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Bedford2108 said...
Mauti is having a better season than Hodges you dumbass. He is a 2 time Big Ten D player of the week and got a National Player of the Week. You spread the ball around more? Brown 35 catches, Smith 19 catches, next player 7. We have 6 players with double digit catches this season, 5 of which have over a 100 yards. You have 2 guys.
I'm not even going to read the homer's response, but he hasn't watched one single game. So, OSU spreads the ball out more and throws to the tight ends? Gotcha champ! LOL
PSU has 14 different players with at least one catch; 40 of those catches coming from the TE position
OSU has 11 different players with at least one catch, a whopping 17 catches coming from the tight end position.As you mentioned, they have two players with more than 10 catches, while PSU has six. Yep, those numbers support OSU spreading out the receiving distribution more than PSU.
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I'm not even going to read the homer's response, but he hasn't watched one single game. So, OSU spreads the ball out more and throws to the tight ends? Gotcha champ! LOL
PSU has 14 different players with at least one catch; 40 of those catches coming from the TE position OSU has 11 different players with at least one catch, a whopping 17 catches coming from the tight end position.
As you mentioned, they have two players with more than 10 catches, while PSU has six. Yep, those numbers support OSU spreading out the receiving distribution more than PSU.
What a joke.
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AllDay28 said...
Simon is having a better statistical year than Hankins too, yet Hankins will be a top ten draft pick. Statistics don't tell you who the more dangerous player is. Draft evaluators also agree that Hodges is the better player. How do I know more about your team than you do?
As far as us spreading the ball around more, you have 50 more completions than us and 80 more attempts. Looking through it as percent of plays, it looks like we are actually about even for spreading the ball around, so I do concede that point. But of course, you cherry picked that point out of the other valid ones I made.
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Right now Mauti is the most dangerous player on our team. He would be an All-American if the season ended right now. I can guarantee you don't know more about this team than I do. There was too many things wrong in your first post to point out every single one so I pointed out a few that stuck out. Another thing about the linebackers, I'm sure you will be seeing a lot more of Mike Hull against OSU who runs a 4.5-4.6 than Carson who is more of a traditional run stopper at 238. It's quite obvious you haven't really watched our games besides may be the highlights.
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...and your defensive unit is, by definition, average in the Big Ten. You are 6th in overall defense (2nd in scoring defense, but overall defense paints a better picture) and 6th is average in the league. That's with playing only one half way decent offense.
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Wait... BestoftheBigTen told us scoring defense is the better barometer. You guys need to get your stories straight. As far as playing one halfway decent offense, take away Nebraska and your five other opponents average 71st in the county in scoring offense. And with an NFL quality defense, you're ranked 92nd in the country in pass defense against that level of competition? How can that be?
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Mauti is having a better season than Hodges you dumbass. He is a 2 time Big Ten D player of the week and got a National Player of the Week. You spread the ball around more? Brown 35 catches, Smith 19 catches, next player 7. We have 6 players with double digit catches this season, 5 of which have over a 100 yards. You have 2 guys.
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AllDay28 said...
Scoring defense is certainly not the better barometer. People who think that are football illiterate.
As to your second point. We've had scheme problems. Fickell is a poor defensive play caller, IMO. We didn't blitz at all the first three games and sat back in soft zone. It allowed teams to put up a lot of yards on bubble screens against us. We've done a 180 in the play calling the last two games, though. With a far more pressure oriented defense. This helped us cause the turnovers against Nebraska even though we gave up way too many yards and it allowed us to completely dominate MSU up front and shut down Bell. And we've had really bad tackling out of our LB's. Shazier is fourth in the big ten in tackles (ahead of Mauti) but he's the only LB worth a damn. We've had major issues with our LB's and that's caused us to give up big plays. We've also had major issues with our second safety spot since Barnett went out. Barnett was pre season first team All Big Ten by almost every publication. But since he went out with injury three weeks ago his replacement has given up tons of big plays. In fact, his replacement is solely responsible for missed assignments on two of Nebraska's huge plays that lead to scores. Barnett is slated to be questionable for this weekend against Indiana, meaning he likely won't play, but should definitely be back when we play you.
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Listen, it's great PSU fans have a lot of enthusiasm, but we are head and shoulders better than you guys.
The defensive scheme and tackling has been pretty piss poor, but Nebraska also has the 16th best offense in the country. Far better than any other team that either of us have played offensively. Our dline is undoubtedly better than yours with a future top ten pick and first round pick. Our LB's stink beyond Shazier, which is a big part of our issues tackling, so I'll give you that. In the secondary we've given up big pass plays with people specifically picking on that second safety spot that currently has a backup playing, but Barnett will be back by the time we play you. Christian Bryant will be the best safety on the field and is a future first day NFL pick. Roby is a future first round CB pick and will be the best CB on the field in every game we play. He leads the big ten in passes defended with missing six quarters due to shoulder issues. And our other CB leads the big ten in picks.
Offensively, Braxton is easily a bigger threat than Mcgloin. Hyde will be the best running back on the field if healthy. He missed the two games before Nebraska and was banged up the first game, which is why he didn't have a lot of carries before the last two games. And both Corey Brown and Devin Smith are better receivers than anyone Penn State has. The oline is more of a toss up, but we blew up MSU's defensive line in the trenches and they are more talented than you are as a unit.
You guys are a decent defensive unit, but slow at the LB position as a unit which will hamper any effort to contain Braxton. Your Dline isn't good enough to be in the backfield to get at him before the play gets going. And secondary is your worst unit, which should allow brax to have a 200+ passing day on top of the ~100 rush yards he'll get. More than likely, the game won't even be close.
Before you ask, i've watched every one of your games this year.
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BestoftheBig said...
Well you are going to have far more receptions than OSU as we don't need to throw it a whole lot...if you were rushing for 200-300 yards a game you wouldn't throw as much either..
I guess my question would be what does all that offense get you? In other words, how many points are you putting on the board in comparison to OSU scoring without throwing the ball as much?
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Wait... BestoftheBigTen told us scoring defense is the better barometer. You guys need to get your stories straight. As far as playing one halfway decent offense, take away Nebraska and your five other opponents average 71st in the county in scoring offense. And with an NFL quality defense, you're ranked 92nd in the country in pass defense against that level of competition? How can that be?
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First of all, I'm not gonna argue with how you see your team and whatnot because I'll be honest and I haven't watched a single game of yours. How can you make conclusions about our team if you saw 2 games from start to finish including the first game of the season which people know what have greatly improved in almost every aspect of the game except for kicking. You would know that if you watched the games. Obviously Miller is more of a threat than McGloin, he makes up 70% of your offense. Our D-line isn't good enough to be in the backfield? Deion Barnes is an early favorite for Big Ten Freshman of the Year and he has been a rotational player. He has 3 sacks (same as Simon) and 5 TFL. What evidence do you have to say MSU d-line is better than ours? MSU has 5 sacks on the season, we have 14. You also talk about Hyde being the best RB on the field and he missed the first 2 games, well Zwinack had 3 carries in the first 3 games and now he has 317 yards. Hyde has one game over 100 yards, Zwinack has 2. Not saying Zwinack is better overall but right now Zwinack is playing better. If you only watched 2 games why did you say you watched every one in your first post???
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There's a reason scoring defense correlates better to wins than most other defensive statistics.
Frankly, I don't know how this is still going on. I do tend to get into arguments, but man, this is getting ridiculous.
Fact is, OSU has struggled at times and done very well at times. PSU has struggled at times and done very well at times. Even though we're halfway through the season, neither team really has enough data to say that many of these statistics are significant vs. products of the opponents they've played.
I think this is something people are just going to need to let go until the final score shows up 2.5 weeks from now.
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