The Lions' Pride

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Also consider this: new system, injuries, youth, I felt officiating against us today was terrible.

We Still Are

Honestly, the negativity and asinine comments keep me from becoming a vip member. Why pay for something, when all the people around are saying the sky is falling and end of the world is near. I'd rather get my information a day after the fact, then feel obligated to sift through all the negative bs.

Much harder to transfer than you think. Friends, classes and community mean much more to most of these kids than playing in a bowl game. I have been there and these kids want to prove their abilities to friends, teammates and community.

I can't keep track of who's VIP or not since I'm on the mobile site most of the time but it seems this site is not as negative as the other sites.

How has losing affected ND's fan support and attendance over the last 25 years? I have no idea but I suspect not much.

I wasn't referring to fan support and attendance. Although, PSU's has been slowly diminishing prior to this debacle anyways. This next 5-7 year period will serve as an interesting case study for the endurance of the fan base.

Step has a lot to do with it, and is hurting as much as the losing.

Wow - just reading through this thread and can't believe some of the negative comments here. This team is very young, especially on offense and in the secondary, and I saw a big improvement from last week. Yes they have some issues, but if they can keep growing and learning like they did this past week, they are going to do better then many are proclaiming here. I respect these kids for sticking with the program, working hard each week, and not quiting (physicially or emotionally). I think we will begin to see a lot more positives - like we did this week.

The next couple years don't have to be as gloomy as some proclaim - if these young players develop, we get a group of core recruits each year, and the fans continue to support the team, these years won't be as dark as many predict.

I debated about going to the game today, but after watching them fight last week I felt they needed my support so made the 6 hour drive down there. I will be at every home game and trying to get to another away game. I don't see these kids giving up, and I think they will only continue to get better. Thats what they showed me this week and I sure intend not to give up on them, and I hope other fans don't give up either. We need to fill Beaver Stadium every week and cheer loud and often even during the rough times.