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Replacement refs on MNF were HORRIBLE !!!!

  • psubills62 said...

    I never said they shouldn't make the call. All I'm saying is that they're never going to. I don't like it, but that's the way it works. The Hail Mary is just one of those plays where even the replacement refs know they need to let the players play.

    Disagree. Fighting for the ball is one thing. A two hand blatant shove is entirely different and they do and should call it.

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  • I_Billieve said...

    Disagree. Fighting for the ball is one thing. A two hand blatant shove is entirely different and they do and should call it.

    Not to beat a dead horse here, but I just saw this quote in SI that supports my view:

    As former NFL official and officiating supervisor Jim Daopoulos, now an NBC consultant, said this morning: "By pushing [Shields] out of the way, Tate had the ability to be in a better position to make the catch. They should have seen the obvious push. That's a call you have to make."

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/09/25/replacement-referees-packers-seahawks/index.html#ixzz27fn0SDhE

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  • I_Billieve said...

    Not to beat a dead horse here, but I just saw this quote in SI that supports my view:

    As former NFL official and officiating supervisor Jim Daopoulos, now an NBC consultant, said this morning: "By pushing [Shields] out of the way, Tate had the ability to be in a better position to make the catch. They should have seen the obvious push. That's a call you have to make."

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/09/25/replacement-referees-packers-seahawks/index.html#ixzz27fn0SDhE

    Listen, man, I know it's an obvious penalty. The fact is that refs just don't call stuff on Hail Mary passes. The only time I've ever heard of it happening is in the Buffalo-NE game I mentioned (link attached).

    So unless you can tell me more instances of NFL refs calling PI on Hail Mary passes...I don't think you have an argument that they "DO" call it. Should they call it? I absolutely think so, especially if it's blatantly obvious. But they don't.

    PRO FOOTBALL: Officials Help the Patriots While the Jets Help Themselves; A Timely Interference Call Aids Bledsoe's Latest Heroics - New York Times

    The final play began at the Buffalo 26-yard line with six seconds left and the Bills ahead of the New England Patriots, 21-17. With the sky turning dark above Foxboro Stadium, the Patriots' season

    www.nytimes.com
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  • psubills62 said...

    Listen, man, I know it's an obvious penalty. The fact is that refs just don't call stuff on Hail Mary passes. The only time I've ever heard of it happening is in the Buffalo-NE game I mentioned (link attached).

    So unless you can tell me more instances of NFL refs calling PI on Hail Mary passes...I don't think you have an argument that they "DO" call it. Should they call it? I absolutely think so, especially if it's blatantly obvious. But they don't.

    We agree more than we disagree. I know they let a lot of physicality go on Hail Mary's. I am not arguing that. All I am saying is that the allow it to a certain point, and that point was crossed in the MNF game. It was over the top blatant. I don't have any further evidence to share, other than an ex ref saying "that's a call you have to make", which - for me - means that in a push like that, the expectation is that the penalty is called. So I assume there are actual instances where it was called. 95% of the time, it's just bumping, maybe a hand on the opposing player's hands...stuff like like. A blatant two handed push I think is much less common.

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