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  • Jfelt said...

    I might have misunderstood the directions. I looked at it more like the twenty kids I would like to take in this class. I did put them in order of a need/talent with the exception of Mahon (I learned how to spell his name). To my knowledge, he was the only kid without a scholarship that I absolutely wanted but wasn't sure would be aloud given the directions. I just tried to sneak him in at the end!

    I think Foster is a complete game changer. Not so sure we have a legitimate chance to land him but if the planets aligned, it would be THE homerun of the class IMO.

    As far as Burns vs Hackenberg, I really like them both. I picked Burns and excluded Hackenberg for two reasons. One, I know we're only going to end up with one of them and I like Burns' raw mechanics a little more than Heckenberg's (mostly the throwing motion). I agree that Hackenberg is more polished. Two, I guess I would just like to see where O'Brien and Fisher could take Burns. I think we win with either one.

    I can see why there are allot of people torn on Issah, especailly with the film that's out there. I've had a chance to see this kid play and IMHO the film doesn't do him any favors. I might fall into the "homer" catagory but I really believe he comes in between Azalone and Deeb.

    Lastly, I'm just an armchair QB who benefits from the knowledge the rest of you guys have who know what your'e talking about.

    I honestly didn't mean any disrespect, I hope you know that. A lot of the lists are close to being the same, and I saw yours and it had some interesting points in it. I truly meant that there are no wrong answers to this.

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  • MTayl72 said...

    I honestly didn't mean any disrespect, I hope you know that. A lot of the lists are close to being the same, and I saw yours and it had some interesting points in it. I truly meant that there are no wrong answers to this.

    No, I appreciate the feedback! Absolutely no worries!

    Jfelt

  • 1) Adam Breneman - TE - Camp Hill (Pa.) Cedar Cliff
    2) Christian Hackenberg - QB - Fork Union (Va.) Military
    3) Alex Anzalone - LB - Wyomissing (Pa.)
    4) Robert Foster - WR - Monaca (Pa.) Central Valley
    5) David Williams - RB - Philadelphia (Pa.) West Catholic
    6) Ryan Burns - QB - Ashburn (Va.) Stone Bridge
    7) Ryan Switzer - Ath. - Charleston (W.Va.) George Washington
    8) Garrett Sickels - DE - Little Silver (N.J.) Red Bank Regional
    9) Michael Deeb - Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) American Heritage
    10) Brendan Mahon
    11) DeVeon Smith - RB - Warren (Ohio) Howland
    12) Eddie Vanderdoes - DT - Auburn (Calif.) Placer
    13) Devin Butler - CB - Washington (D.C.) Gonzaga
    14) Jonathan Allen - Ashburn (Va.) Stone Bridge
    15) Tim Kimbrough - Indianapolis (Ind.) Warren Central
    16) Buddy Brown - LB - Williamstown (N.J.)
    17) Dorian Johnson - OT - Belle Vernon (Pa.)
    18) Zayd Issah - Harrisburg (Pa.) Central Dauphin
    19) Greg Webb - Sicklerville (N.J.) Timber Creek
    20) Ross Douglas - CB - Avon (Ohio)

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  • 1. Christian Hackenberg
    2. Adam Breneman
    3. Robert Foster
    4. Jonathon Allen
    5. David Williams
    6. Alex Anzalone
    7. Greg Webb
    8. Ryan Burns
    9. Mike McGlinchey
    10. Dorian Johnson
    11. Devin Butler
    12. Ryan Switzer
    13. DeVeon Smith
    14. Ross Douglas
    15. Darian Hicks
    16. Brendan Mahon
    17. Garrett Sickles
    18. Buddy Brown
    19. Donovan Munger
    20. Zayd Issah

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  • 1.Adam Breneman
    2. Christian Hackenberg
    3. Alex Anzalone
    4. Ryan Burns
    5. David Williams
    6. Dorian Johnson
    7. Ryan Switzer
    8. Garrett Sickles
    9. Devin Butler
    10. Eddie Vanderdoes
    11. DeVeon Smith
    12. Darian Hicks
    13. Ross Douglas
    14. Tashawn Bower
    15. Marcus Newby
    16. Zayd Issah
    17. Gregg Webb
    18. Robert Foster
    19. Tyler Boyd
    20. Tim Kimbrough

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  • Looked at need and talent with less on interest because I think it is to early to say what interest will really exist when it matters. Many are not likely if their interest does not change but why not try. Didn't include Burns as only one QB on the list - Hack or Burns are the preferred choice..but had to pick one.....

    1. Christian Hackenberg - QB - Fork Union (Va.) Military
    2. Adam Breneman - TE - Camp Hill (Pa.) Cedar Cliff
    3. David Williams - RB - Philadelphia (Pa.) West Catholic
    4. Kendall Fuller – CB – Olney, (Md) Good Counsel
    5. Darian Hicks - CB - Solon (Ohio)
    6. Jonathan Allen – DE - Ashburn (Va.) Stone Bridge
    7. Eddie Vanderdoes - DT - Auburn (Calif.) Placer
    8. Robert Foster - WR - Monaca (Pa.) Central Valley
    9. Ethan Pocic – OT – Lemont (IL) – Lemont twp
    10. Mike McGlinchey – OT - Philadelphia (Pa.) William Penn Charter
    11. Tim Kimbrough – MLB - Indianapolis (IN) Warren Central
    12. Alex Anzalone - OLB - Wyomissing (Pa.)
    13. Ryan Switzer - WR. - Charleston (W.Va.) George Washington
    14. DeVeon Smith - RB - Warren (Ohio) Howland
    15. Dajaun Drennon - DE - Sicklerville (N.J.) Timber Creek
    16. Dorian Johnson - OT - Belle Vernon (Pa.)
    17. Tim Harris – S – Richmond (VA) – Varina
    18. Brendan Mahon – OG – Randolph (NJ) – Randolph
    19. Ben Gedeon – OLB – Hudson (OH) – Hudson
    20. Greg Webb - Sicklerville (N.J.) Timber Creek

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  • Seltz said...

    1.Adam Breneman
    2. Christian Hackenberg
    3. Alex Anzalone
    4. Ryan Burns
    5. David Williams
    6. Dorian Johnson
    7. Ryan Switzer
    8. Garrett Sickles
    9. Devin Butler
    10. Eddie Vanderdoes
    11. DeVeon Smith
    12. Darian Hicks
    13. Ross Douglas
    14. Tashawn Bower
    15. Marcus Newby
    16. Zayd Issah
    17. Gregg Webb
    18. Robert Foster
    19. Tyler Boyd
    20. Tim Kimbrough

    I had a little trouble with where to put Switzer. I thought about having him as high as 7. Newby and Bower were two guys that almost made my list. I didn't like Newby as much as I thought I would based on his rating. He wasn't quite as fast and explosive as I though he'd be. He's very similar to Issah and since I had him on I couldnt justify having Newby also. What are your thoughts on McGlinchey? I like his upside with the strength program in place and Mac as the OLine coach. Could see him turn into a 6'9 325-335 pound, quality RT. Drennon was another guy I really wanted to add but didn't have room since I had Allen (my pipe dream of the early year) and Sickels already on the list.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Sloepoke20 on 2/27/2012 at 8:36 PM

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  • 1. Christian Hackenberg
    2. David Williams
    3. Adam Breneman
    4. Robert Foster
    5.Devin Butler
    6. Alex Anzalone
    7. Ryan Switzer
    8.Devin Butler
    9. Greg Webb
    10. Garrett Sickels
    11. Ryan Burns
    12. Marcus Newby
    13. Jonthan Allen
    14. Dorian Johnson
    15. Mike McGlinchy
    16. Tim Kimbrough
    17. Eddie Vanderdoes
    18. Ross Douglass
    19. Ty Isaac
    20.Tashawn Bower

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  • 1. Christian Hackenberg - QB - Fork Union (Va.) Military
    2. Adam Breneman - TE - Camp Hill (Pa.) Cedar Cliff
    3. Robert Foster - WR - Monaca (Pa.) Central Valley
    4. Alex Anzalone - LB - Wyomissing (Pa.)
    5. David Williams - RB - Philadelphia (Pa.) West Catholic
    6. Tim Harris - S - Richmond (VA) Varina
    7. Ryan Switzer - Ath. - Charleston (W.Va.) George Washington
    8. Darian Hicks - CB - Solon (Ohio)
    9. Ross Douglas - CB - Avon (Ohio)
    10. Ryan Burns - QB - Ashburn (Va.) Stone Bridge
    11. Jonathan Allen -WDE- Ashburn (Va.) Stone Bridge
    12. Dorian Johnson - OT - Belle Vernon (Pa.)
    13. Eddie Vanderdoes - DT - Auburn (Calif.) Placer
    14. Buddy Brown - LB - Williamstown (N.J.)
    15. Mike McGlinchey -OT-Philadelphia (Pa.) William Penn Charter
    16. Michael Deeb -ILB- Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) American Heritage
    17. Brendan Mahon -OL- Randolph (NJ) Randolph
    18. Garrett Sickels - DE - Little Silver (N.J.) Red Bank Regional
    19. Devin Butler - CB - Washington (D.C.) Gonzaga
    20. Donovan Munger - OL/DL - Cleveland (Ohio) Shaker Heights

    This post was edited by The Heel on 2/28/2012 at 4:32 AM

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  • Sloepoke20 said...

    I had a little trouble with where to put Switzer. I thought about having him as high as 7. Newby and Bower were two guys that almost made my list. I didn't like Newby as much as I thought I would based on his rating. He wasn't quite as fast and explosive as I though he'd be. He's very similar to Issah and since I had him on I couldnt justify having Newby also. What are your thoughts on McGlinchey? I like his upside with the strength program in place and Mac as the OLine coach. Could see him turn into a 6'9 325-335 pound, quality RT. Drennon was another guy I really wanted to add but didn't have room since I had Allen (my pipe dream of the early year) and Sickels already on the list.

    I like Newby, as I think he has a couple Vorro B playing qualities, though I dont think of him as NB or at that level quite yet. I like Brown too(who I see I missed on here).

    McGlinchy is solid. I like the potential like you said.

    Seriously, by next month we will have more offers out likely. We will also maybe have an idea on a position or 2 more.

    I would definitely NOT have 2 QB's on my list. If one commits, the another spot opens up on my board as the other will drop off completely. I dont want 4 corners. Put a bunch on there as we need 2. We get 2, others drop off.

    Also the list certainly changes if some kids get offered. Averett, Kinlaw, Mahon, Montelus would certainly be on mine for example.

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  • Jfelt said...

    I think Foster is a complete game changer. Not so sure we have a legitimate chance to land him but if the planets aligned, it would be THE homerun of the class IMO.

    I agree 100 percent about Foster.

    But I have a good feeling about the kid. Especially if 1 and 2 on my list commit somewhat early.

    The Heel

  • Seltz said...

    I like Newby, as I think he has a couple Vorro B playing qualities, though I dont think of him as NB or at that level quite yet. I like Brown too(who I see I missed on here).

    McGlinchy is solid. I like the potential like you said.

    Seriously, by next month we will have more offers out likely. We will also maybe have an idea on a position or 2 more.

    I would definitely NOT have 2 QB's on my list. If one commits, the another spot opens up on my board as the other will drop off completely. I dont want 4 corners. Put a bunch on there as we need 2. We get 2, others drop off.

    Also the list certainly changes if some kids get offered. Averett, Kinlaw, Mahon, Montelus would certainly be on mine for example.

    Just because you want one QB over the other... doesnt mean that you dont have any interest in the other though.

    Sure you would love Hack... but if he falls off of the board you're then taking a guy thats not on your list at all and replacing him as number one?

    And are you saying if you like Hack you cant like Burns and are not allowed to have any interest in the guy at all and would not take him as well? (Yes, I know they wont be going to the same school.)

    As far as corners go, considering what we have right now and the scheme Roof is bringing, I think I'd certainly love to take 3 quality corners that give us the ability to possibly move Amos to safety and solve what we have going on there right now.

    The Heel

  • The Heel said...

    Just because you want one QB over the other... doesnt mean that you dont have any interest in the other though.

    Sure you would love Hack... but if he falls off of the board you're then taking a guy thats not on your list at all and replacing him as number one?

    And are you saying if you like Hack you cant like Burns and are not allowed to have any interest in the guy at all and would not take him as well? (Yes, I know they wont be going to the same school.)

    As far as corners go, considering what we have right now and the scheme Roof is bringing, I think I'd certainly love to take 3 quality corners that give us the ability to possibly move Amos to safety and solve what we have going on there right now.

    "Just because you want one QB over the other... doesnt mean that you dont have any interest in the other though. "

    Didnt say anything of the sort.

    "Sure you would love Hack... but if he falls off of the board you're then taking a guy thats not on your list at all and replacing him as number one? "

    I have 2 on mine big board list. If one commits, doesnt matter how much I like the other..he is coming off. I only want 1 QB in the class. If I had just Hack on my list, and he committed elsewhere, yes I would take a guy not on the board and put that QB immediately in the top 5. QB is a top 5(conservative) need this cycle regardless

    "And are you saying if you like Hack you cant like Burns and are not allowed to have any interest in the guy at all and would not take him as well? (Yes, I know they wont be going to the same school.) "

    Again, no. NOt seeing where you are coming up with this interpretation. You can have interest in 15 QB's. Pick a name for me, once that QB commits, he is all I want to be part of the class. I only want 1. Thought that was clear.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    I hear ya... it was understandable, but it's still sickening! Last year could easily have been a top 15 class.

    top 15..? with reeves, c.williams, shutt, spence, cox, lynch, lewis, polard, connor n the others that we got... thats a top 10 for me if not close to the top 5/6 in the nation..

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  • Seltz said...

    "Just because you want one QB over the other... doesnt mean that you dont have any interest in the other though. "

    Didnt say anything of the sort.

    "Sure you would love Hack... but if he falls off of the board you're then taking a guy thats not on your list at all and replacing him as number one? "

    I have 2 on mine big board list. If one commits, doesnt matter how much I like the other..he is coming off. I only want 1 QB in the class. If I had just Hack on my list, and he committed elsewhere, yes I would take a guy not on the board and put that QB immediately in the top 5. QB is a top 5(conservative) need this cycle regardless

    "And are you saying if you like Hack you cant like Burns and are not allowed to have any interest in the guy at all and would not take him as well? (Yes, I know they wont be going to the same school.) "

    Again, no. NOt seeing where you are coming up with this interpretation. You can have interest in 15 QB's. Pick a name for me, once that QB commits, he is all I want to be part of the class. I only want 1. Thought that was clear.

    Ok I may have misinterpreted what you were saying.

    When you said "I would definitely NOT have 2 QB's on my list" I misunderstood and figured you wouldnt have 2 on your big board list... and thats what I didnt get. Even though I would love to get Hack, its not like Burns is chopped meat by any stretch of the imagination.

    And I agree that if Hack signs, you then drop Burns completely off. However until one of them signs, I didnt see a problem with initially putting two on the list, which I thought you were saying you couldnt see doing.

    So yeah. I work third shift and that was toward the end of the night.

    But yeah, I agree with all of that stuff then.

    The Heel

  • The Heel said...

    Ok I may have misinterpreted what you were saying.

    When you said "I would definitely NOT have 2 QB's on my list" I misunderstood and figured you wouldnt have 2 on your big board list... and thats what I didnt get. Even though I would love to get Hack, its not like Burns is chopped meat by any stretch of the imagination.

    And I agree that if Hack signs, you then drop Burns completely off. However until one of them signs, I didnt see a problem with initially putting two on the list, which I thought you were saying you couldnt see doing.

    So yeah. I work third shift and that was toward the end of the night.

    But yeah, I agree with all of that stuff then.

    Third shift is tough man lol.

    Honestly, if someone wanted to put 20 QB's on the initial list, feeling the need for QB is that large, I dont think I would give them serious crap for it. But definitely a little ribbing for fun haha

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  • CharlestonLion said...

    1- Hackenburg 2 - Williams 3 - Breneman 4 - Anzalone 5 - Foster 6 - Switzer 7 - Sickels 8 - Butler 9 - McGlinchey 10 - Douglas 11 - Burns 12 - Wilkins 13 - Smith 14 - Johnson 15 - Issah 16 - Munger 17 - Drennon 18 - Hicks 19 - Newby 20 - Vanderdoes

    SWEET! Knocked #1 and #10 out! Let's keep it rolling! biggrin

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