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  • I promise I'll quit posting about the scandal at this point. It's so fatiguing and I recognize many here want to move on to football chatter. But I thought this was worth a mention. I have tremendous respect for this man.

    From Mr. Ryan McCombie:

    "If you were listening to the Board of Trustees call this evening, I want to clarify that I have agreed to "temporarily suspend" prosecution of the recently filed NCAA appeal to allow the Board proceedings recommended by Mr. Myers to occur in a full and deliberate manner. I have not agreed to a complete withdrawal of the appeal. While I fully support President Erickson and his commitment to protecting the current and future interests of Penn State University, I still intend to challenge the unfair, unwarranted and unlawful actions of the NCAA and the excessive sanctions imposed in some manner."

    PennSt8er

  • psuflip

  • In other words, "Karen, I heard everything you had to say today, and still believe it is utter and complete bullshit!"

    palehorse

  • Isn't there a certain time period where he can appeal the NCAA sanctions?
    30 days or something?
    If he doesn't formally go through with the appeal within whatever timeframe required, it can hurt his legal standing later on when he decides to try and bring it to court since he didn't officially exhaust his options by trying to appeal to the NCAA first.
    I think.

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    RWC5113

  • He has 10 days to file the NCAA appeal. I don't have a clue what his options are at this point since all the other blokes (except Lubrano and Myers) were suckling at Erickson's teats. I've never been so disappointed in a group of human beings beginning with Sandusky, Spanier, McQ, Peetz, Garban, Surma, ... the list is too long.

    PennSt8er

  • PennSt8er said...

    He has 10 days to file the NCAA appeal. I don't have a clue what his options are at this point since all the other blokes (except Lubrano and Myers) were suckling at Erickson's teats. I've never been so disappointed in a group of human beings beginning with Sandusky, Spanier, McQ, Peetz, Garban, Surma, ... the list is too long.

    In this case, the risks far outweigh the rewards. You cannot put the whole university and State College community in jeopardy just to "save" football. I'm not saying you have to like it, but this is the best move for the University.

    getmyjive11

  • getmyjive11 said...

    In this case, the risks far outweigh the rewards. You cannot put the whole university and State College community in jeopardy just to "save" football. I'm not saying you have to like it, but this is the best move for the University.

    So if you were being charged with a murder you didn't commit, you would take a manslaughter plea because you were afraid of being wrongfully convicted? Maybe it is the prudent move, but as you said I don't like it.

    An Actual Lion

  • An Actual Lion said...

    So if you were being charged with a murder you didn't commit, you would take a manslaughter plea because you were afraid of being wrongfully convicted? Maybe it is the prudent move, but as you said I don't like it.

    Don't forget the fact that you can't even defend yourself ir give your side if the story at all. You have some idiot assuming you did it all.

    pennstpete

  • I personally think that we have to just sit an wait right now. Let's see what comes out of the court with Curley and Schultz

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    Psu2011

  • I just don't see the risk in following through with this appeal. The NCAA isn't going to suddenly impose a death penalty and to think that they will revisit the sanctions in two or three years if we sit here and take it seems to be wishful thinking. Plus, I want Freeh challenged in some forum.

    An Actual Lion

  • An Actual Lion said...

    So if you were being charged with a murder you didn't commit, you would take a manslaughter plea because you were afraid of being wrongfully convicted? Maybe it is the prudent move, but as you said I don't like it.

    We are talking about a University here... and institution that supports 95k student, 600k alumni, the whole Centre county region, and (IIRC) is the 6th largest employer in PA. You absolutely take the best deal you can and move forward. You can't compare this to your scenario because it isn't even remotely comparable.

    getmyjive11

  • An Actual Lion said...

    I just don't see the risk in following through with this appeal. The NCAA isn't going to suddenly impose a death penalty and to think that they will revisit the sanctions in two or three years if we sit here and take it seems to be wishful thinking. Plus, I want Freeh challenged in some forum.

    Why wouldn't they just impose a death penalty? They do what they want, when they want knowing that their actions towards member schools falls outside the jurisdiction of the courts. You are naive to think that the NCAA couldn't and wouldn't do anything.

    getmyjive11

  • getmyjive11 said...

    We are talking about a University here... and institution that supports 95k student, 600k alumni, the whole Centre county region, and (IIRC) is the 6th largest employer in PA. You absolutely take the best deal you can and move forward. You can't compare this to your scenario because it isn't even remotely comparable.

    The best deal is to say a plea signed with a gun pointed to our heads shouldn't hold water and to have these sanctions removed. What exactly is going to happen to the University if we resist? I'm sorry, I don't see the NCAA suddenly imposing a death penalty. Public opinion hasn't been favorable to their actions up to this point. By ratifying these sanctions, you admit guilt and that will certainly have an effect on the University moving forward.

    An Actual Lion

  • getmyjive11 said...

    Why wouldn't they just impose a death penalty? They do what they want, when they want knowing that their actions towards member schools falls outside the jurisdiction of the courts. You are naive to think that the NCAA couldn't and wouldn't do anything.

    Especially when you never resist them. Again, they aren't winning the PR battle on this one and the purpose for imposing these sanctions in the first place was to appease the mob that they perceived to be clamoring for action of some kind.

    An Actual Lion

  • getmyjive11 said...

    Why wouldn't they just impose a death penalty? They do what they want, when they want knowing that their actions towards member schools falls outside the jurisdiction of the courts. You are naive to think that the NCAA couldn't and wouldn't do anything.

    Just because the courts might rule in their favor (and while it's likely that the courts would, I don't think it's guaranteed by any stretch), doesn't mean the NCAA actions falls outside their jurisdiction.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Just because the courts might rule in their favor (and while it's likely that the courts would, I don't think it's guaranteed by any stretch), doesn't mean the NCAA actions falls outside their jurisdiction.

    Fair enough, but you don't put the university in that position. If it loses, it will cost PSU hundreds of millions more (one of the sanctions will surely be to fully fund all other sports with zero football revenue). No Big Ten. No football. Athletics department destroyed. Community in turmoil. That is what you all want to take a chance with, when all indicators are pointing towards PSU losing in the courts?

    Is it really that important to you? confused

    getmyjive11

  • getmyjive11 said...

    Fair enough, but you don't put the university in that position. If it loses, it will cost PSU hundreds of millions more (one of the sanctions will surely be to fully fund all other sports with zero football revenue). No Big Ten. No football. Athletics department destroyed. Community in turmoil. That is what you all want to take a chance with, when all indicators are pointing towards PSU losing in the courts?

    Is it really that important to you? confused

    I don't believe for a second we would be expelled from the Big Ten. We're as much of an asset to them academically as athletically.

    An Actual Lion

  • getmyjive11 said...

    Fair enough, but you don't put the university in that position. If it loses, it will cost PSU hundreds of millions more (one of the sanctions will surely be to fully fund all other sports with zero football revenue). No Big Ten. No football. Athletics department destroyed. Community in turmoil. That is what you all want to take a chance with, when all indicators are pointing towards PSU losing in the courts?

    Is it really that important to you? confused

    Where did I say the University should be put in that position?

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    In this case, the risks far outweigh the rewards. You cannot put the whole university and State College community in jeopardy just to "save" football. I'm not saying you have to like it, but this is the best move for the University.

    What risk? Do you think the NCAA would reconsider and give the death penalty if PSU or it's surrogates appeal? The NCAA has already passed down a punishment, for the NCAA to change that to a harsher punishment later would be seen as vindictive or retribution. That would be a very bad PR move. At worst PSU would be right back where they are now.

    I like the move to appeal this.

    danmcc

  • danmcc said...

    What risk? Do you think the NCAA would reconsider and give the death penalty if PSU or it's surrogates appeal? The NCAA has already passed down a punishment, for the NCAA to change that to a harsher punishment later would be seen as vindictive or retribution. That would be a very bad PR move. At worst PSU would be right back where they are now.

    I like the move to appeal this.

    Yes, the NCAA would hand down the DP. It would go and launch it's own investigation and then conclude that PSU was grossly negligent and upon further consideration, they feel we need to not play football for 4 years.

    The NCAA does what it wants. As the two lawyers have said, the courts cannot dictate how the NCAA punishes it's members.

    getmyjive11

  • psubills62 said...

    Where did I say the University should be put in that position?

    You didn't, it was more of a general comment directed at people who think that fighting this is the best option. The implication was wrong on my part.

    getmyjive11

  • An Actual Lion said...

    I don't believe for a second we would be expelled from the Big Ten. We're as much of an asset to them academically as athletically.

    They aren't going to spend 4 years with no championship game. They aren't going to wait another 10 years for us to get back up to speed. Hell, they would be better off with Rutgers at that point.

    We aren't the only university with quality academics.

    getmyjive11

  • An Actual Lion said...

    I don't believe for a second we would be expelled from the Big Ten. We're as much of an asset to them academically as athletically.

    An Actual Lion,

    In every one of your posts in this thread, you are dead on 100% correct. You will just have to "agree to disagree" with those that are wrong.

    BoulderFish

  • getmyjive11 said...

    They aren't going to spend 4 years with no championship game. They aren't going to wait another 10 years for us to get back up to speed. Hell, they would be better off with Rutgers at that point.

    We aren't the only university with quality academics.

    Still not getting it. Like most everything else, they are all about the money. Penn State is the most economically vital member of the B1G. We bring the Northeast eyeballs to the BTN. The rest of this conference sits in the heart of the most depressed areas of the country, the Rust Belt and The Farm Belt. Good luck generating advertiser revenue without subs in NYC, Philly, Boston, DC, and Balti. Not to mention the destruction of the B1G Hockey Conference. FOX or NBCSN would not want that to happen. Our leadership simply did not realize the immense economic power it wielded and folded too easily.

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • Let's be real here folks...if you were in Erickson's position, what would you have done? It seems like there really wasn't much of an option and taking the sanctions we did while STILL having a football program was the best choice. While I do think the sanctions are extremely harsh and punish innocent people, that's how the NCAA works. Always has and always will.

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