The Lions' Pride

You are correct. Had the initial investigators and DA done their jobs and prosecuted Sandusky for the '98 incident future incidents may not have taken place. That is a failure of the justice system, but you don't seem to be reading a lot about that in the news now do you? Ironic how that same justice system has a shield law in place for instances in which they do screw up the investigation of a crime and allows future crimes to occur.

What does that incident have to do with Joe since we have no knowledge of his involvement in the '98 incident?

Do you think Joe was aware of that 98 "incident"? When a worse but similar "incident" took place in 2002 don't you think he should have said -enough is enough? This guy(Sandusky) is a monster. He should be in prison and absolutely banned from everything PSU? Joe Paterno could have ended the monster's reign of terror. For some reason he didn't. He had his reasons. There is no way he wasn't aware

Hey Outsider,

Let's get a few things straight. Yes, many of us are probably being a little selfish in wanting Paterno to stay on for his last home game, etc. It is because we know him after following the many, many, many great things he did for others throughout his life and we give him the benefit of the doubt that he did more than what it appears without the benefit of hindsight. If you think for a second Paterno is a bad person, then I think you'll be you'll have a pretty sorry life with all the other bad people you'll come accross. So, we don't like hearing "outsiders" who really don't know much about our program be the one's who force this on him when we know you'll all go back to following who you care about the minute it ends and apologize for any mistakes the people you care about make. This isn't about the kids to the media and american's who are calling for "justice". This is about wanting to see a great man fall. Because we in this country have an obsession with this sort of thing. It makes people feel better about themselves to see people mess up If this happened at the University of Maine and affected their swimming team, you'd hardly give it a second look. If this were all about the victims, it would be just as big of a story. Admit that.

The self-righteous BS gets a little tiresome. We know what to do and are doing it. We don't need sanctimoneous outsiders coming here to lecture us on morality. Especially when we don't know what kind of life the lecturer has actually led.

Thanks for posting. B'bye.

Your welcome. I'll believe you know what to do and are doing it (as will the rest of the country) by who you allow to represent your school on Saturday. Remember the victims arent you and your stupid ass coach and football team, its the kids that were scarred for life at the hands of your precious coach and admins, in your own freaking facilities.

Who gives two shits about your recruiting, or some old basturds legacy, or your ability to win some meaningless football game on Saturday. Multiple lives have been destroyed, but lets go hold a candlelight vigil for Ole Joe Pa at the park!

You should take a second to heed your own advice.

Apparently you do.

OK. Here is some logic. Those 10-12 year old kids were PSU fans. They came from abusive environments. A monster baited them with the lure of PSU football access. The admin at PSU gave the access to the monster. Regardless of the admissions and eye witness accounts of his unspeakable deeds. Those kids will watch your game Saturday. The man that leads the team out will be one of several people in authority who could have prevented it. Don't be so naive to think that in 1998 or 2002 JoePa didn't have full knowledge of something so heinous being leveled against a 34 year member of his staff within the boundaries of the facilities he built. Again, the grand jury testimony was several months ago. He knew it then. Agree? Why was Sandusky allowed to work out at the football complex last week?

If I reported something of this nature and NEVER saw any results as far as actions against this animal for NINE years, I would be part and parcel to a cover up. It is beyond reasonable to think that reporting it ends your responsibility.

If Paterno is on the sideline Saturday you (PSU, etc) do NOT know what to do. Your school and your fans are a lot better than than to give that impression to the world.

Much less, the past six months.

Either Sandusky knows something that Penn State doesn't want anyone to know or they foolishly thought they could keep a child molester under wraps.

I suppose hope this disgusting saga is never revealed because it would damage the university and "god forbid" damage Paterno.

What isn't being talked about is how the original DA just vanished into thin air and no one knows what happened. Much less, if they opted to wait to announce this until after Paterno achieved the wins record. Perhaps not expecting the backlash for Paterno to be this bad.

This is one shady, shady saga and I think there is much more to this. Question is, will we ever find out about it

All these questions you're asking are questions, along with many many others, that some of us would like to have answered. Like I said above, considering everyone is supposed have due process to begin with I think Joe's 61 years of good have at the very least earned him that right in many of our eyes.