The Lions' Pride

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arm strength matters if you have a small window to throw the ball deep because of oncoming pressure. MM NEEDS the space to windup, Bolden does not. Not a hard concept to grasp folks.

Firstly - should acknowledge that this 47 SECOND VIDEO where each QB showed ONE PASS EACH sparked yet another Bolden / McGloin fiasco.... Holy s**t... I hope none of us stir up such a debate at work or in school on such a small sample of our work...

In further pot stirring...
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Read on Scout that Jones is staying at PSU - not transferring due to academic issues.

I'm further encouraged (though not entirely fully/well informed I would imagine) that Jones isn't all that far off of what he needs to academically qualify.

The fact that he's staying, wants to get himself in shape in the classroom, and continue to compete encourages me greatly. That B&W game where he looked so natural and comfortable out there left me wanting so much more...

Nobody said you can't throw a deep ball without a strong arm....but the debate that some have been making is that Bolden is not built with a stronger arm, and that a strong arm has NO impact on down field passing, which is completely wrong.

I'm assuming you are talking about bombs of 55 yards. Once again, as we have already discussed....Bolden was not blessed with very good o-line protection so down field passing was not as much of a possibility early in the season. And again...we're comparing a true freshman with 6 games under his belt within 2 months of college......vs a guy who has been at the college level and speed for 3 years already.

Choosing a side is cool with me for who you want. Inaccuracies and exaggerations are ridiculous however.

Bolden 7 INT's 2 returned for TDs *low point: threw an INT for TD in back to back games(MM didnt)
McGloin 9 INT's 3 returned for TD's *low point: threw 2 INT's for TD in one game(RB didnt)

I find it humorous that people find the need to bash the opposite of the one they are 'backing'. If you have to do that, the guy you are supporting must not have done much on his own to use in support of him.

A Bolden supporting campaign can not be won by citing stats from last year. And the same holds true for MM. On the whole, they pretty much equal out in the overall.

They both had a few high points and a few low points.

Whoever we end up with had BETTER be improved, as they both left a lot to be desired last year...especially with consistency...especially against the better competition.

That was enough lol. I have disagreements in degree for only part the rest.

After commenting specifically to you on the INT 'sarcasm', I then wen on to repond the the thread, or topic in general, but using the word "people" in a plural sense. So the rest wasnt directed at you.

I would certainly disagree with your concluding sentence/comment, as I had a differing opinion

"+how many times do you think Joe let Bolden throw it deep? Most of his plays were designed for short gains and high percentage throws."

Bolden had deep routes available to him. Just not ready to take the chance IMO( I say it is a frosh thing). MM was more aggressive. Sometimes to his benefit, and also at times it hurt him to be sure.

My comments were in general to the thread after the INT misconception, which isnt specific to you either. Just didnt feel like posting to each and every one of the comments, so my bad there lol. Im 'teambolden' if anything, and still find the inaccuracies and exaggerations, or sarcasm even, to be ridiculous. A poor way to back a 'candidate'...reminds me of the political commercials spending their time telling me what the other guy has done wrong, and little about what that guy can do correctly/well/etc.

The difference is, to many, the results were VERY similar and we were comparing a true freshman with barely a sniff of practice under his belt compared to a guy who was in his 3rd year.

THAT is why people strongly do not want MM when you compare last year. I want RB in there regardless of last year due to physical skills already being there...now we just need to see if mental. I agree last year was a wash basically....but it's a wash of a true freshman vs a 3rd year player. (i know, didn't play much...but was around the playbook a TON more, college speed, etc..) So the fact that one could argue it was a wash, that doesn't bode well for MM in the debate. Sorry, just how I see it.

Where am I ripping the guy?>

Agreed.

I have zero problem with the underdog coming in and working hard to earn a scholarship and a place on the team.

I DO have a problem with a guy being cocky about it as soon as he sniffs an ounce of success. I loved Mills because he was similar to MM in that I don't think many looked at him as a potential star. But Mills had no attitude so I could easily support him. From the first moment I saw MM in a game (TD pass vs Minny), he came across as more than he is, and that annoys me.

I get he may not be a physical specimen at QB, so what.....you can live with that. But be real with yourself.

I wonder if he's learned anything from last year, especially that humbling bowl game.

I get what you are saying, but in addition to McGloin's interceptions were the many, many risky throws that could or even should have been intercepted. Against good teams, if McGloin doesn't change his penchant for making ill advised throws we're going to really struggle to even stay in the game.