The Lions' Pride

What do you expect from a 3rd string QB at state high?

What do you expect from a QB Coach that was recruiting coordinator for the 2000 class. Remember how well that group turned out?

What do you expect from a coach that was fired from JMU and UCONN? And JMU doesn't even care about Football. Believe me, I've asked. If they beat Va-Tech it's like winning a national championship and that's the only thing that moves the collective needle.

Someone won the gene pool lotto. And I can't believe a University would allow a father to hire a son to a part time gig making that kind of money....PLOP!

When you take an elite QB prospect, and after 13 months in the system, he can't beat out a walk-on, then who is responsible for that lack of development?

Rumor not true so we can stop the Jay bashing for now.

Personally I thought of using that. I may not love Jay as our coach but im not going to rabble rouse about it. I especially wont have an internet alias referring to him.

Anyone can spout out things without knowing. Maybe Jay quits coaching, maybe he goes elsewhere. I can shout anything as fact about 10 years down the road, but it doesn't make it remotely true.

As I said in the other thread, the rumor that McGloin will start doesn't make much sense. Reports indicated Bolden outplayed him in the spring and for a decent part of the summer so far, including the most recent scrimmage. A few practices and suddenly McGloin has vaulted him?

The staff has dug its own grave in this one and I think people who are pissed about McGloin starting are more upset at them than McGloin. How many BCS teams (heck, even FBS teams) have a walk-on competing to start? How many of them have a walk-on as a backup? This by itself is the most frustrating part of this whole saga. We shouldn't be in this position to begin with!

This is the most disturbing stat for me.

I just think it's funny that the subject line mentions "TAP(S)". Perhaps Taps would be apropos if the rumor is true.

Eh, let them have at it. If there's one thing that unifies Penn State fans, it's their loathing of Jay!

Which NFL roster is Pat Devlin on? Oh thats right he's not on an active roster and he won't be. He'll be the back up QB on the practice squad, which by all means verifies all the stupid shit people like yourself say about Clark and Devlin. O wait no it doesn't. The Dolphins have the WORST QB situation in the NFL. Of course knowing these facts won't change your opinion. I sure don't love Jay, but Devlin just was not a better college player than Clark.

College QBs in a spread are completely different than Pro QBs. That's a terrible argument. The job entails him to get his QBs to win games for Penn State.

I think you make very valid points. I also think that the whole paranoia that "McGloin might actually win the job" by a good portion of the fanbase is a little bit pointless.

Isn't the ultimate goal for any football team to play the individual at that position that gives you the best chance to win. Now a lot of fans have selected the candidate who they believe is the best QB on the roster based on various aspects of last year's season and off-season (on the field and off the field). The problem with that is that we have a brand new QB competition this year based on the improvements that either candidate has made since last season. Since there has only been the slightest trickle of info from those "in the know" as to how each of these guys has been performing in the coach's eyes this summer... I say may the best man win.

As to your question about whether they can pick McGloin or not... I find it very hard to believe that Joe would allow his staff to be manipulated by a player. Joe played hard ball before with the Bolden's and he also had an opportunity to name Bolden the starter in the spring if he was dead-set on providing depth for the QB position.

I personally would be very disappointed to learn that PSU had named someone (either one) a starter over a more deserving player... just to keep said player from leaving.

And in my opinion I want to believe (personal opinion) that Bolden stays even if he is not named the starter. I want to believe that he is more mature this year and not willing to jump ship and that the uncertainty surrounding his staying or going is more a product of him not wanting to give too much information to the Media (really think that Bolden and his family do not trust the media much after all the attention (bad and good) he got when he announced his intention to transfer).