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Over / under 17.5

  • under but more field goals then we got last year

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    Roaringlion

  • One thing's for certain, too many people on here will seemingly be rooting for it to be under. I have never seen a PSU player reviled more than MM. Every single thread that invokes his name devolves into a public beatdown of all things McGloin. I'm as quick to blame as most, but give the kid a chance with a more sophisticated offense before you already write him off. If Gino Capone reads the PSU message boards, he must smile to himself.

    For the record, I'd bet under that number. But I happen to think that'll have more to do with our OL/Silas punching more in than a year ago.

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • Over

    warner3398

  • Over 17.5......................posts by rmj in the next 10 minutes

    PSU2001

  • In 12 games with BOB calling the plays? That is an easy over.

    getmyjive11

  • Over. Offense should look a lot different.

    psulion90

  • If he starts every game this season, over by a couple.

    Overall, I'll say under due to the fact Jones could take the job away.

    F the NCAA F the BOT F ESPN F Sandusky

    PSU42Fan

  • Did the OP mean to say interceptions?

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    Timpsu28

  • Timpsu28 said...

    Did the OP mean to say interceptions?

    Oh, that's why some people took the over. In that case I agree, over.

    In all seriousness in look at BOBs college track record. In 2001, his first year as QB coach, he had a SR in George Goodsey who threw for 23 TDs the year prior. Under BOB he threw for 18 and he had more experience and proven talent at WR then McGloin.

    In 2002 GT threw for 12TDs against 15 INTs which means they got worse.

    In two years as the OC at Duke the QBs threw a combined 17TDs. From 2004, the year prior to BOB, to 2005, BOBs first year the number dropped from 10 to 5 TD passess. The year after BOB left they threw for 21 TDs.

    His resume without Tom Brady, who was great well before BOB, does not ring out with genius.

    jmisdamina

  • Under...17

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    PSUjosh11

  • fortheglory94 said...

    One thing's for certain, too many people on here will seemingly be rooting for it to be under. I have never seen a PSU player reviled more than MM. Every single thread that invokes his name devolves into a public beatdown of all things McGloin. I'm as quick to blame as most, but give the kid a chance with a more sophisticated offense before you already write him off. If Gino Capone reads the PSU message boards, he must smile to himself.

    For the record, I'd bet under that number. But I happen to think that'll have more to do with our OL/Silas punching more in than a year ago.

    Gino Capone wasn't a D.Bag

    MM on the otherhand

    FireJayPa

  • jmisdamina said...

    Oh, that's why some people took the over. In that case I agree, over.

    In all seriousness in look at BOBs college track record. In 2001, his first year as QB coach, he had a SR in George Goodsey who threw for 23 TDs the year prior. Under BOB he threw for 18 and he had more experience and proven talent at WR then McGloin.

    In 2002 GT threw for 12TDs against 15 INTs which means they got worse.

    In two years as the OC at Duke the QBs threw a combined 17TDs. From 2004, the year prior to BOB, to 2005, BOBs first year the number dropped from 10 to 5 TD passess. The year after BOB left they threw for 21 TDs.

    His resume without Tom Brady, who was great well before BOB, does not ring out with genius.

    I guess we are screwed then. shrug

    getmyjive11

  • jmisdamina said...

    Oh, that's why some people took the over. In that case I agree, over.

    In all seriousness in look at BOBs college track record. In 2001, his first year as QB coach, he had a SR in George Goodsey who threw for 23 TDs the year prior. Under BOB he threw for 18 and he had more experience and proven talent at WR then McGloin.

    In 2002 GT threw for 12TDs against 15 INTs which means they got worse.

    In two years as the OC at Duke the QBs threw a combined 17TDs. From 2004, the year prior to BOB, to 2005, BOBs first year the number dropped from 10 to 5 TD passess. The year after BOB left they threw for 21 TDs.

    His resume without Tom Brady, who was great well before BOB, does not ring out with genius.

    So are you saying no one can ever improve? Is it hard to believe that maybe over the years BO'B has refined his schemes and offensive looks. I'd like to think success at the NFL level would carry more weight than his track record at 2 basketball schools.

    All4PSU

  • getmyjive11 said...

    I guess we are screwed then.

    Maybe, maybe not. But We should wait before annointing him a genius and how awesome our offense is going to be until after we see what he does. Especially with MM behind center. If we based it on his college track record there should be more worry then optimism. Maybe he learned a lot at N.E. and has done a 180. Fact is we don't know.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • All4PSU said...

    So are you saying no one can ever improve? Is it hard to believe that maybe over the years BO'B has refined his schemes and offensive looks. I'd like to think success at the NFL level would carry more weight than his track record at 2 basketball schools.

    Charlie Weiss says hi. It's easy to design an offense around arguable the greatest QB in the history of the game of football. Maybe thats why every OC seems to have success in N.E. with Tom Brady. Let's wait and see what he does as a college HC and play caller.

    This post was edited by sneakypete on 6/28/2012 at 2:50 PM

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • jmisdamina said...

    Oh, that's why some people took the over. In that case I agree, over.

    In all seriousness in look at BOBs college track record. In 2001, his first year as QB coach, he had a SR in George Goodsey who threw for 23 TDs the year prior. Under BOB he threw for 18 and he had more experience and proven talent at WR then McGloin.

    In 2002 GT threw for 12TDs against 15 INTs which means they got worse.

    In two years as the OC at Duke the QBs threw a combined 17TDs. From 2004, the year prior to BOB, to 2005, BOBs first year the number dropped from 10 to 5 TD passess. The year after BOB left they threw for 21 TDs.

    His resume without Tom Brady, who was great well before BOB, does not ring out with genius.

    That 2001 team at GT also punched in 24 rushing TD's and put up nearly 2000 yards on the ground ( and that was with some cat named Joe Burns?) Godsey completed 65% of his passes for 3100 yards so he obviously could move the ball. In 2000, the year that the stats were "better" the team only rushed for 1600 yards and 21 TD's. Godsey had more TD's but less yards (2900). In 2002 they had a new QB and RB so I think it hard to compare.

    You can't just look at a stat. You have to look at the big picture. In 2001 the team had a better ground game. Maybe balls were caught at the 2 yard line and punched in. The fact is that those 2 years at GT, BO'B's offense scored 31 and 22 points a year. After last year I'd take the 22 and be happy, but I think we will do better.

    All4PSU

  • sneakypete said...

    Charlie Weiss says hi. It's easy to design an offense around arguable the greatest QB in the history of the game of football. Maybe thats why every OC seems to have success in N.E. with Tom Brady. Let's wait and see what he does as a college HC and play caller.

    I haven't anointed him as a guru, but I think being successful in the NFL, no matter who is your QB, can' hurt. He has a lot to prove. To his favor, he has the element of being new and different and his play book might just catch a few teams off guard. I think we will score 30+ TD's as an offense and will average around 24-27 pts a game. Play solid defense and we should find a respectable bowl come January.

    All4PSU

  • It depends on whether he finishes the season at QB. If he throws int. after int., then Jones will replace him and it will be under. If he plays the whole season then it will be over. He will be forced to throw due to defenses playing up and playing the run.

    drken22

  • jmisdamina said...

    Oh, that's why some people took the over. In that case I agree, over.

    In all seriousness in look at BOBs college track record. In 2001, his first year as QB coach, he had a SR in George Goodsey who threw for 23 TDs the year prior. Under BOB he threw for 18 and he had more experience and proven talent at WR then McGloin.

    In 2002 GT threw for 12TDs against 15 INTs which means they got worse.

    In two years as the OC at Duke the QBs threw a combined 17TDs. From 2004, the year prior to BOB, to 2005, BOBs first year the number dropped from 10 to 5 TD passess. The year after BOB left they threw for 21 TDs.

    His resume without Tom Brady, who was great well before BOB, does not ring out with genius.

    I'm happy to look at his college track record but why would I want to look at cherry picked stats.

    perfect

  • Under. After his second consecutive 3 int game midway through the season, he gets the hook.

    psu96

  • All4PSU said...

    That 2001 team at GT also punched in 24 rushing TD's and put up nearly 2000 yards on the ground ( and that was with some cat named Joe Burns?) Godsey completed 65% of his passes for 3100 yards so he obviously could move the ball. In 2000, the year that the stats were "better" the team only rushed for 1600 yards and 21 TD's. Godsey had more TD's but less yards (2900). In 2002 they had a new QB and RB so I think it hard to compare.

    You can't just look at a stat. You have to look at the big picture. In 2001 the team had a better ground game. Maybe balls were caught at the 2 yard line and punched in. The fact is that those 2 years at GT, BO'B's offense scored 31 and 22 points a year. After last year I'd take the 22 and be happy, but I think we will do better.

    First the question was in reponse to the OPs TD over/under.

    Second here are BOB stats in college as OC compared to year before him

    GT
    2000, year before BOB 32.2 PPG
    2001, BOB 31.2 PPG
    2002, BOB 21.5 PPG

    Duke
    2004, year before BOB 16.6 PPG
    2005, BOB 16.1 PPG
    2006, BOB 14.6 PPG

    The offenses got worse under BOB. His 29th ranked offense at GT in 2001 was the only time he had a top 90 offense. At the arguement well he's replacing Jay, its not like Duke had some great OC there prior to BOBs arriival.

    jmisdamina

  • philafan said...

    Touchdown passes for the West Scranton Gunslinger?

    I say over!

    I'll take the under Phila. If he keeps the job all season I hope it's over but I'm thinking Jones takes the job at some point. We shall see.

    Sloepoke20

  • jmisdamina said...

    First the question was in reponse to the OPs TD over/under.

    Second here are BOB stats in college as OC compared to year before him

    GT
    2000, year before BOB 32.2 PPG
    2001, BOB 31.2 PPG
    2002, BOB 21.5 PPG

    Duke
    2004, year before BOB 16.6 PPG
    2005, BOB 16.1 PPG
    2006, BOB 14.6 PPG

    The offenses got worse under BOB. His 29th ranked offense at GT in 2001 was the only time he had a top 90 offense. At the arguement well he's replacing Jay, its not like Duke had some great OC there prior to BOBs arriival.

    So he went down by 1 point a game with a returning QB and that's an issue? It's over 30 points a game! Where do I sign! Duke shouldn't even have a football program so I give no credence to those stats.

    The second year was with a new crop of players (QB,RB) so that is comparing apples to oranges.

    I'm willing to bet that MM will outperform his last year stats based on the sole fact that he is getting the reps and actually has someone there to coach him up. If he doesn't I'll pay for 3 months subscription for you. Willing to offer the same back?

    All4PSU

  • I could see him playing well early and potentially struggling in B1G play so that might play a role. PJ is certainly on the doorstep. We'll see.

    All4PSU

  • PUSH!

    PSUJT0409