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SIAP: New ESPN story (centered on Corbett)

  • There are only 14 states in the US that allow recall elections for govenor, and PA is not one of them. About the only way he will leave office before the end of his term is to resign, and with his huge ego, it's doubtful that will happen. Too bad for the Commonwealth and PSU.

    Unless......some type of criminal activity comes to light. I think I'll start scuba diving the lower Susquehanna river looking for hard drives.

    76IE

  • FireJayPa said...

    I wish they would link him and his second mile kick backs so people could truly see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

    Unfortunately the people that have made up their mind about Paterno will either ignore the article or not even see the article.

    I'm sorry, if you think Paterno is completely innocent in all this then you didn't pay attention. EVERYONE involved in this is guilty to some degree, including Joe and Red. The only innocent people and victims involved in this are the kids.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • FireJayPa said...

    All we need now is to know who made Ray go missing and what was on that hard drive.

    Anyone ever wonder if Ray was placed into Witness Protection or faked his own death?

    There was a show on the I.D channel about Ray. It discussed the history of mental illness in his family and that his heathered suffered from when he (the brother) commited suicide. Rays girlfriend at the time thinks he faked his death. The show also said the FBI had looked into this case. So unless the FBI is involved in the cover up whatever happened to Ray had nothing to do with any of this or Corbitt.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • sneakypete said...

    I'm sorry, if you think Paterno is completely innocent in all this then you didn't pay attention. EVERYONE involved in this is guilty to some degree, including Joe and Red. The only innocent people and victims involved in this are the kids.

    I never once said Paterno was free of guilt. I thought you and I were on the same page as this.

    Joe without a doubt failed to do enough. Everyone has various degrees of guilt, some more so than others. I just wish that some people would take things like this into consideration when judging him,

    FireJayPa

  • FireJayPa said...

    I never once said Paterno was free of guilt. I thought you and I were on the same page as this.

    Joe without a doubt failed to do enough. Everyone has various degrees of guilt, some more so than others. I just wish that some people would take things like this into consideration when judging him,

    Understand now. I misread your previous post.

    The problem with Joe is that the vast majority of PSU fans viewed him as some kind of deity and not as a mortal man who makes mistakes like the rest of us. So those who viewed him like that won't accept any wrong doing and they infuriated other fan based over the years with how they portrayed him as a deity imo thus what we saw from many when this broke.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • FJP,

    Have you started thinking about a new handle yet??? Curious as to what your possible alternatives are....

    PSU2001

  • sneakypete said...

    Understand now. I misread your previous post.

    The problem with Joe is that the vast majority of PSU fans viewed him as some kind of deity and not as a mortal man who makes mistakes like the rest of us. So those who viewed him like that won't accept any wrong doing and they infuriated other fan based over the years with how they portrayed him as a deity imo thus what we saw from many when this broke.

    Right and then there are people who view him as a God that could move mountains if he wanted to. In this article it explains what while he didn't do it all, he did have some issues ahead of him and had a certain person (Corbett) do his job this might have gone down differently

    FireJayPa

  • FireJayPa said...

    I never once said Paterno was free of guilt. I thought you and I were on the same page as this.

    Joe without a doubt failed to do enough. Everyone has various degrees of guilt, some more so than others. I just wish that some people would take things like this into consideration when judging him,

    I am curious as to what more he could have/should have done?

    Per PA law, and Penn State policy, he reported it to his superiors. Had he not done that and gone right to the police, not only does he get terminated immediately, but he also is subject to severe fines and jail time. He reported it to his superiors as per the laws set forth by Harrisburg and the PSU Board of Governors.

    After he reported it, what should have have done? Go to the cops? What would they tell him? By law, they can't tell him a damn thing. Should he have called the State Police? The State Police is going to come in, go to the UP police, and ask them what they know. UP PD says, we are investigating, and so far not enough evidence is there to pursue this. State Police says, ok, and leaves it at that. Now, as we all know there was no investigation done because Gary Schultz did not find enough credibility to launch an investigation, but somehow, Joe gets labeled, "should have done more". I went to a job interview yesterday and realized that I forgot my wedding band and my portfolio of resume's. I should have done more, perhaps I should have put them in my car prior to me leaving.

    Too many people are taking Joe's, "In hindsight, I wish I would have done more" as an admission of guilt. The reality is, for all we know he's saying, I wish I would have seen the signs from Jerry and perhaps I could have done something to prevent this.

    I am by no means a Joe Paterno apologist, but there are very strong boundaries as to what someone can do once they report this up to their superiors, especially in the State of Pennsylvania.

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  • white_out said...

    I am curious as to what more he could have/should have done?

    Per PA law, and Penn State policy, he reported it to his superiors. Had he not done that and gone right to the police, not only does he get terminated immediately, but he also is subject to severe fines and jail time. He reported it to his superiors as per the laws set forth by Harrisburg and the PSU Board of Governors.

    After he reported it, what should have have done? Go to the cops? What would they tell him? By law, they can't tell him a damn thing. Should he have called the State Police? The State Police is going to come in, go to the UP police, and ask them what they know. UP PD says, we are investigating, and so far not enough evidence is there to pursue this. State Police says, ok, and leaves it at that. Now, as we all know there was no investigation done because Gary Schultz did not find enough credibility to launch an investigation, but somehow, Joe gets labeled, "should have done more". I went to a job interview yesterday and realized that I forgot my wedding band and my portfolio of resume's. I should have done more, perhaps I should have put them in my car prior to me leaving.

    Too many people are taking Joe's, "In hindsight, I wish I would have done more" as an admission of guilt. The reality is, for all we know he's saying, I wish I would have seen the signs from Jerry and perhaps I could have done something to prevent this.

    I am by no means a Joe Paterno apologist, but there are very strong boundaries as to what someone can do once they report this up to their superiors, especially in the State of Pennsylvania.

    You are way off base here. Joe would not have faced any jail time or fines. None.

    Joe could have done a ton more and I expect more things to come out down the road. I'm not going to repeat the numerous things Joe could have done on here. If you want to discuss you know several ways to contact me.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

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  • PvillePA_Lion said...

    It surely did not do Corbett any favors.

    As well is should not.

    mad4psu

  • JettaPSU2001 said...

    Good article BTW. Are we sure this guy works for ESPN?

    According to Wiki, this reporter was hired by ESPN in January. Makes sense now!

    WeRPennSt

  • helpdesk said...

    I would like to see the testimony for McQueary's father and Dr. Dranov included. They were able to get Paterno's GJ testimony.

    To the best nof my recollection, neither was called before the Grand Jury.

    mad4psu

  • God I wish Paterno was allowed to release this statement on Tuesday, like he had wanted to:

    "Let me begin by offering Sue and my prayers for all of the people impacted by these events. I know it is small comfort given the circumstances.

    I also understand that there are a lot of questions regarding the events involving former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, Tim Curley and Gary Schultz. However, because of the status of these ongoing legal matters, I will not speculate or answer questions about the charges or the people involved beyond this brief statement.

    As the Grand Jury report notes, I was subpoenaed last January to testify regarding an incident in 2002. As my very brief testimony established, my role was limited to a single report made to me by an assistant coach in 2002.

    The coach in question came to my house on a Saturday morning and informed me that he witnessed former coach Jerry Sandusky in a shower with a young boy.

    The coach made it clear that he felt strongly that there was something inappropriate going on and that he was very upset by what he saw. The coach made no specific allegations of any identified sexual act, nor did he use any graphic terms – just the idea that what he saw was wrong and that he did not know what to do next.

    At that time I told the coach that he had done the right thing and that I would take the appropriate next step. After consideration I determined that, given Sandusky’s status as a retired employee governed by a retirement package negotiated with the administration, I had no authority to act directly.

    The next day, in accordance with University policy, I contacted the head of my department and related what was told to me. That was the last time the matter was brought to my attention until this investigation and I assumed that the men I referred it to handled the matter appropriately.

    I know that there are many other questions that people want to ask, but I ask that we all be patient and give the judicial process time to do its deliberate work. Finding the truth is what will benefit the victims most of all, and that is who we should all keep in mind as we deal with this tragedy.

    In order to give that process adequate time I will not be answering any questions on this matter, nor will I have further comment, until the legal process is completed."

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    That would have effectively hamstrung the media's illicit assassination of Joe Paterno's character and reputation. There's nothing but truth there, and NOTHING we heard since then contradicted it. That statement would have forestalled the firestorm because it clears Joe and the football program, and the media wouldn't have given a flying f*ck about this with Joseph Vincent Paterno and Penn State football involved.

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    appoo

  • white_out said...

    the video says that corbett accepted $650k from sandusky's charity and people associated with sandusky while corbett was "investigating" him.

    Corbett's going down, and the 2002 case will be thrown out IMO.

    He's possibly going to jail. The Feds are looking at monies that went from PSU and the 2nd mile. I wonder if they'll find a connection between that donation and Corbett?

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    appoo

  • mad4psu said...

    To the best nof my recollection, neither was called before the Grand Jury.

    "The (Harrisburg) Patriot-News -- citing a source with knowledge of Dr. Jonathan Dranov's grand jury testimony -- says the latest version of McQueary's observation differs from the grand jury presentment and another account provided to the newspaper based on a 2010 McQueary interview with investigators."

    The article was referenced by ABC News, USA Today, heck even a Bleacher Report article.

    helpdesk

  • WeRPennSt said...

    According to Wiki, this reporter was hired by ESPN in January. Makes sense now!

    Ahh, yes. It wasn't the featured article very long either. It will propbably be buried by tomorrow. The Sandusky trial getting delayed stays on the headlines for weeks of course.

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  • WeRPennSt said...

    According to Wiki, this reporter was hired by ESPN in January. Makes sense now!

    Per Wiki...

    "He previously worked for 16 years as an investigative correspondent at The New York Times, where he was a member of two Pulitzer Prize-winning teams"

    Finally ESPN hires someone with a nice, credible resume rather than a talking head or ex-jock.

    Ethan

  • appoo said...

    He's possibly going to jail. The Feds are looking at monies that went from PSU and the 2nd mile. I wonder if they'll find a connection between that donation and Corbett?

    I have a feeling that the Feds will have a hard time finding out much information about the money going between the Second Mile and PSU due to the Second Mile being a charity.

    getmyjive11

  • appoo said...

    He's possibly going to jail. The Feds are looking at monies that went from PSU and the 2nd mile. I wonder if they'll find a connection between that donation and Corbett?

    He's lower than imaginable in my book but I'm curious how exactly his actions lead to jail time.

    NavyNittany

  • JettaPSU2001 said...

    Hopefully the voters in PA wake up and oust him like Santorum.

    lol there are a lot of Republicans on this board lol I wonder how they feel about their boys lol lol lol

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  • rmj147 said...

    lol there are a lot of Republicans on this board lol I wonder how they feel about their boys lol lol lol

    I'd have the same opinion if it was Gov. Rendell involved with the scandal instead of Corbett.

    This shouldn't be a partisan issue. Corrupt politicians are bad for the state & country no matter which party they come from.

    Using a high profile investigation of an alleged pedophile for one's own political ambitions is so far beyond reprehensible I can't find the word for it. Any person that would do such a thing does not deserve to hold any type of elected office & it shouldn't matter if it's a (D) or (R) next to their name.

    rck127