me was 40 hours a week (easy) plus classes and then games and rehab on weekends. I just had a ton of time open up.

    MTayl72

  • Texas Lion said...

    Really?

    I've never heard of somebody having more time in grad school than undergrad. Everybody I've spoken to about grad school tells me horror stories and that its a nightmare. I'm not sure if they're trying to help me by doing that, but the overall impression I've gotten from speaking to those in grad school isn't at all favorable.

    It depends, I did a professional masters degree in Public Affairs and it was more like MTayl described. The class would either be big projects or a series of small project. They also knew that they didn't need to slam you with work. However, I have heard horror stories about law school from my friends.

    I also had a lot more commitments in college than Grad School (part-time job, a club sport, drinking, social activities). So during grad school, I even had enough time to handle multiple internships and watch football on Saturdays.

    This post was edited by Lion_in_CBus on 2/26/2013 at 1:30 PM

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  • MTayl72 said...

    I'm not saying its easy. But I'm also one of those people who has never had to study anything. I had a lot of projects, and working for the state got me a ton of access to good data. But at the same time football for me was 40 hours a week (easy) plus classes and then games and rehab on weekends. I just had a ton of time open up.

    I'm trying out this whole studying thing this year, and it kinda sucks. I don't watch film much at all anymore and I don't study X's and O's like I used to.

    Law school is still plan A, but if that doesn't work out the silver lining of the very dark cloud is that I'll be able to watch film again.

    By the way, I'll be spending my victory lap semester in DC interning on the Hill. I'm pretty excited.

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  • Lion_in_CBus said...

    It depends, I did a professional masters degree in Public Affairs and it was more like MTayl described. The class would either be big projects or a series of small project. They also knew that they didn't need to slam you with work. However, I have heard horror stories about law school from my friends.

    I also had a lot more commitments in college than Grad School (part-time job, a club sport, drinking, social activities). So during grad school, I even had enough time to handle multiple internships and watch football on Saturdays.

    From what I've heard it goes like this.

    1Ls: "Its the worst experience ever, there's no way I'm going to get a grade higher than a D. Its awful. panic"
    2Ls: "Its pretty interesting, but I'm in the library from 8:30-9 or 10 pm. I'm still behind though- I'll have to pull an all nighter on Thursday or Friday."
    3Ls: "Good God, just let it end. I'm so effing bored."

    I've put my liver through the ringer so far this year. It will probably be good for me to cut down on my drinking in law school, if I get in somewhere.

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  • I watch Penn State, Penn State's opponents, and some traditional rivals. I don't watch ND because i don't want to add to their ratings... sometimes i like to turn on lower division games just to watch those kids gut their hearts out.

    "We want the warriors"

    jimh74

  • MTayl72 said...

    Was the exact opposite for me. Once I got into grad school I had so much more time, especially on Saturdays.

    I worked hard as an undergrad, but I've been working incredibly hard for grad school. I'm working on several publications on hydraulic fracturing right now, getting ready for a number of conference presentations around the country, and taking a full load of classes while helping teach a class and preparing for an internship to start in April. Next fall I'll have to start applying for PhD programs around the country which will eat up even more time. Crap never ends.

    But I ALWAYS find time on Saturday afternoon and evening for PSU.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • Lion_in_CBus said...

    It depends, I did a professional masters degree in Public Affairs and it was more like MTayl described. The class would either be big projects or a series of small project. They also knew that they didn't need to slam you with work. However, I have heard horror stories about law school from my friends.

    I also had a lot more commitments in college than Grad School (part-time job, a club sport, drinking, social activities). So during grad school, I even had enough time to handle multiple internships and watch football on Saturdays.

    It depends on whether or not you want to get a PhD. If you want to go professional after an MS, it's not much work. To get into a strong PhD program you need to do a lot more. Publications, conference presentations, teaching classes, original research, etc etc.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • Lion_in_CBus said...

    It depends, I did a professional masters degree in Public Affairs and it was more like MTayl described. The class would either be big projects or a series of small project. They also knew that they didn't need to slam you with work. However, I have heard horror stories about law school from my friends.

    This is exactly how my current graduate school studies are. One large group project a semester that either spans the entire semester or encompasses the entire last month or so of the course. Also, small projects to work on due every two weeks and quizzes here and there to keep me honest. That's about it.

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  • leftcoastlion said...

    It depends on whether or not you want to get a PhD. If you want to go professional after an MS, it's not much work. To get into a strong PhD program you need to do a lot more. Publications, conference presentations, teaching classes, original research, etc etc.

    Yeah, I have a couple friends that went on to PhD programs in STEM. The faculty at a professional degree program are more geared towards the practical side. Its something people don't think of, but there are clear programs in public policy focused on academic and others focused on work related goals.

    However, I am thinking about going back to a PhD program for public policy. My next career step (policy wonk stuff) would be aided by the skills/publication history.

    Lion_in_CBus

  • Lion_in_CBus said...

    Yeah, I have a couple friends that went on to PhD programs in STEM. The faculty at a professional degree program are more geared towards the practical side. Its something people don't think of, but there are clear programs in public policy focused on academic and others focused on work related goals.

    However, I am thinking about going back to a PhD program for public policy. My next career step (policy wonk stuff) would be aided by the skills/publication history.

    I actually do public policy at the MS level here at Oregon State. We have a lot of professionally geared students, but a few, like myself, who are far more academic focused. I won't be continuing down that that road for my PhD though.

    This post was edited by leftcoastlion on 2/26/2013 at 2:48 PM

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion