The Lions' Pride

People like myself that have perspective of going back to Joe's first year realize the program is a ways from what it once was. Not only that, but in recent years it was not at the top tier of the conference. There are a lot of reasons for that but it all comes down to Joe not retiring at the right time. How many recruits sitting out there today have actually seen PSU play in one BCS bowl game? I'm not looking for an argument and you can disagree all you want, but being an above average good team for 10 years is not what Penn State once was.

While I agree with the rest of what you said, this argument is weak. USC's last BCS bowl game was against PSU. People wouldn't call USC growing. (granted they were on probation as well).

I have said this previously, lock down va, put some finishing moves on rutgers in a few years, do the same in jersey, repeat with Pitt .....lock down our strong areas just in time for all the West Coast fun to start....

I think we have to take into account the fact that so many of these kids from the South that are on this list have had more opportunity to be evaluated.. So many of these kids are playing spring football so they are getting a chance to showcase how they are developing much sooner than kids in states where there isnt spring football.. Also, I think the fact that they have spring football is a huge factor in the overall talent gap that exists between some southern states and some northern states..

Tech will always run that area, but there is no reason IMO we should lose any serious recruit to UVA

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