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md154 said...
That's it exactly. After 60 years on staff....44 as the head coach....an incredible career and legacy created......
Penn State has decided that Bill O'Brien (who half of us have never heard of outside of a shouting match with Tom Brady) as THE guy to replace Joe Paterno. This is exactly how they had it planned all along.
"Joe....we want you to retire because we don't know how long Bill O'Brien is going to wait around for us to snatch him up."
It's as simple as this. ESPN has no freakin clue what is going on. So they are going to name drop any lesser known guy to continue to make us look like we can't get anyone good. They are going to milk the anti-psu thing as long as they can.
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helpdesk said...
Joyner doesn't care what a bunch of board warriors think about O'Brien, and Schefter doesn't need to make stories up. For all we know Pegula got the down-low from the Kraft family and put the Patriots people in touch with the "search committee". The words of Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick may carry a bit more weight than others.
I'm starting to pull for O'Brien since so many seem to be dead set against him.
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Joyner doesn't care what a bunch of board warriors think about O'Brien, and Schefter doesn't need to make stories up. For all we know Pegula got the down-low from the Kraft family and put the Patriots people in touch with the "search committee". The words of Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick may carry a bit more weight than others.
I'm starting to pull for O'Brien since so many seem to be dead set against him.
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Source: Penn St., Bill O'Brien to meet
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Penn State is planning to meet Thursday with Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien, a source familiar with the process told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.Penn State has identified O'Brien as the coach it wants to succeed Joe Paterno. O'Brien is in the last year of his contract as the Patriots offensive coordinator.
'Bill is focusing on another Super Bowl run,' O'Brien's agent, Joe Linta, said Sunday. 'However, if an NFL team or Penn State seeks permission from Bill Belichick, then Bill will speak to them.'
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ESPN.com's Adam Rittenberg and Brian Bennett write about all things Big Ten in the conference blog.• ESPN.com's WolverineNation
• Blog network: College Football NationPenn State has been eyeing, scouting and honing in on the 42-year-old O'Brien throughout the past month, sources said. He fits the profile of the head coach Penn State has been seeking. O'Brien is well-schooled and has a mixture of experience at the college and pro levels. In an odd coincidence, O'Brien even attended and played football at Brown, as Paterno did.
Patriots coach Bill Belichick wouldn't comment on O'Brien after his team's win on Sunday.
'We were just trying to beat Buffalo today and we're moving on to whatever's next,' he said. 'I don't have anything to say about any other situation other than the New England Patriots.'
Penn State has attempted, and largely succeeded, to conduct its head-coaching search at the highest levels of secrecy. What can be confirmed is that, at the outset of the search, Penn State failed to land some of its top choices for the job. Former Colts coach Tony Dungy and Boise State coach Chris Peterson all received interest from the school, and each relayed to Penn State that he was not interested in leaving his current job at this time.
San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman has also interviewed for the Penn State job, an NFL source said.
Information from ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter and ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen was used in this report.
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Spulv400 said...
It actually seem fairly logical. Obrien meeting with PSu today, players and coaches meeting with Ira and Joyner seperately tomorrow,........
While this might not make people happy, it is the most logical situation. Are we STILL believing Gruden? Or Saban? Or Miles? Or Mucak? Or Golden, or Shiano? Guys whos season have been done for 3 week? Anyone else, and the deal would and should be done.
Not saying it is Obrien, but it makes a lot of sense.
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Spulv400 said...
Actually yes, the media has been on the mark lately. Obrien....seems to be true. Confirmed by ESPN, CBS, and NFL.com. Roman has been confirmed as an interview in November, which the media reported and was confirmed by Comm, The run at Petersen, confirmed by Comm, they got that one correct,
If the media is so off, who do you honestly believe it is? Are you actually holding out for one of the above guys? I wish it were true to.....but this is likely what we are left with. Slim pickins....
On the other side, what logic can we use that any"insider" has this near correct?
Your guess?
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Joyner doesn't care what a bunch of board warriors think about O'Brien, and Schefter doesn't need to make stories up. For all we know Pegula got the down-low from the Kraft family and put the Patriots people in touch with the "search committee". The words of Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick may carry a bit more weight than others.
I'm starting to pull for O'Brien since so many seem to be dead set against him.
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psubills62 said...
How was the run at Petersen confirmed by comm? His source was originally unsure of the name, but threw out a guess and it happened to be Petersen. Last I checked, I believe there were one or two people who discounted the O'Brien to PSU rumor, including Charlie Casserly. So there's mixed rumors about O'Brien - which ones are you claiming to be true?
I don't think it's true at all because 1) most of the rumors seem to be coming from O'Brien's side, 2) they are coming out right when NFL head coaching searches are starting (thus giving those teams motivation to go after O'Brien hard if they think PSU is that interested).
As far as the logic to confirm what the insiders say, check out my "Finding hope in the timeline" thread.
I really wish we didn't have to spell out basic logical points and conclusions so often. Can't wait for the coach to be named.
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Spulv400 said...
Actually yes, the media has been on the mark lately. Obrien....seems to be true. Confirmed by ESPN, CBS, and NFL.com. Roman has been confirmed as an interview in November, which the media reported and was confirmed by Comm, The run at Petersen, confirmed by Comm, they got that one correct,
If the media is so off, who do you honestly believe it is? Are you actually holding out for one of the above guys? I wish it were true to.....but this is likely what we are left with. Slim pickins....
On the other side, what logic can we use that any"insider" has this near correct?
Your guess?
This post was edited by LaJollaLion on 1/5/2012 at 10:42 AM
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LaJollaLion said...
Who confirmed O Brien other than the media? Roman said he was contacted a MONTH ago...so it was a month after the fact. I don't have a guess, but I can't believe this report. His agent hasn't even confirmed it. O Brien hasn't confirmed it. We have no idea on what is going on and it has been that way for 5+ weeks...now all of a sudden the media is on top of it? Really??? It's possible for sure, but I'm not buying it. Dave Jones said MM was the clear #1 just two weeks ago. How can you sit there and say the media has been remotely close thus far? Maybe this is the time they get it, but the track record hasn't been all that good.
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Hamilton Lion said...
If Pegula was a fan of the NFL, or Joyner and Ira knew anything about the NFL relative to the Patriot, they would know that former NE assistants that flock from the coup FAIL miserably. Weis failed; Mangini; Crenell ... the list goes on and on. Nothing good ever happens hiring a NE assistant.
By the way, you can pull for O'Brien all you want if he is the play. I would feel sorry for him as well inheriting a mess and coming in to a hornets nest relative to a fan base that doesn't accept him immediately. That said, down the road, I will be p*ssed as hell if Joyner's ego in thinking he could do better - passed on guys like Mullen or Golden and we ended up getting worse - much worse.
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That's it exactly. After 60 years on staff....44 as the head coach....an incredible career and legacy created......
Penn State has decided that Bill O'Brien (who half of us have never heard of outside of a shouting match with Tom Brady) as THE guy to replace Joe Paterno. This is exactly how they had it planned all along.
"Joe....we want you to retire because we don't know how long Bill O'Brien is going to wait around for us to snatch him up."
It's as simple as this. ESPN has no freakin clue what is going on. So they are going to name drop any lesser known guy to continue to make us look like we can't get anyone good. They are going to milk the anti-psu thing as long as they can.
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PSUKING said...
Quick and honest question and I know absolutely nothing about PSU's interest in O'Brien, but for the people who believe that these rumors of O'brien to PSU have legs....Why would this be made public info? I mean doesn't it seem a little strange that PSU has been extremely secretive regarding their search, but yet they would allow this to leak or that they would be so worried to keep everything so hush, hush but they allow the real candidates to speak freely to the media? If you don't think that PSU has been throwing the media for joy ride after joy ride through out this search I can assure you that there are quite a few media folks extremely unahppy for being led to believe info that hasn't been true.
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