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  • "We're excited; more blitzing. He's a high energy coach; a great teacher. Alot of energy...fly around and make tackles. Guys are getting used to the terminology...I really think the sky is the limit for the linebackers."

    I love the fact that we are blitzing a hell of a lot more. Showing different looks and schemes. cheers

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    PSUjosh11

  • I like that they are going to blitz more however I'm concerned with the DBs ability to cover when the pressure doesn't work.

    PSUJT0409

  • I won't know what to do with myself if we have an offense and defense that attack the opponent instead of playing it safe and hoping the other guy makes mistakes. panic

    HolyLion

  • I expect our D to give up more points and yards this year, HOWEVER, I also expect them to create more turnovers and game changing plays which will lead to more points for our offense and give the team more momentum. I am definitely excited.

    rummel49

  • I am more concerned about improving the efficiency of our blitzes than the sheer number of times we blitz. Last year especially, I felt our blitzes were poorly disguised and executed. LBs oftentimes got caught up in the wash of linemen in the middle unable to get to the QB or they took outside rush angles that left huge holes for the QB to step out of trouble. It seemed as though opponents converted way too many third downs because of this.

    The good news for this year is that opponents won't be able to rely on our tendencies as much as they have in the past.

    Ramblewood1

  • PSUjosh11 said...

    "We're excited; more blitzing. He's a high energy coach; a great teacher. Alot of energy...fly around and make tackles. Guys are getting used to the terminology...I really think the sky is the limit for the linebackers."

    I love the fact that we are blitzing a hell of a lot more. Showing different looks and schemes. cheers

    Josh, who is "He" that is referenced. I assume Roof?

    JDpsu

  • Ramblewood said...

    I am more concerned about improving the efficiency of our blitzes than the sheer number of times we blitz. Last year especially, I felt our blitzes were poorly disguised and executed. LBs oftentimes got caught up in the wash of linemen in the middle unable to get to the QB or they took outside rush angles that left huge holes for the QB to step out of trouble. It seemed as though opponents converted way too many third downs because of this.

    The good news for this year is that opponents won't be able to rely on our tendencies as much as they have in the past.

    Tfwiw, this morning Bill King stated that the coaching change/DC choice has him more fearful for our defense then any year he can remember since he began covering PSU football.

    PSUbacon

  • PSUbacon said...

    Tfwiw, this morning Bill King stated that the coaching change/DC choice has him more fearful for our defense then any year he can remember since he began covering PSU football.

    I'm literally terrified of Ted Roof running a similar defense to what he ran in Auburn.

    Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

    appoo

  • JDpsu said...

    Josh, who is "He" that is referenced. I assume Roof?

    I would assume he's referencing Ted Roof.

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  • appoo said...

    I'm literally terrified of Ted Roof running a similar defense to what he ran in Auburn.

    I support Roof - but I just don't see how there is any way he actually improves the defensive performance we're used to. We'll probably see a drop off in overall production, it just depends on how much.

    On the other hand, I fully expect the O to be a whole lot more productive. I just hope its a net gain for the team.

    This post was edited by PSU17 on 4/10/2012 at 11:01 AM

    PSU17

  • PSUJT$ said...

    I like that they are going to blitz more however I'm concerned with the DBs ability to cover when the pressure doesn't work.

    The B1G lacks a lot of quality at the QB position, so there are only a few programs who could potentially capitalize on that premise...most notably Wisconsin. Nebraska and OSU certainly aren't going to beat us through the air.

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    tdiddy

  • PSUbacon said...

    Tfwiw, this morning Bill King stated that the coaching change/DC choice has him more fearful for our defense then any year he can remember since he began covering PSU football.

    fearful in a good way or fearful that the D will be horrible?

    This post was edited by Nittny65 on 4/10/2012 at 11:12 AM

    Nittny65

  • It is not just a good QB that can hurt you when you blitz. Even if you only blitz one linebacker, you are eliminating 1/3 of your second level. A lot of big runs occur when you catch the D in a blitz and block it correctly. Especially if your secondary is chasing people in man coverage.

    This post was edited by realoldman on 4/10/2012 at 11:19 AM

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  • tdiddy said...

    The B1G lacks a lot of quality at the QB position, so there are only a few programs who could potentially capitalize on that premise...most notably Wisconsin. Nebraska and OSU certainly aren't going to beat us through the air.

    They can't, but the smaller programs actually can toss the rock. Ohio and Virginia certainly can, Illinois always has a few good WRs to go along with Schalhaase, we know NW can throw it (though I forget if they're on our schedule), and Purdue & Iowa always have a pro-style QB who can at least throw the ball down field.

    On defense, my philosophy is that unless you're forced to take a risk, you shouldn't. My biggest criticism with SEC defenses outside of Alabama, is that they take a lot of unneccesary risks. If you watch alabama, they rarely blitz their ILBs, and often don't blitz more than 2 to bring 5. They talk about alabama blitzing off the bus, but in reality it's actually pretty safe defense, because 95% of the time their players are better than the opposing players, and the only way they get beat is if they leave themselves open - which is almost never.

    This post was edited by appoo on 4/10/2012 at 11:08 AM

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    appoo

  • appoo said...

    They can't, but the smaller programs actually can toss the rock. Ohio and Virginia certainly can, Illinois always has a few good WRs to go along with Schalhaase, we know NW can throw it (though I forget if they're on our schedule), and Purdue & Iowa always have a pro-style QB who can at least throw the ball down field.

    On defense, my philosophy is that unless you're forced to take a risk, you shouldn't. My biggest criticism with SEC defenses outside of Alabama, is that they take a lot of unneccesary risks. If you watch alabama, they rarely blitz their ILBs, and often don't blitz more than 2 to bring 5. They talk about alabama blitzing off the bus, but in reality it's actually pretty safe defense, because 95% of the time their players are better than the opposing players, and the only way they get beat is if they leave themselves open - which is almost never.

    Appoo I agree. I will just say that Illinois is dead at WR this year. Talk is that they'll need to have multiple DBs play both waya to get a somewhat quality depth chart.

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    Appoo I agree. I will just say that Illinois is dead at WR this year. Talk is that they'll need to have multiple DBs play both waya to get a somewhat quality depth chart.

    Ha, that sounds like PSU in 03. Worst set of WRs in PSU history, and we literally had multiple DBs sliding over to offense half way into the season.

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    appoo

  • I definitely expect a dropoff in our D. It goes back to what MTay said yesterday. In a 4-3 more blitzing = bad b/c it means we can't get pressure with our front 4 & will leave our weak secondary exposed. That in turn will lead to giving up more big plays & more points.

    On the other hand, I will be happy to see an end to our DB's playing 7 yards off the line on 3rd&4 and giving up easy 1st downs.

    I trust LJ & Vandy to keep our front 7 productive & in a position to succeed. Hopefully with a modern & productive offense we won't have to rely solely on our D to win every game anymore.

    It has been excruciating knowing that if our D gives up more than 21 or so points it will be tough for our offense to keep pace, especially when playing from behind.

    This post was edited by rck127 on 4/10/2012 at 11:25 AM

    rck127

  • I agree with all here. Just forfeit the season now and start recruiting the next class. Don't bother playing as PSU will surrender 40+ a game. The O will never come close to scoring that many given the lack of talent at QB. I'd rather see the D sit back and give up the 7-15 yds per play and slow the game down.

    Solo

  • appoo said...

    Ha, that sounds like PSU in 03. Worst set of WRs in PSU history, and we literally had multiple DBs sliding over to offense half way into the season.

    Rubin? He wasn't THAT bad

    FireJayPa

  • I think inevitably we will have to change our mindsets. With the fact that tempo seems to be BOB's rallying cry, it's unrealistic to think that we could have a defense as good as we've had historically. BOB is an offensive coach, and the playcalling and style will reflect that. The defense will be asked to just be good enough, but the offense will be charged with winning games in the ideal world. This is completely opposite from what we are used to here, but change can no doubt be good.

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • fortheglory94 said...

    I think inevitably we will have to change our mindsets. With the fact that tempo seems to be BOB's rallying cry, it's unrealistic to think that we could have a defense as good as we've had historically. BOB is an offensive coach, and the playcalling and style will reflect that. The defense will be asked to just be good enough, but the offense will be charged with winning games in the ideal world. This is completely opposite from what we are used to here, but change can no doubt be good.

    I don't agree with that premise. Yes, change is happening and we will need to alter our mindsets. But, I don't think assumptions in either direction are necessary until we see how the personnel adjusts. Even with an offensive coach preaching lightning pace, the O will not need to accomplish much to exceed the past two years' productivity. How much better could have our defense been without being repeatedly thrown onto the field for 40 minutes or with their backs against the wall after TO's? A successful offense and/or heavier offensive emphasis doesn't necessarily doom the defense. It gives them the opportunity to loosen the shackles and be more aggressive. They could allow a few more yards or points and actually have a more significant impact on the outcome of the game through big plays.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by tdiddy on 4/10/2012 at 11:58 AM

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    tdiddy

  • A different defensive approach is refreshing, but we will probably give up more big plays considering more man coverage and blitzing.

    I'm interested to see how it works.

    If winning was easy even losers would do it.

    Lang06

  • What about the underneath passes that turned into huge plays...I recall USC killing us with those kinds of passes. They threw underneath the zone and wracked up huge RAC yardage.

    wideout

  • I don't think blitzing out of a 4-3 is nearly as dangerous as being predictable. You can put 7 guys in coverage if you want, but if it's the same cover 2 or cover 3 zones it's not difficult for good offenses to pick apart (see '11 Wisconsin, 08 USC). Even mediocre spread attacks give us fits. Northwestern and Temple are always able to stretch us laterally and Illinois destroyed us two years ago largely because they had so much success stretching us laterally. I don't think the defense has been as good recently as everyone makes it out to be, and I'm all for changing things up and getting aggressive.

    That said, whenever I think of a Ted Roof defense, all I see is Julio Jones running down the sideline with no one within 20 yards of him in the 2010 Iron Bowl

    An Actual Lion

  • An Actual Lion said...

    I don't think blitzing out of a 4-3 is nearly as dangerous as being predictable. You can put 7 guys in coverage if you want, but if it's the same cover 2 or cover 3 zones it's not difficult for good offenses to pick apart (see '11 Wisconsin, 08 USC). Even mediocre spread attacks give us fits. Northwestern and Temple are always able to stretch us laterally and Illinois destroyed us two years ago largely because they had so much success stretching us laterally. I don't think the defense has been as good recently as everyone makes it out to be, and I'm all for changing things up and getting aggressive.

    That said, whenever I think of a Ted Roof defense, all I see is Julio Jones running down the sideline with no one within 20 yards of him in the 2010 Iron Bowl

    IMO Wisconsin killed us because Wilson was so good on third downs and buying extra time with his legs. Overall I feel the big down falls against USC or Houston among others was our desire to not change out of our base packages. USC especially put the safeties and LBs in one on ones with their wrs and chewed us up. Joe and Tom usually did a decent job of making halftime adjustments but often were unwilling to make changes before then. Overall the blitz talk is over rated. There is no perfect formula or everybody would have it by now. You can be a very suffocating D by being blitz heavy. That being said front four pressure is key to pick your spots with the blitz. Bradley was excellent at coaching his or Joe's scheme. For the most part it was easier to coach and recruit for. But Bradley, Vandy and LJ deserve alot of credit for its success. Roof will have a harder time coaching up his style because the timing and teamwork is more precise. If he does it sucessfully the D could be as nasty or nastier than before. There is also a huge risk with roof's system as has been noted with Auburn last year. Bottom line we have no idea how Penn St's D will look nor its O. I personally expect the D still to be the strength this year. Just because we have the more proven commodities on that side of that ball.

    Gunslinger317