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Be mad at Joe Paterno? Your shtick is old. I can understand condemning the man, fine, whatever. But you single him out as the person who PSU fans should primarily be mad at? What a crock. Ever heard of a guy named Sandusky? How about Curley, Schultz, Spanier - at least two of whom were required by law to report it?
If Redd thinks he's in a better situation, fine. But people have a right to be mad at Redd. "I don't break promises," I believe was his quote. "Penn State is my dream school," is another, I believe. Was there a mass exodus where he was simply following all those who left? No. He initiated it.
I'm not mad at Redd for not wanting to deal with sanctions. I'm upset that anyone would pretend to love PSU and then bail when all he's really lost is bowl games. Especially when a lot of kids, most of whom never professed a love for PSU even close to what Redd did, stayed with the team.
I've moved on for the most part from Redd. But frankly, your act is old and pathetic.
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Be mad at Joe Paterno? Your shtick is old. I can understand condemning the man, fine, whatever. But you single him out as the person who PSU fans should primarily be mad at? What a crock. Ever heard of a guy named Sandusky? How about Curley, Schultz, Spanier - at least two of whom were required by law to report it?
If Redd thinks he's in a better situation, fine. But people have a right to be mad at Redd. "I don't break promises," I believe was his quote. "Penn State is my dream school," is another, I believe. Was there a mass exodus where he was simply following all those who left? No. He initiated it.
I'm not mad at Redd for not wanting to deal with sanctions. I'm upset that anyone would pretend to love PSU and then bail when all he's really lost is bowl games. Especially when a lot of kids, most of whom never professed a love for PSU even close to what Redd did, stayed with the team.
I've moved on for the most part from Redd. But frankly, your act is old and pathetic.
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Your post is a crock. All he lost was bowl games? Really? He lost the chance to play for a competitive team and play for a title. He was lies to and betrayed by PSU. He found out the HC he agreed to play fitness a liar, fraud, coward and scum. Same with his AD and the school President. The same idiots are still running the BOT.
You and everyone else has a right to their opinion, just as others have the right to think your opinion is dumb. He didn't break the promise, PSU did. That kid has done more and have more to/for PSU then you have or Hopefully Redd is more of an adult and more mature then many on here.
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Your post is a crock. All he lost was bowl games? Really? He lost the chance to play for a competitive team and play for a title. He was lies to and betrayed by PSU. He found out the HC he agreed to play fitness a liar, fraud, coward and scum. Same with his AD and the school President. The same idiots are still running the BOT.
You and everyone else has a right to their opinion, just as others have the right to think your opinion is dumb. He didn't break the promise, PSU did. That kid has done more and have more to/for PSU then you have or Hopefully Redd is more of an adult and more mature then many on here.
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I think Redd has proven his lack of maturity already.
Last I checked, PSU was still aiming to be competitive when Redd was here. Why would we not be competitive if he stayed, exactly?
Who lied to Redd? How was he betrayed? You yourself even said the NCAA sanctions weren't deserved. As bad as PSU's situation is, they did nothing that deserved the wrath of the NCAA.
Sorry, but that's baloney. Last I checked, many people who loved Penn State still loved it. Including the players who stayed. Penn State is still Penn State, even without bowl games, without Joe, and withothat.rley/Spanier.
Your act is old too. I don't think you've posted once about FOOTBALL in the last six months. Why bother posting about football when there are still people with a semblance of positive feeling towards Joe Pa who need to beaten into submission to your will?
Not even worth discussing with you. There's 70+ kids on the team who know what Penn State is about. I'm tired of talking about the kids who don't have a clue.
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So making a decision that you feel will be the best for your future is immature? Right, that says more about you and the people who feel that way then it does him and the people trashing him for making this decision.
Hard to be competitive with that large a scholarship loss.
He was lied to by Joe and others from PSU. He was betrayed as they represented themselves as something they were not.not.
Thinking his future is better by going to USC doesn't mean he doesn't care about PSU. Like I said, he have more to PSU then you and many others, things changed, and he made a decision based on that.
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No, leaving when it's the easy road (and not necessarily better for your future) is immature.
How would the scholarship losses affect Redd this year, exactly?
Oh really, I'm curious - what lies was he told, exactly? That Joe is God Almighty himself and that Redd should bow down and worship him? I'd think you would be the first to say that those people were not Penn State. Why aren't you trashing Redd for thinking Joe Paterno was Penn State? You seem to do that to everyone else, and yet you're assuming that Redd saw Joe as PSU. Penn State is much more than Joe and it's another sign of immaturity if he didn't realize that.
What exactly has indicated that he cares about PSU? Was it the way he didn't talk to BOB until he had made his decision? Was it the way he led the charge out of State College? Was it the way he didn't seem to give a crap about his teammates? People always say actions over words. Well, I haven't seen any actions or heard any words that makes me think he cares about Penn State.
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So you know what's better for his future?
Redd has 2 years left, so it would effect next year.
Joe in only part of it. Again, the same idiots of the BOT are in charge of PSU. Erickson is still the President and is an idiot. It's about more then Joe.
He led no charge. He made his own decision. If people based their decision on Redd than that's on them and not him. It also says a lot about BOB if he can't get them to stay cause Redd left. It's not like Redd was telling everyone to leave. You don't give your body and time like he did and not care.
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