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md154 said...
Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what he means by "i stopped it."
Couldn't that just be his own assumption that "because I made eye contact and saw JS back away...that means it stopped and that was because of me?"
I mean I still question what you did to stop it? did you physically go help the kid get away and wait for his parents? (doubtful since no report came of it) Did you question JS? Did you call the police? If you saw him raping the kid....and did none of the above....then saying "i stopped it" does nothing for me. You put a band-aid on a gun shot wound and still let the person bleed to death.
(FWIW, I haven't typically detroyed MM to this point and am sure his life is a mess right now, so i feel for him)
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NavyNJ said...
You're right about that.....the doc that was leaked/released was only the SUMMARY of the proceedings, not the TESITMONY or TRANSCRIPT. Do you think a GJ meets for almost 3 years (yes, I know they don't convene 5 days a week, 8 hrs a day, but still pretty regular) and only ends up with 23 or so pages of material?? That was the Cliff Notes of all Cliff Notes versions of what they heard. Hold onto your hat for all the rest of the crap that will start rolling out that wasn't detailed in that presentment!!
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strez said...
The reason MM and JP are no longer coaching and the other suits are out is because they collectively let the abuse continue for more than a decade. That's great that MM stopped the assault (I am a huge MM fan and he probably stopped the assault just by witnessing it), but the primary media outcry and real reason coaches are gone is because they all let Sandouchebag continue assaulting kids for another decade by not pressing the issue.
It's like the threads parsing words as to whether Paterno really *did* call the police by notifying Schultz. It doesn't matter. Once Schultz did nothing they should have called local authorities. Instead they collectively turned their heads for a decade and let JS continue to abuse kids and use team facilities. You can pick apart these nitpick facts, but the big picture is the problem. I think some people are having trouble seeing the forest through the trees.
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white_out said...
I don't think should have been leaked, but when it was they had no choice but to arrest Sandusky.
I honestly don't know if the full transcript will be released. It should be public record once the trial is over, but I'm not positive about that.
On a side note, the Attorney said he found the boy from 2002 and the boy says he was not sexually assaulted.
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appoo said...
I'm wondering if he stopped the crime before it happened? And what he actually told Paterno/Curley/Schultz? I mean, did this GJ take some creative liberties with what he said and translate it to mean "Believed to be a rape"? Just what the heck did McQuery actually see in there? Did he see Sandusky naked behind the child and then stop it before anything could happen?
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pennstatel0 said...
The GJ report was very specific and stated the McQ saw anal sex, and that they thought McQ testimony was credible. Could McQ have been mistaken?
Here is what I don't understand. Sandusky looks to be about 6'3". A 10 yo would be about 4'7". So Sandusky's genitals would be at about the same height as the kids shoulder blades. The boy was reportedly pinned against tthe wall so how does the sex occur?
Not that I really believe this but Sandusky's lawyer is saying he found the boy in question and the boy says there was no sex involved.
I suppose that I'm just grasping at straws here, but I'd like to think there is some reasonable explanation for McQ actions.
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Nittany Sluggo said...
Can somebody answer this because I think it is key to the McQuery aspect of the case. Who is the victim? Has he been identified? He has not testified. Because if this victim never comes forth this aspect of the case is all hearsay. There is no case as relates to this victim.
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helpdesk said...
The state could not determine who the victim was. JS's lawyer in the Costas interview stated that they believe they have located the individual and he will testify that the there was no sexual assault. That would mean the entire 2002 conspiracy/cover-up was bunk because there was no assault to cover-up.
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