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McGloin named starting quarterback

  • jimscranton said...

    Dont be surpried if we are undefeated after OSU game, McGloin is the top rated QB in the Big 10 & everyone is calling BoB a genuis. Mark it down.

    interesting ... post from someone from Scranton with this comment. I wonder ...

    Hamilton Lion

  • jimscranton said...

    How about we give the kid a chance after he is able to get coached by a real QB coach, get the majority of snaps in practice, & not have to worry about getting taken out after a mistake he makes. Plus, shorter throws to receivers in space is the expected offense. Rather than throws to the sideline so our WR can go out of bounds. Dont be surpried if we are undefeated after OSU game, McGloin is the top rated QB in the Big 10 & everyone is calling BoB a genuis. Mark it down.

    Hahahahaha really surprised Scranton chimes in on the of the home town boy and forgetting about the type of person MM is.

    “Never trust a government that doesn't trust its own citizens with guns.” Benjamin Franklin

    psuproud

  • I have two fairly simple reasons for not liking McGloin

    1.) He's a cocky prick

    2.) He sucks

    jaz4234

  • I agree with Scrantonia to an extent....I'll root for him, but I'm skeptical.

    Short timing passes will help vs last year. A TE (or two) will help. Belton will help. Eugene Lewis?

    Now Matt - please just work on completing passes. And stay off twitter.

    How about a 58% completion percentage and a 2:1 TD:Int ratio, with over 200 yd / game? Against BCS teams.

    Best QB in the conference? I dunno. Give him a chance? He's had 2 years! And no scuffles.

    The comment on the sidelines...less about throwing out of bounds as throwing to the other team.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matt-mcgloin-1/splits/2011/

    Posas14

  • HolyLion said...

    9th in completions, attempts, and yards? 10th in TD's? He didn't even start the first half of the year, genius. And is his yds per attempt on him or the conservative offense?

    If you're going to spout the stats, spout the right ones and put them in context. He did not complete less than half his passes and he was not underwater in his TD:INT ratio. His mediocre record speaks for itself. There's no need to embellish it. He's not great, but he's not Rob Bolden 39% comp rate, 2 TD and 7 INT bad either. I'm not saying McGloin is the best quarterback in the Big Ten. I'm saying be fair to the kid.

    Now this is the point where everyone downvotes me and shouts "McGloin suck$ @ss!" I get it. Save your time. I admit he's not a good quarterback, but I'll take him over Anthony Morelli any day of the week. At least McGloin won a game in the Shoe. Y'all have some short memories. But what really sticks in my craw is when I see supposed PSU fans outright trashing a kid that puts on the Blue and White. That crap turns my stomach. Those of you outright hoping he fails have no concept of what it means to a Nittany Lion.

    They were both God awful last year. No sugar coating. By far the weakest position on the team.

    I'll grit my teeth and root for him. By the way, Morelli was better than McGloin.

    Posas14

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    NittanyAlum80

  • HolyLion said...

    Now this is the point where everyone downvotes me and shouts "McGloin suck$ @ss!" I get it. Save your time. I admit he's not a good quarterback, but I'll take him over Anthony Morelli any day of the week. At least McGloin won a game in the Shoe. Y'all have some short memories. But what really sticks in my craw is when I see supposed PSU fans outright trashing a kid that puts on the Blue and White. That crap turns my stomach. Those of you outright hoping he fails have no concept of what it means to a Nittany Lion.

    i am not hoping he does poorly, I know he will do poorly.

    And morelli sucked and still was a mile better than mcgloin

    jaz4234

  • Bolden should be the starter....

    kdog

  • jimscranton said...

    How about we give the kid a chance after he is able to get coached by a real QB coach, get the majority of snaps in practice, & not have to worry about getting taken out after a mistake he makes. Plus, shorter throws to receivers in space is the expected offense. Rather than throws to the sideline so our WR can go out of bounds. Dont be surpried if we are undefeated after OSU game, McGloin is the top rated QB in the Big 10 & everyone is calling BoB a genuis. Mark it down.

    Jimscranton is an idiot. Mark it down.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete

  • jaz4234 said...

    i am not hoping he does poorly, I know he will do poorly.

    And morelli sucked and still was a mile better than mcgloin

    Agree. Morelli is 10x better then McGloin and its not even debatable.

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    NavyNittany

  • psuproud said...

    Hahahahaha really surprised Scranton chimes in on the of the home town boy and forgetting about the type of person MM is.

    and what type of person is he? That's those are the comments that make my blood boil. Kid has done nothing but give 100% to this team...bailed us out of a jam two years ago and all you want to do is make assumptions based on here-say. Do you have a son who plays sports?

    TheBleedingLion

  • Do people think that once we get into the Big Ten schedule that defenses won't adjust to the short passes and start chucking our wr's at the line and dropping Lb's back a step to get into lanes? All you armchair coaches need to look at his history. Do you actually believe that having a new staff and a different playbook will increase his ability? It doesn't work that way. I know we are weak at QB, but I am pretty sure Jones could make dump offs too if that's what we are banking on. I think I would go with a young highly recruited player like Jones and hope he makes strides. MM has reached his potential.

    drken22

  • drken22 said...

    Do people think that once we get into the Big Ten schedule that defenses won't adjust to the short passes and start chucking our wr's at the line and dropping Lb's back a step to get into lanes? All you armchair coaches need to look at his history. Do you actually believe that having a new staff and a different playbook will increase his ability? It doesn't work that way. I know we are weak at QB, but I am pretty sure Jones could make dump offs too if that's what we are banking on. I think I would go with a young highly recruited player like Jones and hope he makes strides. MM has reached his potential.

    Just another armchair coch here, but history has also shown having a big arm doesn't autotmatically make you a superior QB. AM says hello. I'd take MM or Mills over Morelli any day of the week, but I'm just an armchair QB. AM never beat a big team or scared anyone off the line because he could chuck a long ball. History works both ways in this case. Teams are going to do exactly what you stated regardless of the QB. They aren't going to change things up for a rookie QB because they saw he can chuck the ball 50 yards on a rope. Hoping that PJ is the solution because of his arm doesn't make it so. As far as assuming he can make those dump offs, did you not see Bolden the last two years. He couldn't execute a screen to save his life and that is the same guy who leapfrogged PJ his frosh year after PJ had enrolled early. Sometimes big arm QB's struggle with the intermediate and short passing games. AM was so slow to read a play and had ZERO pocket presence, but man he was tall and had a great arm. Bolden has a great arm as well, but his struggles were almost identical to AM's.

    Having a big arm doesn't do you any good if you are limited mentally. At this point you have to think that is what has to be holding PJ back. We all know he is bigger, stronger, and has a bigger arm. I would say it's a safe bet that isn't a secret to the staff either. So why in the hell would they name MM the starter? It is an absolute no brainer to start PJ if it's close. He's younger and does have better physicl attributes, so why would a new HC go with MM? I'm amazed some can't even attempt to try and figure out why. They just know they don't want MM, but can't even deal with the reality that PJ may not be the QB of the future. We can hope he is until the cows come home, but it doesn't make it so. Why would an entire new QB coach and HC go with MM right now? These are paid professionals who coached at a fairly high level, but they lack this common sense gene apparently a few here have who are enamoured with an arm. I'm not thrilled MM is PSU's best option, but you have to start to question why PJ or RB can't beat him out by now.

    Playing for potential is exactly what PSU tried to do with RB and it did backfire. Who knows what happens if they don't name him starter from day one and ease him into the system. There is a lot more gray to naming a QB than just black and white reasons. Grasp of the playbook. Not just knowing the plays, but understading what read to make based on the D you see coming up to the LOS. Those are things that are learned in time, but a new HC is going to go with the guy he THINKS is on the same page with him or at least close to it. I have only ever really heard one person state that they are happy MM is the best PSU has, but quite a few have already started to deal with that reality. Quite a few still have hope that the QB fairly will deliver us a big time QB this year or next, I'm just not that optimistic about that.

    "One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."

    LaJollaLion

  • HolyLion said...

    If you're going to spout the stats, spout the right ones and put them in context.

    At least McGloin won a game in the Shoe.

    Saying McGloin won a game in the horse shoe is hilarious.

    We scored zero touchdowns with McGloin on the field.

    OSU: 10-18 0 TDs 1 Int 88 yards

    If not for the Wildcat we dont win that game.

    Thats the right stat put in the right context.

    The Heel

  • TheBleedingLion said...

    and what type of person is he? That's those are the comments that make my blood boil. Kid has done nothing but give 100% to this team...bailed us out of a jam two years ago and all you want to do is make assumptions based on here-say. Do you have a son who plays sports?

    Are you kidding me?

    He just threw the old staff (That gave him a chance in the first place) under the bus.

    Everytime they win a game it's me and everytime they lose its US with him.

    He got knocked out by a player on his own team that was trying to appologise to him at the time when just about the entire world's eyes were on us.

    This isnt heresay. This is who he is based on what he's done.

    I have two sons that play sports and if they acted anything like McGloin they wouldnt play anymore.

    The Heel

  • I never said anything about Morelli or Bolden, although Bolden looked good before his concussion as a freshman. Not sure what happened to him. Anyways, I will support the team whoever the qb is, but feel MM limits our potential to evolve and get better. Besides, I am pretty sure MM is only like 5' 11" isn't he? This will be a problem in everyone's quick passing scheme. My point in this whole discussion is that, IMO, I can't see MM winning games. Yes, he will fair well against the likes of E. Mich., Northwestern, IU, but will continue to cost us against better competition.

    drken22

  • drken22 said...

    I never said anything about Morelli or Bolden, although Bolden looked good before his concussion as a freshman. Not sure what happened to him. Anyways, I will support the team whoever the qb is, but feel MM limits our potential to evolve and get better. Besides, I am pretty sure MM is only like 5' 11" isn't he? This will be a problem in everyone's quick passing scheme. My point in this whole discussion is that, IMO, I can't see MM winning games. Yes, he will fair well against the likes of E. Mich., Northwestern, IU, but will continue to cost us against better competition.

    So you think the guys who can't beat him out and never beat anyone will win more games? Saying MM can't win the big games is essentially saying NOBODY on the roster can. I'm assuming that is what you mean.

    "One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."

    LaJollaLion

  • LaJollaLion said...

    So you think the guys who can't beat him out and never beat anyone will win more games? Saying MM can't win the big games is essentially saying NOBODY on the roster can. I'm assuming that is what you mean.

    well then i will say it. NOBODY on the roster who can play QB can win big games

    jaz4234

  • The Heel said...

    Are you kidding me?

    He just threw the old staff (That gave him a chance in the first place) under the bus.

    Everytime they win a game it's me and everytime they lose its US with him.

    He got knocked out by a player on his own team that was trying to appologise to him at the time when just about the entire world's eyes were on us.

    This isnt heresay. This is who he is based on what he's done.

    I have two sons that play sports and if they acted anything like McGloin they wouldnt play anymore.

    He just threw the old staff (That gave him a chance in the first place) under the bus.

    Re: So has pretty much every one of you. Jay this, Jay that, Joe this, Joe that.....

    Everytime they win a game it's me and everytime they lose its US with him.

    Re: this is completely BS, I cant even believe your accusing him of that, site me these blatant examples please

    He got knocked out by a player on his own team that was trying to appologise to him at the time when just about the entire world's eyes were on us.

    Re: Complete Assumption, i heard another story, wasnt the apology you make it out to be, and much more was said. If you really need to know, i've heard from a few people that what really made our qb mad was the non-nonchalant attitude toward mistakes and losing by certain players who weren't considered team first players to begin with. Point is, you know no details, just making assumptions on here-say as i originally said

    I have two sons that play sports and if they acted anything like McGloin they wouldnt play anymore.

    Re: good luck, but a lot of people easily confuse passion and fire with cocky and arrogant.

    TheBleedingLion

  • jaz4234 said...

    well then i will say it. NOBODY on the roster who can play QB can win big games

    pretty much been the state of PS Football for quite a few years (minus the magical michael robinson year)

    TheBleedingLion

  • drken22 said...

    I never said anything about Morelli or Bolden, although Bolden looked good before his concussion as a freshman. Not sure what happened to him. Anyways, I will support the team whoever the qb is, but feel MM limits our potential to evolve and get better. Besides, I am pretty sure MM is only like 5' 11" isn't he? This will be a problem in everyone's quick passing scheme. My point in this whole discussion is that, IMO, I can't see MM winning games. Yes, he will fair well against the likes of E. Mich., Northwestern, IU, but will continue to cost us against better competition.

    Russel Wilson 5'11. And his team won the Big 10 title last year, are you saying heights a problem? because it wasn't for Russel Wilson. Well I guess it was promblem for him not being drafted earlier

    kdog

  • kdog said...

    Russel Wilson 5'11. And his team won the Big 10 title last year, are you saying heights a problem? because it wasn't for Russel Wilson. Well I guess it was promblem for him not being drafted earlier

    Wilson was very good at play-action and rolling out of the pocket, which mitigates the height issue (not being able to see over the linemen). McGloin can do those things, but I wouldn't say they're necessarily strengths of his.

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    psubills62

  • drken22 said...

    I never said anything about Morelli or Bolden, although Bolden looked good before his concussion as a freshman. Not sure what happened to him. Anyways, I will support the team whoever the qb is, but feel MM limits our potential to evolve and get better. Besides, I am pretty sure MM is only like 5' 11' isn't he? This will be a problem in everyone's quick passing scheme. My point in this whole discussion is that, IMO, I can't see MM winning games. Yes, he will fair well against the likes of E. Mich., Northwestern, IU, but will continue to cost us against better competition.

    Bolden was never good. You (and some others) just graded him on a humongous curve that first year since he was a true freshman. As long as there were intermittent flashes of potential (no matter how isolated), people could talk themselves into Bolden eventually pulling it together.

    Yeah, we might not beat the best competition with MM as the starter. But guess what? PJ's not going to win those games either. And some of those "gimmes" you listed may not be wins with him at the helm.

    ams533

  • TheBleedingLion said...

    He just threw the old staff (That gave him a chance in the first place) under the bus.

    Re: So has pretty much every one of you. Jay this, Jay that, Joe this, Joe that.....

    Everytime they win a game it's me and everytime they lose its US with him.

    Re: this is completely BS, I cant even believe your accusing him of that, site me these blatant examples please

    He got knocked out by a player on his own team that was trying to appologise to him at the time when just about the entire world's eyes were on us.

    Re: Complete Assumption, i heard another story, wasnt the apology you make it out to be, and much more was said. If you really need to know, i've heard from a few people that what really made our qb mad was the non-nonchalant attitude toward mistakes and losing by certain players who weren't considered team first players to begin with. Point is, you know no details, just making assumptions on here-say as i originally said

    I have two sons that play sports and if they acted anything like McGloin they wouldnt play anymore.

    Re: good luck, but a lot of people easily confuse passion and fire with cocky and arrogant.

    Your info on Drake and McGloin is VERY incorrect.

    Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen

    sneakypete