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  • BoulderFish said...

    So, while you may not see any value in supporting them -- I get that -- I don't see how there is value in discouraging, or disparaging, them either.

    Because he floods the board with announcements about these stupid rallies that aren't going to change a thing but give the perception to people visiting this board that Penn Staters still don't get it and aren't willing to accept what happened.

    He has a right to speak his mind on this. We have a right to tell him he's wasting his time and his actions are not helping the healing process.

    HolyLion

  • HolyLion said...

    Because he floods the board with announcements about these stupid rallies that aren't going to change a thing but give the perception to people visiting this board that Penn Staters still don't get it and aren't willing to accept what happened.

    He has a right to speak his mind on this. We have a right to tell him he's wasting his time and his actions are not helping the healing process.

    hey holylion, speak for yourself... let the person post... we have to read yours and don't say a peep

    qqqqq

  • qqqqq said...

    hey holylion, speak for yourself... let the person post... we have to read yours and don't say a peep

    Isn't that a peep?

    MTayl72

  • HolyLion said...

    Because he floods the board with announcements about these stupid rallies that aren't going to change a thing but give the perception to people visiting this board that Penn Staters still don't get it and aren't willing to accept what happened.

    He has a right to speak his mind on this. We have a right to tell him he's wasting his time and his actions are not helping the healing process.

    You flood the board with stupid posts that give the perception to people visiting that Penn Staters are idiots, and yet we don't discourage you from "flooding the board" with your stupid posts.

    (ok ok, jk... I honestly don't know if your MO is good, bad, smart, or dumb, but you kinda tee that one up, so I had to take it {grin})

    BoulderFish

  • How is asking the board to resign not getting it or not accepting what happened? They have zero responsibility for this mess?

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    JettaPSU2001

  • Didn't say you don't get it or accept it. I said it gives the perception to outsiders that we don't get it. Perception is reality.

    HolyLion

  • HolyLion said...

    Didn't say you don't get it or accept it. I said it gives the perception to outsiders that we don't get it. Perception is reality.

    You shouldn't really care what outsiders think. 45% of America thinks that Paterno may have abused those kids. The outsiders looking in really don't give a crap about this whole situation. They just like to stir the pot for their own pleasure. I can picture them giggling behind their computer writing this dribble that we keep seeing over and over.

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    Psu2011

  • Psu2011 said...

    You shouldn't really care what outsiders think. 45% of America thinks that Paterno may have abused those kids. The outsiders looking in really don't give a crap about this whole situation. They just like to stir the pot for their own pleasure. I can picture them giggling behind their computer writing this dribble that we keep seeing over and over.

    And without legitimate outside pressure the BOT will never move. They have no reason to. These little picnics won't change their mind. Neither will this imaginary escrow account I could go pledge seventy bajillion dollars toward. And especially not while having leaders that are only pro Paterno and/or think PSU has any case with the NCAA.

    This post was edited by MTayl72 on 10/23/2012 at 4:06 PM

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    And without legitimate outside pressure the BOT will never move. They have no reason to. These little picnics won't change their mind. Neither will this imaginary escrow account I could go pledge seventy bajillion dollars toward. And especially not while having leaders that are only pro Paterno and/or think PSU has any case with the NCAA.

    I guess... It seems as if the BoT has this death grip over the University.... MTayl72: Just out of curiosity, do you think the board needs to be replaced?

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    Psu2011

  • Psu2011 said...

    You shouldn't really care what outsiders think. 45% of America thinks that Paterno may have abused those kids. The outsiders looking in really don't give a crap about this whole situation. They just like to stir the pot for their own pleasure. I can picture them giggling behind their computer writing this dribble that we keep seeing over and over.

    The BOT is going no where - and it doesn't matter how many times Harris and his cardboard cutout get in front of a microphone.

    It's sad...it's really sad. People care and worry more about the "reputation" of a man that claims ignorance in regards to what sodomy is than children that were harmed by a monster

    FireJayPa

  • Psu2011 said...

    You shouldn't really care what outsiders think. 45% of America thinks that Paterno may have abused those kids. The outsiders looking in really don't give a crap about this whole situation. They just like to stir the pot for their own pleasure. I can picture them giggling behind their computer writing this dribble that we keep seeing over and over.

    Sorry, sir, but I do care what outsiders think of my Alma Mater. She had a damn fine reputation before this whole mess when down, and I would like to see it restored some day. Like it or not, Penn State has been tried in the court of public opinion, and she has been found guilty. That's the reality of the situation. We can put our head down, take the punishment and move on, or we can whine and moan about it and waste our time on silly rallies that do nothing but make outsiders think we're a bunch of whining pedophile apologists that don't mind little kids getting raped as long as we keep winning football games. That's the perception that's out there that we all have to deal with. Sorry to break the bad news to you. Maybe you don't care what outsiders think. Some of us do.

    HolyLion

  • Psu2011 said...

    I guess... It seems as if the BoT has this death grip over the University.... MTayl72: Just out of curiosity, do you think the board needs to be replaced?

    As I have said in this thread and every other one on this subject, anyone who was in the BOT last springtime should be long gone.

    MTayl72

  • HolyLion said...

    Because he floods the board with announcements about these stupid rallies that aren't going to change a thing but give the perception to people visiting this board that Penn Staters still don't get it and aren't willing to accept what happened.

    He has a right to speak his mind on this. We have a right to tell him he's wasting his time and his actions are not helping the healing process.

    Fact

    kpf5058

  • FireJayPa said...

    People care and worry more about the "reputation" of a man that claims ignorance in regards to what sodomy is than children that were harmed by a monster

    Based on this post alone, it's clear to be that you sir, are a f*cking moron. Beyond clueless.

    BoulderFish

  • HolyLion said...

    Sorry, sir, but I do care what outsiders think of my Alma Mater. She had a damn fine reputation before this whole mess when down, and I would like to see it restored some day. Like it or not, Penn State has been tried in the court of public opinion, and she has been found guilty. That's the reality of the situation. We can put our head down, take the punishment and move on, or we can whine and moan about it and waste our time on silly rallies that do nothing but make outsiders think we're a bunch of whining pedophile apologists that don't mind little kids getting raped as long as we keep winning football games. That's the perception that's out there that we all have to deal with. Sorry to break the bad news to you. Maybe you don't care what outsiders think. Some of us do.

    Wow. no

    BoulderFish

  • MTayl72 said...

    Something I'd suggest you stay the f*ck out of here boss. I have no issue with you in general, but this is a can of something you don't want to open.

    I gotcha ..... I just see some still upset over ESPN, or newspapers still talking about the stuff but when things like this planned protest are done, doesn't that keep it in the exact newspapers and ESPN's that they are sick of talking about it??

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  • You guys should hold the rally at the end of the President's house driveway (doesnt need to be on, you can do it right beside the driveway in that lawn area) as they have a big tailgate with donors/trustees every home game unless it is really bad weather outside, then it is held at the Penn Stater.

    You find out life's this game of inches, so is football. Because in either game, life or football-the margin for error is so small. -Pacino

    tmaluchnik

  • BestoftheBig said...

    I gotcha ..... I just see some still upset over ESPN, or newspapers still talking about the stuff but when things like this planned protest are done, doesn't that keep it in the exact newspapers and ESPN's that they are sick of talking about it??

    Alright, what the hell did you not understand in my original message?

    This post was edited by Seltz on 10/23/2012 at 8:38 PM

    MTayl72

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    This post was edited by Seltz on 10/23/2012 at 8:39 PM

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    BestoftheBig

  • BestoftheBig said...

    lynchmob

    Mission Accomplished

    This post was edited by MTayl72 on 10/23/2012 at 6:08 PM

    MTayl72

  • I banned BestoftheBig. If you want to continue any conversations with him, PM him.

    Andrew Dzurita

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    I banned BestoftheBig. If you want to continue any conversations with him, PM him.

    Thank you clap

    basebrad8

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    I banned BestoftheBig. If you want to continue any conversations with him, PM him.

    MTayl72 said...
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    "So the one guy (me) who hasn't given you non stop shit and tried to talk ball with you, you're gunna try to bust out.

    Deal. I'm gunna ruin you like the UAW did to Detroit. I'm going to have you thinking about hnging your sorry punk ass when you get home since you are a worthless piece of dog shit.

    You want to go, lets go.
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    Haha....Mtayl threatens to "ruin" someone and make them suicidal and you respond by banning that poster? BestoftheBig may be a troublemaker but MTayl needs a temporary ban, not a pat on the back by his buddy buddy moderator. Guy used to be a reasonable poster but has turned into a internet bully recently.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by psumichael on 10/23/2012 at 8:57 PM

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  • psumichael said...

    Haha....Mtayl threatens to "ruin" someone and make them suicidal and you respond by banning that poster? BestoftheBig may be a troublemaker but MTayl needs a temporary ban, not a pat on the back by his buddy buddy moderator. Guy used to be a reasonable poster but has turned into a internet bully recently.

    I see how it looks like that's what happened, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. I talked to him about the post you're referring to, forgot to edit it out with everything that ensued.

    We don't have any allegiances here. If you have anything further to say, PM me.

    This post was edited by Andrew Dzurita on 10/23/2012 at 8:27 PM

    Andrew Dzurita

  • psumichael said...

    Haha....Mtayl threatens to "ruin" someone and make them suicidal and you respond by banning that poster? BestoftheBig may be a troublemaker but MTayl needs a temporary ban, not a pat on the back by his buddy buddy moderator. Guy used to be a reasonable poster but has turned into a internet bully recently.

    Only to trolls. They aren't real people. I got what needed to be done. And apparently found a fan. I hadn't realized I was a bully to anyone.

    This post was edited by MTayl72 on 10/23/2012 at 8:29 PM

    MTayl72