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Well now, Emmert better punish this cover-up

  • tito76 said...

    very true statement, but rules need to be enforced fairly. though this at UW might not be on the same scale as our PSu issue, it IS STILL an offense of rules. emmert cant just pick and choose to whom he levels sanctions now. he has to be balanced in his penalties or he is an hypocrite.

    Rape of teenage girls is not on the same scale as rape of young boys? Did you really just type that and hit "send"? Wow! SMH

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  • i dont know about the scale. But Emmert certainly is a hypocrite (and the board didnt commission a 67 page, after table of contents/appendix, self destructive report)

    The main dissimilarity is that UW had "ethically challenged" Neuheisal there to explain.

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    Rape of teenage girls is not on the same scale as rape of young boys? Did you really just type that and hit "send"? Wow! SMH

    by scale i meant the level of media scrutiny psu has received compared to UW

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  • perfect said...

    A school and community covering up rape to protect the football program.

    I don't buy that. Maybe some people not grasping what happened and folks lashing out to show the hypocrisy of the NCAA. That is no secret that somebody will expose with google. The NCAA is crooked and has no guidelines that they adhere to. That is evident. There will be no "we take it back" from them.

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    Rape of teenage girls is not on the same scale as rape of young boys? Did you really just type that and hit "send"? Wow! SMH

    It is unfortunately true at many institutions and not uncommon if you read around. Besides UW look at instances at Nebraska, Notre Dame, Iowa.

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  • This story is incredible:It's long. Just read it. I've posted a teaser.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004152847_rbkelley300.html
    Key UW linebacker played entire season after his bloody print was tied to shooting

    Days before the draft, Davis had asked the UW's coach, Rick Neuheisel, about Pharms. Neuheisel's report glowed.

    Fans get duped. Newspapers get duped. Even an NFL team handing out million-dollar contracts can get duped.

    More than a year earlier, on March 14, 2000, at about 8 p.m., Pharms showed up at the apartment of Kerry Sullivan, a small-time drug dealer in the University District.

    Pharms, a 250-pound linebacker from Sacramento, Calif., was a star at the UW. He bench-pressed more than 400 pounds, sported a pit-bull tattoo, and sometimes, during games, locked eyes with an opposing player and proceeded to urinate, the stream darkening his pants. He did this to intimidate. After all, who'd want to go against someone as crazy as that?

    Pharms walked into Sullivan's bedroom, where the dealer retrieved a quarter-pound of marijuana..Pharms talked about how he was failing his classes. He later left the apartment.

    About 3 hours later..
    A roommate of Sullivan's answered, and two men came in. One, wearing a ski mask, ran into Sullivan's bedroom while the other intruder held a gun on the roommate and said, "Shhhh."

    Sullivan, in his room studying for a calculus exam at Seattle Central Community College, heard someone yell: "Freeze. Don't turn around." Sullivan turned around. He saw a masked man with a silver automatic, jumped up and grabbed for the gun. The two men wrestled, then the robber pulled away and pistol-whipped Sullivan. As Sullivan fell, the robber fired a shot that went through Sullivan's right thigh and lodged in his chest, just missing his liver.

    The robber went to Sullivan's closet, grabbed the bag of marijuana -- worth about $1,000 -- and ran off, tripping over a telephone cord and smashing into a wall on the way out.

    Detectives with the Seattle Police Department's gang-crimes unit were in the area and showed up first. Next came Mike Magan, a robbery detective who once played football at the UW.

    Institutional coverups, more violence, way more info in the article.

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  • Mark Emmert is a repeat offender in hypocrisy.

    Check out what a former Ph.D from LSU wrote about him on an LSU faculty website.

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  • luciano 22 said...

    At some point, the PSU fanbase needs to get a grip on what happened. I know you are mad. Your current players and none of your fans had anything to do with what happened. The penalties suck and seem unjust. Kids got raped because the people in charge of your school wanted to protect your football program . End of story. This is what happened. This isn't a "media" conspiracy. No amount of $ you donate or wins you forfeit will bring back the innocence of a child molested. It could have been prevented. That is the travesty. Sucks that you have to deal with the repercussions but it is much worse on the kids who suffered. You will wake up tomorrow and still be a PSU fan. Those people will wake up tomorrow and deal with a life that most cannot fathom because of people that were in charge of your program. Most of them are PSU fans too. That was part of the allure. PSU football will recover. The victims will never get their childhood back. They face a sanction much worse than anything the NCAA can hand down.

    I'm pretty sure you are the one that needs to get a grip. Maybe you should read the post here and think about things before opening your yap. We are very critical on Emmert and the NCAA for sanctioning PSU with fake rules that don't pertain to the guidlines of that organization. They had no jurisdiction. Read the book and tell me how you get these severe sanctions from broken rules in that book. You can't. This is a Federal and Dept of Higher Education thing. Emmert has popped off comments that are very incorrect regarding PSU and probably won't investigate the cover up a rape at Washington. He probably won't touch the Syracuse thing because its one of his alma maters. Boeheim knew Fein was sleeping with kids. There are people who want this guy to resign from his post immediately. Some will make it a point to get him canned and nail him in the media ... I have no problem with people who want to ruin his career and his stature.

    This post was edited by Hamilton Lion on 7/25/2012 at 6:53 AM

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  • Hamilton Lion said...

    I'm pretty sure you are the one that needs to get a grip. Maybe you should read the post here and think about things before opening your yap. We are very critical on Emmert and the NCAA for sanctioning PSU with fake rules that don't pertain to the guidlines of that organization. They had no jurisdiction. Read the book and tell me how you get these severe sanctions from broken rules in that book. You can't. This is a Federal and Dept of Higher Education thing. Emmert has popped off comments that are very incorrect regarding PSU and covered up a rape at Washington. He is now the President of the NCAA? There are people who want this guy to resign from his post immediately. Some will make it a point to get him canned and nail him in the media ... I have no problem with people who want to ruin his career and his stature.

    In other news.....Les Miles & The Current UWashington AD approve of Emmert's actions.

    http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2012/07/lsu_coach_les_miles_supports_n.html

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/collegesports/2018756225_pennstatelocal24.html

    Wash. AD & Miles both hired by Emmert? Make public statements in support of him. Do it. Or I'll come after you next.

    Posas14

  • Posas14 said...

    This story is incredible:It's long. Just read it. I've posted a teaser.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004152847_rbkelley300.html Key UW linebacker played entire season after his bloody print was tied to shooting

    Days before the draft, Davis had asked the UW's coach, Rick Neuheisel, about Pharms. Neuheisel's report glowed.

    Fans get duped. Newspapers get duped. Even an NFL team handing out million-dollar contracts can get duped.

    More than a year earlier, on March 14, 2000, at about 8 p.m., Pharms showed up at the apartment of Kerry Sullivan, a small-time drug dealer in the University District.

    Pharms, a 250-pound linebacker from Sacramento, Calif., was a star at the UW. He bench-pressed more than 400 pounds, sported a pit-bull tattoo, and sometimes, during games, locked eyes with an opposing player and proceeded to urinate, the stream darkening his pants. He did this to intimidate. After all, who'd want to go against someone as crazy as that?

    Pharms walked into Sullivan's bedroom, where the dealer retrieved a quarter-pound of marijuana..Pharms talked about how he was failing his classes. He later left the apartment.

    About 3 hours later.. A roommate of Sullivan's answered, and two men came in. One, wearing a ski mask, ran into Sullivan's bedroom while the other intruder held a gun on the roommate and said, "Shhhh."

    Sullivan, in his room studying for a calculus exam at Seattle Central Community College, heard someone yell: "Freeze. Don't turn around." Sullivan turned around. He saw a masked man with a silver automatic, jumped up and grabbed for the gun. The two men wrestled, then the robber pulled away and pistol-whipped Sullivan. As Sullivan fell, the robber fired a shot that went through Sullivan's right thigh and lodged in his chest, just missing his liver.

    The robber went to Sullivan's closet, grabbed the bag of marijuana -- worth about $1,000 -- and ran off, tripping over a telephone cord and smashing into a wall on the way out.

    Detectives with the Seattle Police Department's gang-crimes unit were in the area and showed up first. Next came Mike Magan, a robbery detective who once played football at the UW.

    Institutional coverups, more violence, way more info in the article.

    The degree of lawlessness by UW football players, and lack of investigation at UW is stunning.
    Wonder how much Emmert knows.....

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  • pennstatel0 said...

    The degree of lawlessness by UW football players, and lack of investigation at UW is stunning. Wonder how much Emmert knows.....

    Well they settled some of the rape victims for their failure to act the same year he became President. Something like $300k.

    So even if not in office, I'm sure he was aware. But he may have been involved in the actual settlement.

    Regardless of whether he was, UW clearly had a systemmatic culture of suppressing crime to protect atheletes. At every level of the University & community (Rape councelors, Campus Police, Seattle PD). UW was far more out of control than Penn State's 1 unreported incident (that is our fault).

    The fact that Emmert was President there, just makes it even better.....But UW deserves the NCAA treatment regardless of Emmert --- but he is absolutely aware. AND it does not appear that he ADVOCATED SELF REPORTING UW's LOIC to NCAA....maybe he should?

    This post was edited by Posas14 on 7/25/2012 at 4:53 PM

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  • will it be a good media story? that what everyone including Emmert cares about

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  • Posas14 said...

    I think that UWashington's issues are / were on a much larger scale than PSU's.

    Uhhhhh.... and it ACTUALLY INVOLVED ACTIVE FOOTBALL PLAYERS.

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  • JC from LP said...

    Uhhhhh.... and it ACTUALLY INVOLVED ACTIVE FOOTBALL PLAYERS.

    and coach if I recall.

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  • Hamilton Lion said...

    Boeheim knew Fein was sleeping with kids.

    Link? Maybe someone should hire you to do the Hamilton Line Report on Syracuse University!

    The NCAA can't investigate all these things. It doesn't have the manpower. Remember, most violations that result in NCAA investigation are done by new agencies and the NCAA steps in after those agencies show a lot of proof and has details. A lot of these college cases need to be broken farther open by newsies.

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  • luciano 22 said...

    I have no idea why you confuse discussing a major topic in CFB with trolling.

    You are a troll.

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