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dwillforpres said...
Why in God's name are we investigating judicial affairs? Why would the BOT ever allow that? Freeh works for them. Do they want NCAA violations? It makes no sense. Do we have a suicide wish? I would never allow Freeh to investigate that if it was up to me. Why are we taking chances with that?
You can find the truth in the Sandusky case and not probe into other areas.
If he came up to me and said "well I'm pushing the investigation towards preferential treatment to football players in judicial affairs", I'd say "Why the h*ll are you doing that?" "Stick to Sandusky".
God help the BOT if we weren't going to get sanctions based off of Sandusky but get them due to judicial affairs. Thanks a lot geniuses. Let's find out about Sandusky period.
Just my opinion. Do you agree/disagree? I want the whole truth in the Sandusky scandal but I don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot anymore than we have to.
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dwillforpres said...
Why in God's name are we investigating judicial affairs? Why would the BOT ever allow that? Freeh works for them. Do they want NCAA violations? It makes no sense. Do we have a suicide wish? I would never allow Freeh to investigate that if it was up to me. Why are we taking chances with that?
You can find the truth in the Sandusky case and not probe into other areas.
If he came up to me and said "well I'm pushing the investigation towards preferential treatment to football players in judicial affairs", I'd say "Why the h*ll are you doing that?" "Stick to Sandusky".
God help the BOT if we weren't going to get sanctions based off of Sandusky but get them due to judicial affairs. Thanks a lot geniuses. Let's find out about Sandusky period.
Just my opinion. Do you agree/disagree? I want the whole truth in the Sandusky scandal but I don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot anymore than we have to.
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mad4psu said...
My guess is that this has to do with keeping the promise of complete openness.
To date, the PSU administration and BoT have earned the reputation of being very secretive.
That's my guess in answer to your question.
My question is; Why wouldn't you want to be able to go forward without ANY questions about PSU, the program or anything to do with the brand?
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dwillforpres said...
Let me first say that I want the whole truth in the Sandusky scandal but I don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot anymore than we have to.
So why in God's name are we investigating judicial affairs? Why would the BOT ever allow that? Freeh works for them. Do they want NCAA violations? It makes no sense. Do we have a suicide wish? I would never allow Freeh to investigate that if it was up to me. Why are we taking chances with that?
You can find the truth in the Sandusky case and not probe into other areas.
If he came up to me and said "well I'm pushing the investigation towards preferential treatment to football players in judicial affairs", I'd say "Why the h*ll are you doing that?" "Stick to Sandusky".
God help the BOT if we weren't going to get sanctions based off of Sandusky but get them due to judicial affairs. Thanks a lot geniuses. Let's find out about Sandusky period.
Just my opinion. Do you agree/disagree?
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
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dwillforpres said...
Sanctions would not rescue anything. It would only punish the fans, players and coaches.
We're not talking payments here. We're talking about suspending a kid one game or 2.
See how strong our foundation is after the beating we've taken PLUS devastating penalties. We wouldn't have a shot.
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tdiddy said...
If sanctions are deserved, self imposing them will be a start in rebuilding our credibility...which is currently at ground zero. Everyone deserves to know exactly what happened. PSU deserves to be completely opened up. If we don't like the results, so what? We need to deal with them, admit ALL the errors, and be held accountable. If it means our football team misses out on a few mid-tier bowl appearances, we lose a few recruits, and we have a few less schollies for the next 3 years...then so be it. "Having a shot" is the exact type of distorted thinking which got us into this mess.
This post was edited by gemrich on 7/3/2012 at 11:20 AM
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HolyLion said...
I'm not so sure the leaks are coming from the Freeh investigation. I think there are a lot of people in Judicial Affairs with axes to grind after years of feeling like they were getting bossed around by the athletic department. This is a convenient opportunity to leak things and not get caught or have to worry about the repercussions.
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mad4psu said...
My guess is that this has to do with keeping the promise of complete openness.
To date, the PSU administration and BoT have earned the reputation of being very secretive.
That's my guess in answer to your question.
My question is; Why wouldn't you want to be able to go forward without ANY questions about PSU, the program or anything to do with the brand?
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tdiddy said...
Doubtful. IMO...stress IMO...the preparation has already begun in respect to clearing the scholarship decks.
PSU currently has 78 scholarship players. We have 13 seniors and 16 fourth year Juniors, as many as 9 of whom will not be returning for their 5th years IMO. That means we could lose as many as 22 players from a 78 man roster. That leaves only 56 kids on scholarship heading into 2013. Are we currently building a recruiting class of 30? No...more like a class of 20. Do the math. It's being done for a reason...again IMO. The numbers rarely lie in respect to these types of things, and the PSU staff is building cautiously in relation to the possibility of upcoming restrictions.
Frankly, as awful as it sounds, PSU football is in an advantageous position to 'handle' scholarship reductions and bowl restrictions. The scholarship roster will be thinned out of a lot of dormant spots after this year, and we're not in a position to seriously compete for premiere bowls for at least 2-3 years. If appropriate, I think it's in the program's best interest to impose punishment ASAP when the full report surfaces. Based on the numbers, I have a feeling that such conversations may have already occurred.
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tdiddy said...
Doubtful. IMO...stress IMO...the preparation has already begun in respect to clearing the scholarship decks.
PSU currently has 78 scholarship players. We have 13 seniors and 16 fourth year Juniors, as many as 9 of whom will not be returning for their 5th years IMO. That means we could lose as many as 22 players from a 78 man roster. That leaves only 56 kids on scholarship heading into 2013. Are we currently building a recruiting class of 30? No...more like a class of 20. Do the math. It's being done for a reason...again IMO. The numbers rarely lie in respect to these types of things, and the PSU staff is building cautiously in relation to the possibility of upcoming restrictions.
Frankly, as awful as it sounds, PSU football is in an advantageous position to 'handle' scholarship reductions and bowl restrictions. The scholarship roster will be thinned out of a lot of dormant spots after this year, and we're not in a position to seriously compete for premiere bowls for at least 2-3 years. If appropriate, think it's in the program's best interest to impose punishment ASAP when the full report surfaces. Based on the numbers, I have a feeling that such conversations may have already occurred.
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