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Offensive line coming together

  • http://pennstate.247sports.com/Article/Offensive-line-coming-together-69136

    Center Matt Stankiewitch breaks down what's different for Penn State's front five this spring.

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  • Going to the one OLine coach is the biggest move on the offense outside of BOB himself. I've been through the 2 OL coach crap and I cannot tell you how bad it is. Not to mention we have one of the best coaches in the game as our OL coach. This is going to be a great area to watch.

    Awesome report Jeff.

    MTayl72

  • Great article, Jeff.

    One thing I'd like to add to any discussion is that running a no huddle does not necessarily equal running a hurry up offense. Peyton Manning is the prime example of this, where he would hurry the team up to the line, but then snap it with only 1 or 2 seconds left on the clock. The key is that he COULD snap it at any point - and often did if the defense tried to move guys in and out.

    From the practices, it does sound like our no huddle is something of a hurry-up as well. Just saying it doesn't have to be.

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  • How in the heck can you watch film without the other parts of the O-line? That makes no sense one of the most important if not the most important parts of the line is communication and you used to split them up to watch film and do drills wow.

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  • MTayl72 said...

    Going to the one OLine coach is the biggest move on the offense outside of BOB himself. I've been through the 2 OL coach crap and I cannot tell you how bad it is. Not to mention we have one of the best coaches in the game as our OL coach. This is going to be a great area to watch.

    Awesome report Jeff.

    With Mac and Fitz working on these guys, I actually have high expectations for immediate results.

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  • psubills62 said...

    With Mac and Fitz working on these guys, I actually have high expectations for immediate results.

    Me too, I think this is the unit that will see the biggest improvement right away. BOB will help the QBs but it will take alittle more time. With a new S&C program and 1 coach I feel like our O-line will make big strides this season.

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  • PSUnFrank25 said...

    How in the heck can you watch film without the other parts of the O-line? That makes no sense one of the most important if not the most important parts of the line is communication and you used to split them up to watch film and do drills wow.

    It sucks. Believe me. It happened my Sr year and in my exit interview I told them it was something that completely retarded our OL growth that year.

    MTayl72

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  • At risk of sounding like a broken record, I LOVE the no huddle. I believe in Fitz and Co. to have all the guys, linemen included, conditioned to play at fast pace. Like Stank commented it keeps the D on its heels and allows the offense to be the one who is dictating play at all times. The days of 2 timeouts on one drive because we couldn't get a play call in are over. I think when Fall Camp rolls around they will have this offense humming.

    While I don't advocate an Oregon Spread, I would love to see something reminiscent of the K Gun that the Bills ran with incredible success in the early 90's. Show David Williams some footage of Thurman Thomas in his prime. Big time threat running and receiving.

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  • psubills makes a good point about the distinction between no-huddle and hurry-up.

    Based on the VERY limited sample of plays we've seen at practice, though, I think O'Brien is going for the hurry-up. The ball was snapped as soon as everyone was set. Forgot to add this, but Stankiewitch used the word "NASCAR" when talking about no-huddle, FWIW.

    Should be interesting to see how much freedom at the line O'Brien gives whoever winds up as the starting QB, too.

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  • Jeff Rice said...

    psubills makes a good point about the distinction between no-huddle and hurry-up.

    Based on the VERY limited sample of plays we've seen at practice, though, I think O'Brien is going for the hurry-up. The ball was snapped as soon as everyone was set. Forgot to add this, but Stankiewitch used the word "NASCAR" when talking about no-huddle, FWIW.

    Should be interesting to see how much freedom at the line O'Brien gives whoever winds up as the starting QB, too.

    Jeff are they using NASCAR tempo for the whole practice or just a segment? I would guess just a solid portion of it, but if its a smaller one it may just be a drill they fully want to use to get the guys used to a faster tempo. That can be good for a variety of reasons: In practice conditioning, breaking old habits, seeing how they think under pressure, installing a pace they may use for all/part of the game, or going extra fast in practice to put a no huddle in for a game.

    Either way, got to love the tempo. Fun to see.

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  • My understanding is that they've been mixing it up but started to pick up the pace more this past week.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Great article, Jeff.

    One thing I'd like to add to any discussion is that running a no huddle does not necessarily equal running a hurry up offense. Peyton Manning is the prime example of this, where he would hurry the team up to the line, but then snap it with only 1 or 2 seconds left on the clock. The key is that he COULD snap it at any point - and often did if the defense tried to move guys in and out.

    From the practices, it does sound like our no huddle is something of a hurry-up as well. Just saying it doesn't have to be.

    O'Brien has said he wants his QBs to snap the ball with 18-19 seconds left on the playclock.

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  • Jeff Rice said...

    psubills makes a good point about the distinction between no-huddle and hurry-up.

    Based on the VERY limited sample of plays we've seen at practice, though, I think O'Brien is going for the hurry-up. The ball was snapped as soon as everyone was set. Forgot to add this, but Stankiewitch used the word "NASCAR" when talking about no-huddle, FWIW.

    Should be interesting to see how much freedom at the line O'Brien gives whoever winds up as the starting QB, too.

    That's awesome - NASCAR.

    And I did notice from the video Sean put up that they're certainly hurrying the snaps. I was just making a general observation about the no huddle offense.

    This is just my opinion, but with our current collection of QB's, I'm not sure O'Brien would give them too much leeway. Once BOB's recruits start to take over the offense (Bench, Hack, etc.), I'd bet they'll be able to do more.

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    That's awesome - NASCAR.

    And I did notice from the video Sean put up that they're certainly hurrying the snaps. I was just making a general observation about the no huddle offense.

    This is just my opinion, but with our current collection of QB's, I'm not sure O'Brien would give them too much leeway. Once BOB's recruits start to take over the offense (Bench, Hack, etc.), I'd bet they'll be able to do more.

    It was a good observation and shows the difference between the 2. In our HS offense, we moved to the no-huddle spread, and wore wristbands with the plays on them. Now, my HS practically emulates Oregon (even having a Harley leading the team out on the field) and uses those play card signs.

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  • NASCAR as opposed to 14 wheeler.

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  • Had no one really never heard of NASCAR tempo? Serious question.

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  • MTayl72 said...

    Had no one really never heard of NASCAR tempo? Serious question.

    As a general term in football? No, I hadn't. Then again, I've never played football.

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  • psubills62 said...

    As a general term in football? No, I hadn't. Then again, I've never played football.

    I only asked because its a pretty common term for hurry up. We didn't use it in HS, but I know some did. In college we def used it, it was fun to holler NASCAR when we turned the tempo on. Really puts pressure on the D.

    MTayl72

  • psubills62 said...

    With Mac and Fitz working on these guys, I actually have high expectations for immediate results.

    Agree 100%. I expect the most noticeable improvement/change to be along the o-line. This could help the QB development tremendously through better protection and a more potent running game.

    ftlawdog

  • Good article about up-tempo no-huddle offense.

    The Future of the NFL: More Up-tempo No-huddle | Smart Football

    It's only a slight exaggeration to say that huddling is an archaism destined for the dustbin. I say it's a slight exaggeration because there is a value to

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