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  • Are the rumors legit? Also would Penn State be on the offensive end and redo his deal?

    EDIT: Let's contain the coaching vacancy discussion to this thread and the other premium thread, please. If you are going to post developments (or what you think are developments), please provide links to sources. Thanks. -- Jeff

    This post was edited by Jeff Rice on 12/31/2012 at 11:00 AM

    Jice17

  • Obrine? lol, can we stop these threads please?

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    JettaPSU2001

  • JettaPSU2001 said...

    Obrine? lol, can we stop these threads please?

    It's the seawater version.

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    psubills62

  • Jice17 said...

    Are the rumors legit? Also would Penn State be on the offensive end and redo his deal?

    Thought you heard around town he's in Philly today?

    Jackass. How many of these threads are you making today?

    MTayl72

  • And the drinking begins. coffee

    The Heel

  • Jice17 said...

    Are the rumors legit? Also would Penn State be on the offensive end and redo his deal?

    This is what I know. O'Brien has had some issues. He is not totally happy with things. His agent is listening and NFL teams are interested. However, I have been told it is doubtful he will leave, but it is not going to stop NFL teams from talking to him. O'Brien and his agent are pushing for some things. I heard he is really pushing to get his assistant coaches pay increases. He thinks they have to do twice as much work because of the NCAA ruling (esp. the free transfer rules). There are some other things he would like changed or modified. I still think he is back next year, but the door is still open a crack and people at PSU are concerned.

    MillerLatte

  • MillerLatte said...

    This is what I know. O'Brien has had some issues. He is not totally happy with things. His agent is listening and NFL teams are interested. However, I have been told it is doubtful he will leave, but it is not going to stop NFL teams from talking to him. O'Brien and his agent are pushing for some things. I heard he is really pushing to get his assistant coaches pay increases. He thinks they have to do twice as much work because of the NCAA ruling (esp. the free transfer rules). There are some other things he would like changed or modified. I still think he is back next year, but the door is still open a crack and people at PSU are concerned.

    Thanks for the info, Miller.

    Well, if PSU people do what O'Brien wants (frankly, based on what I've seen from him, I doubt his requests are that unreasonable), then there should be no concern. Really hope his requests get filled.

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    psubills62

  • MillerLatte said...

    This is what I know. O'Brien has had some issues. He is not totally happy with things. His agent is listening and NFL teams are interested. However, I have been told it is doubtful he will leave, but it is not going to stop NFL teams from talking to him. O'Brien and his agent are pushing for some things. I heard he is really pushing to get his assistant coaches pay increases. He thinks they have to do twice as much work because of the NCAA ruling (esp. the free transfer rules). There are some other things he would like changed or modified. I still think he is back next year, but the door is still open a crack and people at PSU are concerned.

    No doubt the staff deserves a raise. I'm tired of this program not paying assistants a fair market price. We are so far behind the curve on that one. Guys like Vandy or LJ are worth about 400-500k per year with their stellar track record. I'm sure they aren't getting paid that now.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion ●

  • MillerLatte said...

    I heard he is really pushing to get his assistant coaches pay increases. He thinks they have to do twice as much work because of the NCAA ruling (esp. the free transfer rules).

    Yet another reason why BOB is the right guy.

    Erickson: "So what does he want?"

    Joyner: "A raise for his assistant coaches."

    Erickson: "THAT BASTARD!"

    The Heel

  • MillerLatte said...

    This is what I know. O'Brien has had some issues. He is not totally happy with things. His agent is listening and NFL teams are interested. However, I have been told it is doubtful he will leave, but it is not going to stop NFL teams from talking to him. O'Brien and his agent are pushing for some things. I heard he is really pushing to get his assistant coaches pay increases. He thinks they have to do twice as much work because of the NCAA ruling (esp. the free transfer rules). There are some other things he would like changed or modified. I still think he is back next year, but the door is still open a crack and people at PSU are concerned.

    I believe you.

    If this school doesn't give OB what he wants........then I don't know what to say. I will be at a loss for words...........again.

    PSU17

  • Jice17 has a rating of 6! I've never seen a rating that low. Troll all the way.

    Nittany Sluggo

  • I am not sure that I understand the correlation between BOB being unhappy about a a few things and his agent talking, and the assistant coaches salaries? Why would that be a reason to leave? How does LJ and Vandy's salary make his agent talk. That makes little to no sense to me.

    drken22 ●

  • drken22 said...

    I am not sure that I understand the correlation between BOB being unhappy about a a few things and his agent talking, and the assistant coaches salaries? Why would that be a reason to leave? How does LJ and Vandy's salary make his agent talk. That makes little to no sense to me.

    If you cannot competitively pay your workers you have less of a chance at keeping them and attracting the top end guys if/when current ones leave. Its part of how a University shows dedication to win and invest in its program and reflects the level of program that one coaches for.

    MTayl72

  • drken22 said...

    I am not sure that I understand the correlation between BOB being unhappy about a a few things and his agent talking, and the assistant coaches salaries? Why would that be a reason to leave? How does LJ and Vandy's salary make his agent talk. That makes little to no sense to me.

    The same reason Bielema left for Arkansas, he couldn't retain his assistants at Wisconsin

    An Actual Lion

  • drken22 said...

    I am not sure that I understand the correlation between BOB being unhappy about a a few things and his agent talking, and the assistant coaches salaries? Why would that be a reason to leave? How does LJ and Vandy's salary make his agent talk. That makes little to no sense to me.

    You think he'd want to see his assistants leaving for other jobs because they aren't paid enough and they have to deal with sanctions? He hand-picked these guys. I don't see how this doesn't make sense.

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    psubills62

  • ESPN reported on sportscenter just now that Philly has been in contact with him. No real developments, they just gave him a call to gauge his interest is all they're saying.

    NitLionsGo

  • psubills62 said...

    You think he'd want to see his assistants leaving for other jobs because they aren't paid enough and they have to deal with sanctions? He hand-picked these guys. I don't see how this doesn't make sense.

    Um, the reply specifically stated LJ and Vandy. They were there before BOB, before sanctions, etc. Do they deserve more money - yes, but I can't see this being a reason why any coach would leave. Roof and other coaches have been there all of 1 year and we are supposed to throw money at them...and if we don't, BOB is gone?

    Not sure I would agree that Bielema left because of assistant coach's pay scale either.

    drken22 ●

  • drken22 said...

    Um, the reply specifically stated LJ and Vandy. They were there before BOB, before sanctions, etc. Do they deserve more money - yes, but I can't see this being a reason why any coach would leave. Roof and other coaches have been there all of 1 year and we are supposed to throw money at them...and if we don't, BOB is gone?

    Not sure I would agree that Bielema left because of assistant coach's pay scale either.

    You want the best, you pay for the best. Welcome to the business of college football.

    And it is one of the reasons that Bret specifically listed. Of course money for him is another reason. But look how many of his guys went down to Fayette in the same roles, or either other schools. They all pay better.

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    You want the best, you pay for the best. Welcome to the business of college football.

    And it is one of the reasons that Bret specifically listed. Of course money for him is another reason. But look how many of his guys went down to Fayette in the same roles, or either other schools. They all pay better.

    I agree with you Mtay. Especially with coaches with proven track records like LJ and Vandy. I agree that LJ and Vandy deserve an increase. But I also think that for LJ, it isn't always about the money (which I believe he has stated and is more credible than Bielema's comments) But for the rest of the coaching staff, what if we go out next year and have a 4-8 record? I am just a bit more conservative I guess and would like to see how they perform over at least some of the term of the CONTRACT that they agreed to. To me, I feel like BOB should ask for the coaches to be rewarded, but shouldn't be using it as a reason to be frustrated and possibly looking at other coaching jobs. Especially after 1 year.

    drken22 ●

  • MTayl72 said...

    You want the best, you pay for the best. Welcome to the business of college football.

    And it is one of the reasons that Bret specifically listed. Of course money for him is another reason. But look how many of his guys went down to Fayette in the same roles, or either other schools. They all pay better.

    That's all fine and good, but pardon me if I admire a coach for something other than his paycheck.

    F the NCAA F the BOT F ESPN F Sandusky

    PSU42Fan

  • drken22 said...

    I agree with you Mtay. Especially with coaches with proven track records like LJ and Vandy. I agree that LJ and Vandy deserve an increase. But I also think that for LJ, it isn't always about the money (which I believe he has stated and is more credible than Bielema's comments) But for the rest of the coaching staff, what if we go out next year and have a 4-8 record? I am just a bit more conservative I guess and would like to see how they perform over at least some of the term of the CONTRACT that they agreed to. To me, I feel like BOB should ask for the coaches to be rewarded, but shouldn't be using it as a reason to be frustrated and possibly looking at other coaching jobs. Especially after 1 year.

    You have good business sense, something that many on here are disregarding. I would be interested to know what he's not happy about after one season in which this fan base has anointed him the second coming and he has an 8 year contract at $2M per. I should be that unhappy.

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • Jice17 said...

    If you are going to post developments (or what you think are developments), please provide links to sources. Thanks. -- Jeff

    Says the guy who heard a rumor from a friend of a friends 2nd cousin.......

    We Are27731

  • Jice17 said...

    Are the rumors legit? Also would Penn State be on the offensive end and redo his deal?

    EDIT: Let's contain the coaching vacancy discussion to this thread and the other premium thread, please. If you are going to post developments (or what you think are developments), please provide links to sources. Thanks. -- Jeff

    Gee ... another thread posted by a troll. Couldn't you have just starting reading the 12-page thread on this same topic instead of starting another one?

    Hamilton Lion

  • fortheglory94 said...

    You have good business sense, something that many on here are disregarding. I would be interested to know what he's not happy about after one season in which this fan base has anointed him the second coming and he has an 8 year contract at $2M per. I should be that unhappy.

    And if he leaves what exactly is Penn State supposed to do? What coach would come here who would be anything close to O'Brien given the current sanctions? What other coach could hold on to a top 30 recruiting class? Penn State isn't in a position to be picky right now. They'd better do what they have to in order to keep BOB, because we won't be seeing anything close to 8-4 for another decade if we lose him. If his assistants start getting poached there's a good chance he's gone so we'd better make sure that doesn't happen, at least until the bowl ban ends.

    An Actual Lion

  • An Actual Lion said...

    And if he leaves what exactly is Penn State supposed to do? What coach would come here who would be anything close to O'Brien given the current sanctions? What other coach could hold on to a top 30 recruiting class? Penn State isn't in a position to be picky right now. They'd better do what they have to in order to keep BOB, because we won't be seeing anything close to 8-4 for another decade if we lose him. If his assistants start getting poached there's a good chance he's gone so we'd better make sure that doesn't happen, at least until the bowl ban ends.

    This ^^^

    Like it or not, BOB holds all the cards right now, and he has a royal flush. Time for PSU to pay up and give him whatever he wants, quickly.

    We Are27731

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