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DocAlan02 said...
I posted this in the "Honestly" thread, but I am guessing this one will outlast that one, as it was posted by Jeff and they cover the same subject. I wrote:
I agree with them that the report is full of conjecture and states speculation as fact. Not only is Joe's legacy enormously impacted, but his estate could be held liable for huge amounts of money. The masses have decided that, based on the report, he was fully complicit in covering up for a pedophile. You don't think they have very valid reasons for wanting to investigate this fully and change the dialog?
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Solo said...
If they follow through with this, one must hope there is testimony which will exonerate Joe to a large degree. Failing that, this will only prolong the controversy in the media and continue to drag the university and its alums through the mud of public opinion and tabloid journalism.
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drken22 said...
I think all anyone needs to do is ask the Paterno's why Sandusky was allowed on campus after 2001? He has been reported to have had an office next to Joe's, been on the sidelines numerous times (with kids), and in the NLC box repeatedly after 2001. I would like to hear why this was allowed. This has been my problem since this story broke. Regardless of the 1998 and 2001 incidents, which have been extensively covered.
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FireJayPa said...
And if the findings of investigation don't "vindicate" Joe are they going to release it, or have someone else conduct an investigation until they see the answers they want.
I can't imagine how hard it is to see your own family ripped apart brick by brick and finding out at the same time as millions of others that he ignored a child predator for years for his own personal gain. But at some point you need to just let go.
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Cambria Nittany said...
This answer isn't very satisfying to many people, but I think the answer at the end of the day is that Joe simply didn't believe Sandusky was a predator. A bit of a weirdo perhaps, but nothing that couldn't be "fixed" with a talk and counseling.
I know Joe's interview with the Washington Post has now been torn apart after he disclaimed any knowledge of the 1998 incident, but I actually still take his comment at face value that the notion of a man raping a boy was inconceivable. He comes from the generation where this sort of stuff was never spoken about or seen, and if a man was caught doing what Jerry did, he would be so socially ashamed he would never do it again. I don't think Joe realized or understood that Jerry was a hardened predator and that those people don't play by the same rules of society.
For anyone that listens to the college sports station on Sirius/XM, Kyle Brady had some good comments along these lines last week.
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Cambria Nittany said...
This answer isn't very satisfying to many people, but I think the answer at the end of the day is that Joe simply didn't believe Sandusky was a predator. A bit of a weirdo perhaps, but nothing that couldn't be "fixed" with a talk and counseling.
I know Joe's interview with the Washington Post has now been torn apart after he disclaimed any knowledge of the 1998 incident, but I actually still take his comment at face value that the notion of a man raping a boy was inconceivable. He comes from the generation where this sort of stuff was never spoken about or seen, and if a man was caught doing what Jerry did, he would be so socially ashamed he would never do it again. I don't think Joe realized or understood that Jerry was a hardened predator and that those people don't play by the same rules of society.
For anyone that listens to the college sports station on Sirius/XM, Kyle Brady had some good comments along these lines last week.
This post was edited by chezhoy on 7/16/2012 at 12:21 PM
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Cambria Nittany said...
That is why I said this proves Joe should've retired after the 1994 undefeated season. Joe was on autopilot in his role as head football coach for life and fundraiser-in-chief.
Regarding the Paterno family investigation, call me cynical, but I think part of the reason Jay and family are commissioning a rebuttal to the Freeh report is that the good "Paterno name" was going to be Jay's meal ticket. If the name is tarnished, he has a lot smaller audience for his columns, books, and speeches, and will have a harder time if and when he runs for office, than he was going to have before the Freeh report.
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Cambria Nittany said...
That is why I said this proves Joe should've retired after the 1994 undefeated season. Joe was on autopilot in his role as head football coach for life and fundraiser-in-chief.
Regarding the Paterno family investigation, call me cynical, but I think part of the reason Jay and family are commissioning a rebuttal to the Freeh report is that the good "Paterno name" was going to be Jay's meal ticket. If the name is tarnished, he has a lot smaller audience for his columns, books, and speeches, and will have a harder time if and when he runs for office, than he was going to have before the Freeh report.
Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen
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Cambria Nittany said...
That is why I said this proves Joe should've retired after the 1994 undefeated season. Joe was on autopilot in his role as head football coach for life and fundraiser-in-chief.
Regarding the Paterno family investigation, call me cynical, but I think part of the reason Jay and family are commissioning a rebuttal to the Freeh report is that the good "Paterno name" was going to be Jay's meal ticket. If the name is tarnished, he has a lot smaller audience for his columns, books, and speeches, and will have a harder time if and when he runs for office, than he was going to have before the Freeh report.
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LaJollaLion said...
Don't you think it may be Jay and his family are simply upset and a bit confused right now? I don't think money is the motive with Jay or the Paterno's right now. I think last week threw them for a loop as well.
This post was edited by Cambria Nittany on 7/16/2012 at 2:42 PM
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LaJollaLion said...
I'm starting to see that hope slowly fade away. I get they are upset that Joe was focal point of the witch hunt, but I'm not thinking some magic bullet is out there. Like many they are having a hard time coming to grips with Joe's legacy basically being killed in front of everyone. I'm not sure they can win or should even fight that battle, but he wasn't my husband or father..so I can see why they may try to.












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