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  • sneakypete said...

    So I should believe that a guy who was more concerned with ruining his bosses weekend then protecting a kid would stop it.

    He finally joined in. Surprised it took so long.

    miegoc

  • sneakypete said...

    So I should believe that a guy who was more concerned with ruining his bosses weekend then protecting a kid would stop it.

    Funny. You're using a quote from a guy you don't believe to trash the guy you don't believe. Picking and choosing which quotes are true, are you? Convenient how the ones you believe fit what you want to believe, while the ones you dismiss are the ones that don't.

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  • PSUjosh11 said...

    "Did you consider calling the police?" Posnanski asked.

    "To be honest with you, I didn't," Paterno responded. "This isn't my field. I didn't know what to do. I had not seen anything. Jerry didn't work for my anymore. I didn't have anything to do with him. I tried to look through the Penn State guidelines to see what I was supposed to do. It said that I was supposed to call Tim [Curley]. So I did."

    The vultures will have a field day with this quote. hammer

    He is being honest, cant fault him for that. I would love to see how the media tough guys would have handled this situation if it was unexpectedly presented into their life. My guess is 80% of america, if not more would have done exactly what Joe did.

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  • NevadaNittany said...

    He is being honest, cant fault him for that. I would love to see how the media tough guys would have handled this situation if it was unexpectedly presented into their life. My guess is 80% of america, if not more would have done exactly what Joe did.

    Completely agree. It's interesting how 100% of people who discuss this would have done the right thing, while 0% of people involved in the situation actually did. Somehow, that doesn't seem to cause people to question - just condemn. Oh, and not just this situation - Syracuse situation as well. A Michigan hospital had a similar situation, where the people who reported it didn't hear anything for 6 months and only banded together and reported it straight to the police after the PSU stuff came to light.

    But yeah, every internet blabbermouth would have stopped Sandusky. HINDSIGHT, PEOPLE.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Completely agree. It's interesting how 100% of people who discuss this would have done the right thing, while 0% of people involved in the situation actually did. Somehow, that doesn't seem to cause people to question - just condemn. Oh, and not just this situation - Syracuse situation as well. A Michigan hospital had a similar situation, where the people who reported it didn't hear anything for 6 months and only banded together and reported it straight to the police after the PSU stuff came to light.

    But yeah, every internet blabbermouth would have stopped Sandusky. HINDSIGHT, PEOPLE.

    You can't use logic in this situation. That's too reasonable for some people to understand.

    miegoc

  • sneakypete said...

    So I should believe that a guy who was more concerned with ruining his bosses weekend then protecting a kid would stop it.

    It's humane to wait until Sunday, because you know it's not like someone that read tons of greek history didn't know what Sodomy is

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  • Which police dept do you think Joe should have told him to call? The one that had jurisdiction, or another one? Would it not be safe to assume that knowing Curley and Schultz were going to be meeting with MM that this exact thing(the police getting involved) would take place?

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  • NCarolina-Nit said...

    Yes, very.... coffee

    Looking forward to grabbing this next week..

    preordered mine on iBooks (iTunes) last night.

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  • what pisses me off is that joe obviously didn't have evil intentions.. yet people will remember him as a bad person.. yes, he should have done more, but so should have all the other people who had witnessed these horrific acts first hand.. i think regardless joe died happy that he made a positive difference in so many people's lives, more than the majority of people..

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  • sneakypete said...

    So I should believe that a guy who was more concerned with ruining his bosses weekend then protecting a kid would stop it.

    Ahem, Paterno told his bosses about it on a Sunday morning; which, if I were a boss, I would easily consider the worst time possible to first hear of a report of possible sexual abuse of a child ocurring in my organization. The last time I checked everything that happens for the remainder of the day after Sunday morning is still part of the weekend, although how would I know that if maybe in your world you consider Sunday morning to be the start of the regular work week and for you the weekend consists only of Friday night and Saturday. I'm beginning to wonder what color the sky is in your world. A more reasonable assumption; Paterno was completely caught off guard by McQueary's report and needed some time to collect his thoughts and make a measured decision on what was the right thing to do next.

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  • RWC5113 said...

    And John McQueary, Dr. Dranov, and Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, and oh yeah... the guy who actually witnessed whatever the hell happened in Mike McQueary himself.

    So I guess that means that Mike McQueary, John McQueary, Dr. Dranov who may have been going against the law by not going to police when notified, Joe Paterno, Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, Graham Spanier, soon after Wendell Courtney and perhaps even more people - ALL cared SO MUCH about Penn State football (so much so that NONE of their e-mails, notes, or other records of communication even reference anything related to football) that several of them were willing to risk facing criminal charges, ruined reputations and in the case of Mike McQueary, a guilty conscience for the rest of his life. ALL because everyone was the biggest Penn State football fan ever, and coincidentially are of the most evil fabric known to man all in this one situation to "protect" a football program from a retired coach being arrested. (Because we all know when coaches get arrested or has their name tarnished, it sets the program back forever - just ask Missouri and Gary Pinkel, and Syracuse basketball).

    OR

    McQueary didn't see any rape. Was simply bothered by a man and child showering alone, and told his father and Dranov that night. And when the inquisitive mind of Dr. Dranov, who would sensibly ask the question "was it sexual?" since he is a doctor and may be required by law to report a potential crime against children, McQueary simply answered no since he saw no rape occur.

    I know which one makes sense to me.

    If someone came to me and said they believed they saw a crime being committed I would say call the police. Whether it was McQuery's father, Paterno or anyone else. Getting the facts and analyzing the situation is their job. Because many people including Paterno didn't use common sense, PSU is being harshly punished That's what makes sense to me.

    FlaLion

  • FlaLion said...

    If someone came to me and said they believed they saw a crime being committed I would say call the police. Whether it was McQuery's father, Paterno or anyone else. Getting the facts and analyzing the situation is their job. Because many people including Paterno didn't use common sense, PSU is being harshly punished That's what makes sense to me.

    Problem is had Paterno called the cops, even though Schultz is the one who oversees investigations, the case could have been dismissed.

    The law in PA is borderline stupid

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  • FlaLion said...

    If someone came to me and said they believed they saw a crime being committed I would say call the police. Whether it was McQuery's father, Paterno or anyone else. Getting the facts and analyzing the situation is their job. Because many people including Paterno didn't use common sense, PSU is being harshly punished That's what makes sense to me.

    And that is why I doubt that McQueary actually told Joe, or anyone that a crime was actually occurring.

    That seems much more likely than upwards of 10 people, including a former child abuse victim himself in Graham Spanier, and legal counsel Wendell Courtney, ALL individually coming to the decision to not call the police, if it was so obvious that a crime had a occurred.

    Like I said, I know what makes sense to me.

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  • RWC5113 said...

    And that is why I doubt that McQueary actually told Joe, or anyone that a crime was actually occurring.

    That seems much more likely than upwards of 10 people, including a former child abuse victim himself in Graham Spanier, and legal counsel Wendell Courtney, ALL individually coming to the decision to not call the police, if it was so obvious that a crime had a occurred.

    Like I said, I know what makes sense to me.

    I'm with you, but unfortunately what makes sense to us is called being in denial by others.

    miegoc

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