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TOS reporting "unconfirmed" that JoePa addressed team/resigned

  • He was given the option last night. Resign or be let go. Joe declined the resignation, and the BOT has voted to remove him. The question is A) when and B) making sure all the legal ducks are in a row.

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  • tdiddy said...

    I don't doubt that Joe/Scott/Jay did issue a similar type of response. It appears as though Joe and Graham are in a duel to be the only man left standing. They're both going to lose.

    As long as Spanier loses, the rest doesn't matter. If he did his job in 2002, we wouldn't be dealing with this now.

    Theweeble

  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    Comprehension is the lost art of message board world.

    No offense, but so is having someone from an SEC school sans Vanderbilt telling us about morality and playing by the rules. Bama fans have been pretty darn good and supportive on this. Your message is totally different unless I'm not reading your mind right.

    Hamilton Lion

  • Theweeble said...

    Ha. I figured. If I was Joe and was asked by Spanier to resign today, my response would be, "you first".

    Spanier is the one ultimately responsible for all of this. If I was him, I would prefer it if Joe fell on the sword for me too.

    Good for Joe. Downvote away, fellas.

    loco

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • Theweeble said...

    As long as Spanier loses, the rest doesn't matter. If he did his job in 2002, we wouldn't be dealing with this now.

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    This post was edited by sneakypete on 11/8/2011 at 6:18 PM

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

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  • sneakypete said...

    loco

    Don't worry, Graham. We know how you feel. Why don't you head down to college ave and play us a song about it on your washboard and bike horn?

    Theweeble

  • Hamilton Lion said...

    No offense, but so is having someone from an SEC school sans Vanderbilt telling us about morality and playing by the rules. Bama fans have been pretty darn good and supportive on this. Your message is totally different unless I'm not reading your mind right.

    I am coming across wrong. For that, I apologize. What I am saying is that this is not a direct reflection on PSU. How it is handled from this point forward is.

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  • The Big Ten has now lost two coaching icons in the last year.

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  • Theweeble said...

    As long as Spanier loses, the rest doesn't matter. If he did his job in 2002, we wouldn't be dealing with this now.

    Agreed. It's sad that nothing more was done long ago.

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  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    I am coming across wrong. For that, I apologize. What I am saying is that this is not a direct reflection on PSU. How it is handled from this point forward is.

    No problem. Thanks for the response

    Hamilton Lion

  • TJMMBuckeyes said...

    The Big Ten has now lost two coaching icons in the last year.

    No offense but I'd hardly call Tressel an "icon".

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  • Maybe I'm confused here....but what grounds would the BOT have to fire him?

    Unless they know something really deep and dark.....can they really fire him simply because he reported to his superior and left it at that?

    md154

  • md154 said...

    Maybe I'm confused here....but what grounds would the BOT have to fire him?

    Unless they know something really deep and dark.....can they really fire him simply because he reported to his superior and left it at that?

    They can fire him for being a shitty coach.

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  • md154 said...

    Maybe I'm confused here....but what grounds would the BOT have to fire him?

    Unless they know something really deep and dark.....can they really fire him simply because he reported to his superior and left it at that?

    If there is a morality clause in the contract, you can attack that. Lack of action that puts his program and PSU in a bad light, or something to that effect.

    You can also use the oldie but goodie - failure to do all duties of the head football coach at PSU.

    This post was edited by Hamilton Lion on 11/8/2011 at 6:53 PM

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  • md154 said...

    Maybe I'm confused here....but what grounds would the BOT have to fire him?

    Unless they know something really deep and dark.....can they really fire him simply because he reported to his superior and left it at that?

    ???
    coaches get fired for not winning enough games
    ralph freidgen got fired at md because the school wanted to go in another direction
    anything confusing about those?

    maybe their firing him for not morally doing the right thing

    scottlarock

  • scottlarock said...

    ??? coaches get fired for not winning enough games ralph freidgen got fired at md because the school wanted to go in another direction anything confusing about those?

    maybe their firing him for not morally doing the right thing

    That's my point. Firing for not doing his job or getting it done on the field holds no water in the middle of a 7 game winning streak. Nothing has changed with him as a coach for years. So no grounds for that.

    I'm simply talking about making a bad situation worse. (not that i'm saying joe should stay after this year, totally not suggesting that) I'm just thinking his contract is over, is "firing" him going to really make things better? I would think simply stating "this is the last year, we are not renewing your contract...let's work on a retirement situation and move on" is a better route.

    As much as I am upset he didn't do more, he did NOT rape these kids. Let's leave him A LITTLE dignity to leave on a more normal scale at the end of the year. Only way I see firing is if he knew a ton of information, it's a fact he knew it, and a fact he hid it. Otherwise....

    md154

  • md154 said...

    That's my point. Firing for not doing his job or getting it done on the field holds no water in the middle of a 7 game winning streak. Nothing has changed with him as a coach for years. So no grounds for that.

    I'm simply talking about making a bad situation worse. (not that i'm saying joe should stay after this year, totally not suggesting that) I'm just thinking his contract is over, is "firing" him going to really make things better? I would think simply stating "this is the last year, we are not renewing your contract...let's work on a retirement situation and move on" is a better route.

    As much as I am upset he didn't do more, he did NOT rape these kids. Let's leave him A LITTLE dignity to leave on a more normal scale at the end of the year. Only way I see firing is if he knew a ton of information, it's a fact he knew it, and a fact he hid it. Otherwise....

    Dude, they can just fire him..

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  • md154 said...

    That's my point. Firing for not doing his job or getting it done on the field holds no water in the middle of a 7 game winning streak. Nothing has changed with him as a coach for years. So no grounds for that.

    I'm simply talking about making a bad situation worse. (not that i'm saying joe should stay after this year, totally not suggesting that) I'm just thinking his contract is over, is "firing" him going to really make things better? I would think simply stating "this is the last year, we are not renewing your contract...let's work on a retirement situation and move on" is a better route.

    As much as I am upset he didn't do more, he did NOT rape these kids. Let's leave him A LITTLE dignity to leave on a more normal scale at the end of the year. Only way I see firing is if he knew a ton of information, it's a fact he knew it, and a fact he hid it. Otherwise....

    for bringing loads of negative PR onto our university? Is that sufficient grounds?

    PSU12

  • ejb5212 said...

    Dude, they can just fire him..

    And you think that would look good, in the public eye??

    md154

  • I read on BW that someone said that BOT will ask Paterno to resign at 8:30 is that true?

    kdog

  • md154 said...

    And you think that would look good, in the public eye??

    Better than keeping him.

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  • md154 said...

    And you think that would look good, in the public eye??

    Unequivocally - Yes.

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  • md154 said...

    And you think that would look good, in the public eye??

    lol you're right because we look like a beacon right now in the public eye as it is loco
    people all over the country are calling for his and Spanier's heads so we would probably look better in the oublic eye

    PSU12

  • JettaPSU2001 said...

    No offense but I'd hardly call Tressel an "icon".

    in the time he coached absolutely. The numbers speak for themselves.

    NJBuckeye5

  • md154 said...

    That's my point. Firing for not doing his job or getting it done on the field holds no water in the middle of a 7 game winning streak. Nothing has changed with him as a coach for years. So no grounds for that.

    I'm simply talking about making a bad situation worse. (not that i'm saying joe should stay after this year, totally not suggesting that) I'm just thinking his contract is over, is "firing" him going to really make things better? I would think simply stating "this is the last year, we are not renewing your contract...let's work on a retirement situation and move on" is a better route.

    As much as I am upset he didn't do more, he did NOT rape these kids. Let's leave him A LITTLE dignity to leave on a more normal scale at the end of the year. Only way I see firing is if he knew a ton of information, it's a fact he knew it, and a fact he hid it. Otherwise....

    Not trying to troll here, but while he did NOT rape these kids, he also didnt prevent it from occuring over and over by ensuring the authorities knew originally. I mean, with that said, I think he should go immediatly.

    Someone tells you that they seen that going on. You going to just make one mention to someone and forget about it? No, I think you follow through to make sure he is held accountable. That wasnt done.

    again, I feel bad for you guys and the families. dont thake the post wrong.

    NJBuckeye5