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Dave273 said...
Actually that's what the original report said but that was changed in the corrections released a week or two after. The emails were you are referring to had to do with the incident in 2001 not 1998. Joe didn't lie about anything, Freeh made a mistake in the report(shocking I know) and went back and changed it.
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perfect said...
Do u guys honestly think its possible that paterno didn't know about 1998? Were u not in the same state college pa that I was? that was not at all believable even before the emails. After the emails u are insane to still believe it.
This post was edited by Seltz on 8/2/2012 at 9:54 PM
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jhouck610 said...
I agree a 100%, 24/7 has alot of Paterno haters on this site.. its sad really, I wish more people would stand up the the media and the bullcrap Freeh report.. Joe did so much for PSU and this state, and to hear penn staters kill him makes me sick... Make me think how many penn staters are really on here, I am ALL IN, but I won't forget our past, or what Joe did for the school... luv ya Joe, I got your back
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Seltz said...
You keep saying know about 98. Know what? That there was something weird possibly with JS, sure. He was fully exonerated of wrong doing by a few different fields was he not? Police, psychologist, and what not. So what was known(possibly(or maybe at best)), in 2001 about 1998 was that there was nothing deemed punishable by authorities. So knowing that, in theory, a lack of reaction to a story told by another(a story that has yet to be consistent and was admittedly, but the eyewitness himself, lacking in detail, I might add) is something that could be doubted. It seems those commenting on your response are not defending Joe, but your lack of facts, or anything close to facts as you keep spouting these statements. Siting the emails certainly isnt the way to go, as they are vague and inconclusive in nearly every regard. Something I think many seem to be ignoring is that no one aside from victims and the monster knew for sure that such horrible acts were occurring, until just a couple months ago. Hindsight is indeed influencing much here, and clouding the ability to try and 'put oneself in those shoes AT THAT TIME', if you ask me.
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perfect said...
Why did he lie here? He definitely knew more than "never hearing a thing."
JENKINS: People have speculated that you had knowledge of the 1998 police investigation. You didn't hear any whispers, rumors, reports before Mike McQueary spoke to you in 2002?
PATERNO: I had never heard a thing.
This post was edited by Seltz on 8/2/2012 at 10:39 PM
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Seltz said...
Joe lied to someone from the media? Seriously that is shocking lol.
A non sarcastic seriously here though, I never heard a thing is another truly interpretive response. Seems cut and dry. However, did he never hear a thing that would constitute further suspicion. As hearing about exoneration from wrong doing is what he heard. Meaning he never heard anything like MM reported(whatever that actually was), as he stated earlier in the same interview he had not heard of that type of thing before. She references the 2002 reporting by McQueary in the questioning as well leading to this type of correlation.
Not to mention this little blurb from Sally Jenkins:
“It was tough, tricky interview, compromised by his health and monitored by his attorneys, and I certainly didn’t walk away from the interview satisfied,” she said in a Washington Post Web chat.
As to why would he lie, he could have multiple reasons if he did in fact lie. Im not him and wasnt there, as we got a transcript, where I would prefer full non stop video review personally, though we dont always get what we want of course.
And no I am not trying to change your or anyone else's opinion, you asked the question I just responded
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Do u guys honestly think its possible that paterno didn't know about 1998? Were u not in the same state college pa that I was? that was not at all believable even before the emails. After the emails u are insane to still believe it.
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Psu2011 said...
Something I thought was interesting was that Freeh hung on to Paterno saying "You did the right thing, now it's up to me to decide what happens next." First of all, the basic principles in McQueary's testimony ( including dates and times which were off by over a year) changed several times. Why in the world would Freeh hang on to on of the smallest details in that shoddy testimony as one of his reasons for believing Paterno helped cover this up?
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psubills62 said...
Shake your head somewhere else, because you apparently misunderstood my post. First of all, I'm pretty sure it's Joe's INactions that people criticize, not his actions. Unless you think it was wrong of him to tell his superiors?
Second, my post was regarding the interview he gave in 2012. Don't know where you got that I was using it to "excuse Joe's actions."
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psujmc1992 said...
Did you or did you not use his age as an excuse for mis-remembering not only one of the most disturbing pieces of information he had likely ever heard in his life 14 years earlier but also something he had been questioned about by the grand jury much more recently?
I understood exactly what you were referring to. He was coaching two months previously and would have been coaching until he died if he hadn't been fired.
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Brannen55 said...
You guys need to stop protecting Joe. Nobody thinks that alums or fans, or the players or new staffs have anything to do with Sandusky. The plain and simple fact is, the incident occurred and he never even filled in his other coaches. If it wasnt some kind of cover up, whether for football, his legacy, university or just for Sandusky, why was it contained to four people? It was never even internally investigated, and Joe never spoke to Jerry about the incident but let him all access to his football buildings. Once you drop the defense of Paterno, the media and world will see PSU for what it is.....a world class institution, with world class student body and a rabid fanbase eager to get the players back when they take the field no matter who is playing a position!
"I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges
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You guys need to stop protecting Joe. Nobody thinks that alums or fans, or the players or new staffs have anything to do with Sandusky. The plain and simple fact is, the incident occurred and he never even filled in his other coaches. If it wasnt some kind of cover up, whether for football, his legacy, university or just for Sandusky, why was it contained to four people? It was never even internally investigated, and Joe never spoke to Jerry about the incident but let him all access to his football buildings. Once you drop the defense of Paterno, the media and world will see PSU for what it is.....a world class institution, with world class student body and a rabid fanbase eager to get the players back when they take the field no matter who is playing a position!
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