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Penn State's QB situation gets crazier

  • McGloin makes most of opportunity, but Penn State to stick with two QBs

    October 24, 2011|By Joe Juliano, Inquirer Staff Writer

    Matt McGloin led Penn State on a little better than a point-per-minute pace, throwing two touchdown passes through two-plus quarters against Northwestern. He took every snap from center in his team's victory over the Wildcats.

    And he probably won't start this week for the No. 21 Nittany Lions against Illinois at Beaver Stadium at 3:30 p.m.

    Penn State's kooky two-quarterback situation with McGloin and Rob Bolden has just gotten kookier.

    Head coach Joe Paterno said he and his staff have decided to alternate McGloin and Bolden in the starting lineup from week to week. McGloin said he was told of that move the day before the Oct. 15 Purdue game, which marked Bolden's seventh straight start of 2011

    "We had a chance to put them away two or three times, and we did not do it," he said. "We've got to get that instinct where we put people away."

    So even at 7-1, with a six-game winning streak, sole possession of first place (4-0) in the Big Ten Leaders Division, a No. 19 ranking in the BCS standings, and a schedule that gets tougher, the Nittany Lions have a quarterback situation that's like the proverbial box of chocolates - you never know what you're going to get.

    So after McGloin made his first start of the season a successful one, a 34-24 victory Saturday night over the Wildcats that pushed the Lions into the Associated Press Top 25 for the first time this season, one reporter seeking clarity asked quarterbacks coach Jay Paterno: "So McGloin is not the starting quarterback?"

    Paterno replied: "Correct. We're going to continue to compete and go from there."

    McGloin, a redshirt junior, could only shrug when asked if he was ready to continue competing for the starting job after playing an entire game that followed four contests in which he was on the field for the majority of plays.

    "I guess," he said. "I've been battling since I got here, so I'm really not surprised he said that. There's really nothing I can do about it, just continue to improve."

    Asked if the situation was better for him because he seems to thrive under pressure, McGloin replied: "I love it, yeah," with what sounded like more than a tinge of sarcasm.

    "It's laughable now that everyone makes such a big deal out of it," he said. "But at the same time, you go in there and play your game."

    The elder Paterno made the call on continuing with McGloin Saturday night. His son the quarterbacks coach said that when he talked to his father after the game, they agreed Bolden should have played in the third quarter after the offense grew stagnant.

    Joe Paterno said Bolden didn't play "because the game was so back and forth, I wasn't quite sure when to put him in."

    However, Paterno's answer to whether McGloin was now the No. 1 quarterback wasn't going to satisfy anyone looking for clarity.

    "No, I don't know who the quarterback . . . no," he said. "There'll be days when Bolden will play."

    After a pause, the coach continued: "Hey guys, we won the game. We won the game."

    So was that because of one quarterback, he was asked.

    "Who knows?" he replied. "You guys are the experts."

    However, the offense shut down after Silas Redd's 19-yard touchdown run with 11 minutes, 39 seconds left in the third quarter. After lighting up one of the worst defenses in the Big Ten in the first half, the Lions had just 88 yards of total offense in the second.

    Jay Paterno said the Nittany Lions went into a more conservative style after Redd's touchdown but noted, "Overall, we got sloppy.

    McGloin makes most of opportunity, but Penn State to stick with two QBs - Philly.com

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  • Joe and Jay will not be happy until they ruin the season with this BS. It is not fair for the players, other coaches, and everyone else associated with the program. Bolden has been horrid all year and McGloin and the team is coming off of a strong offensive performance but Bolden is gonna get the next start. Unreal!

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  • psujmc1992 said (in an earlier thread)...

    First of all, I think Bolden will play again by design...

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    psujmc1992 said (in an earlier thread)...

    First of all, I think Bolden will play again by design...

    Yeah. They're trying to keep him 1 inch above the line where he's fed up enough to transfer. Rob's gotta suck it up, keep his mouth shut and get better. Not going to be a ton of suitors lining up with the way he's played so far this year.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • It really is comical that Joe and Jay even try to defend the "wheel of destiny" that they use for QB rotation. It truly makes no sense. Hopefully it is more a way of keeping McGloin in check and possibly Bolden happy than anything. There really is no other explanation to it in my mind. If I were a betting man I would say Bolden is gone after the season unless a new coaching staff is in place. Most likely he will regret having stayed the rest of his life, can't say I'd blame him either. I just don't see how this season has been fair to either QB, let alone the rest of the team, at this point.

    PvillePA_Lion

  • PvillePA_Lion said...

    It really is comical that Joe and Jay even try to defend the "wheel of destiny" that they use for QB rotation. It truly makes no sense. Hopefully it is more a way of keeping McGloin in check and possibly Bolden happy than anything. There really is no other explanation to it in my mind. If I were a betting man I would say Bolden is gone after the season unless a new coaching staff is in place. Most likely he will regret having stayed the rest of his life, can't say I'd blame him either. I just don't see how this season has been fair to either QB, let alone the rest of the team, at this point.

    I'm not quite sure how a 7-1 record, with the only loss to the best team in the country, is unfair to the team.

    Personally, at this point I'd be happy with McGloin as the starter until he throws 2-3 picks.

    Funny how things go around and around. A few years back, numerous "knowledgeable posters" on another PSU message board were screaming that PSU staff were a bunch of morons for not getting the 2nd team QB (Morelli, Clark, Devlin--take your pick) more snaps before garbage time.

    pennstatel0

  • This season has suddenly gotten very real for us. With what's at stake and the level of competition rising, we simply cannot afford to waste the obligatory first two series of the game on Bolden. If for no other reason, this idiocy is what should finally tell the last remaining Joe stays until he wants crowd that the time has come. Nowhere else would this be happening.

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  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    Yeah. They're trying to keep him 1 inch above the line where he's fed up enough to transfer. Rob's gotta suck it up, keep his mouth shut and get better. Not going to be a ton of suitors lining up with the way he's played so far this year.

    That's been my line of thinking for a few weeks now.

    Sloepoke20

  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    Yeah. They're trying to keep him 1 inch above the line where he's fed up enough to transfer. Rob's gotta suck it up, keep his mouth shut and get better. Not going to be a ton of suitors lining up with the way he's played so far this year.

    I don't think he will be short suitors. It's not like he's Forcier and flunked out and has been running his mouth. Any mid-major will be more than happy to get him and I would bet Big 12 / Pac 12 schools will be calling as well. To me he would be better off in a a shotgun offense passing 40 times a game at a school like Oklahoma State or Texas Tech. Heck, Boise State will have an opening after this season and they love transfer students.

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  • helpdesk said...

    I don't think he will be short suitors. It's not like he's Forcier and flunked out and has been running his mouth. Any mid-major will be more than happy to get him and I would bet Big 12 / Pac 12 schools will be calling as well. To me he would be better off in a a shotgun offense passing 40 times a game at a school like Oklahoma State or Texas Tech. Heck, Boise State will have an opening after this season and they love transfer students.

    Really? I mean, maybe he could undergo a transformation at another school. But what has given you any impression that he is capable of a defensive reading, fast paced, spread offensive attack? He's show he can't see a blatantly obvious OLB blitz either before the play or as it happens. Put him in 7v7 drills, sure he looks great. There's a reason why defenses early in the season were just all out blitzing Bolden. He doesn't appear to be able to read or anticipate any blitz.

    If anything, McGloin looks like he could handle it a lot better than Bolden. I don't see a D1 school calling Bolden if he transfers, let alone the Big 12/Pac 12.

    This post was edited by bonovoxpsu on 10/26/2011 at 6:24 AM

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  • bonovoxpsu said...

    Really? I mean, maybe he could undergo a transformation at another school. But what has given you any impression that he is capable of a defensive reading, fast paced, spread offensive attack? He's show he can't see a blatantly obvious OLB blitz either before the play or as it happens. Put him in 7v7 drills, sure he looks great. There's a reason why defenses early in the season were just all out blitzing Bolden. He doesn't appear to be able to read or anticipate any blitz.

    If anything, McGloin looks like he could handle it a lot better than Bolden. I don't see a D1 school calling Bolden if he transfers, let alone the Big 12/Pac 12.

    a lot of what you mentioned can be done in the film room with the QB coach/offensive coordinator. The only way you see stuff is to break down hours and hours of film with a coach, and go from there. If you try to attack it alone, unless you know how to break down film and schemes...you are better off just skipping it, and studying your classwork.

    I'm not as down on Bolden as many, since I think, and i could be wrong here, but I think most of his problems are due to a complete lack of coaching and maybe even lack of trust in your position coach to help you.

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  • pennstatel0 said...

    I'm not quite sure how a 7-1 record, with the only loss to the best team in the country, is unfair to the team.

    Personally, at this point I'd be happy with McGloin as the starter until he throws 2-3 picks.

    Funny how things go around and around. A few years back, numerous "knowledgeable posters" on another PSU message board were screaming that PSU staff were a bunch of morons for not getting the 2nd team QB (Morelli, Clark, Devlin--take your pick) more snaps before garbage time.

    There were several games where this team was lucky to win, it is hard to argue that. A come from behind, last minute win at Temple should just never happen. Sorry, if you do not agree but the way this qb situation has been handled is a joke.

    PvillePA_Lion

  • This is what got them into trouble with Bolden last year and will ultimately get them in trouble again this year too. I don't think it's difficult to realize that the offense is losing its luster after awhile and to make a switch. But what do I know, I'm just a casual fan?

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  • pdiehm said...

    I'm not as down on Bolden as many, since I think, and i could be wrong here, but I think most of his problems are due to a complete lack of coaching and maybe even lack of trust in your position coach to help you.

    He has no touch on his passes. None. He can only throw a ball on a line. His short passes are horrific. Besides that, so far, the guy has shown no feel for the game. It's been said before, but he looks a lot like Morelli. Not even as good as Morelli right now.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • Situation could not get any crazier!

    jayer

  • pdiehm said...

    I'm not as down on Bolden as many, since I think, and i could be wrong here, but I think most of his problems are due to a complete lack of coaching and maybe even lack of trust in your position coach to help you.

    I think that's a major part of it....as well as him never feeling like he could make mistakes, so he presses. Which goes back to the lack of trust. Even though he stuck it out this year, you know he always has in the back of his mind what happened last year and how little he trusted Joe/Jay regarding how they handle that spot. So even though they may have promised him something, I doubt he ever felt free from those previous thoughts.

    I mean he looked so much better his 1st game of his career than some games this year with the rotation.

    They should have just given both guys one full game to not look over their shoulder. Bama, sure..split reps. But the other 2 early/easy game, let them each have one. Dumb,.

    md154

  • bonovoxpsu said...

    Really? I mean, maybe he could undergo a transformation at another school. But what has given you any impression that he is capable of a defensive reading, fast paced, spread offensive attack? He's show he can't see a blatantly obvious OLB blitz either before the play or as it happens. Put him in 7v7 drills, sure he looks great. There's a reason why defenses early in the season were just all out blitzing Bolden. He doesn't appear to be able to read or anticipate any blitz.

    If anything, McGloin looks like he could handle it a lot better than Bolden. I don't see a D1 school calling Bolden if he transfers, let alone the Big 12/Pac 12.

    Division I schools will more than likely call. I think a MAC school, which is still Division I, would be very interested. Why? He is only a sophomore, still has a redshirt year available (would have two years eligibility left) and has STARTING EXPERIENCE playing at the Division I level at PSU against some very good defenses. Kids that move to Division I-AA normally don't have the experience of a Bolden. Of course, JMO, but his amount of playing experience can't be discounted.

    As far as Big 12 schools - maybe a Kansas or Iowa State who have real QB problems.

    Hamilton Lion

  • I'm disgusted... McGloin (who I did not think would prove to be the more competent until the last few games) finally seemed to take the reigns and provide some stability to the offense and this somehow remains in limbo?...

    If I did my job this poorly, I wouldn't just be fired from my job, I'd be in prison.

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  • JC from LP said...

    I'm disgusted... McGloin (who I did not think would prove to be the more competent until the last few games) finally seemed to take the reigns and provide some stability to the offense and this somehow remains in limbo?...

    If I did my job this poorly, I wouldn't just be fired from my job, I'd be in prison.

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  • Two things. Does anyone actually believe Bolden will start on Saturday? And it's rather disturbing to read that the Paterno's looked back and thought it would have been a good idea to play Bolden in the third quarter on Saturday. Check that. That's not rather disturbing, that's downright frightening.

    gemrich

  • JC from LP said...

    I'm disgusted... McGloin (who I did not think would prove to be the more competent until the last few games) finally seemed to take the reigns and provide some stability to the offense and this somehow remains in limbo?...

    If I did my job this poorly, I wouldn't just be fired from my job, I'd be in prison.

    The coaching staff and their poor job performance has us at 7-1 and alone at the top of our division...

    The whole offseason and stubbornly through the first half of the season fans have defended and held out hope that Bolden could win this job. To most it has become apparent that he obviously has not only failed to distance himself from McGloin, but that McGloin has actually distanced himself from Bolden.

    But when one looks at the team dynamic we have won with both at the helm. McGloin may have contributed significantly more to this 7-1 start than Bolden, but Bolden has still been apart of this 7-1 record.

    This is a strange year, that right now may or may not be teetering on the edge of a very nice year... This team has found ways to win despite the odd QB set-up and may very well continue to. But I find it to be extremely short-sighted of some fans to whine about the continued uncertainty at QB, when for years we have whined about not getting the younger, more talented prospect more reps. There are many fans that would agree that Bolden has better physical talent and upside than McGloin, yet lacks some of the intangibles that experience and reps may deliver. At this point with the team already surprising quite a few in the media and fans, It might be time to let the staff do their thing.

    I have been a proponent of McGloin being the starter since very early in the season, but I no longer care at this point how much either plays as long as the wins keep coming. McGloin looks to give us the best chance, but the more Bolden plays the better chance that he realizes his potential down the road.

    Just win.

    VinegarBased63624

  • This is the only program in the country where a kid goes from not playing one week to starting the next week when an injury or poor play wasn't involved. I've been a supporter of Joe my whole life but I cannot wait until the day he is no longer our head coach...Him spazzing out on reporters asking about the QB situation is embarrassing too.

    JayStizz133

  • gemrich said...

    Two things. Does anyone actually believe Bolden will start on Saturday? And it's rather disturbing to read that the Paterno's looked back and thought it would have been a good idea to play Bolden in the third quarter on Saturday. Check that. That's not rather disturbing, that's downright frightening.

    That's the same situation he got himself into last year after Rob's injury - failing to get Rob in and have some PT which led to his near transfer. Joe had the same remarks after the season regarding the QB situation when Rob was looking at transferring. We're headed down the same path we went down last year, IMO.

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  • Vinegar-Based said...

    The coaching staff and their poor job performance has us at 7-1 and alone at the top of our division...

    Lets cool it with the 7-1 record. Probably 95% of PSU fans had this team at worst 6-2 at this juncture because the schedule WASN'T difficult at all. The only victory PSU has gotten that people thought was going to be a loss was a win against Iowa, which is probably the worst Iowa team in six years. A good PSU coaching staff doesn't struggled to beat Temple; struggled to beat a p*ss poor Indiana team; struggled to beat Purdue at home and don't pull away from Northwestern until the fourth quarter.

    Lots of the season left to go. This 7-1 start could easily turn downward this weekend with a loss to Illinois.

    Hamilton Lion