The Lions' Pride

Ok what about Patterson? To your point.

I need to study more about him, but I'm open to him. Winning the Rose Bowl at TCU, and producing Andy Dalton is pretty good.

DM does not give me the impression that he's up to the job.

If we can hold on to our defensive staff - I feel a little better about Mullen. But not really -

I have 2 other names, that are likely flawed in PSU people's eyes -

Skip Holtz - (Holtz is a bad name, I agree), but is he up to the job?

Paul Rhodes - Coached at Pitt in 2000 (fatal flaw), but seems like a good guy in post game comments after OSU win. Always tough against Iowa.

Stronger leadership skills. More values than just football. Understand greater perspective of education, standing for something more than W/L - could be wrong. Just asking if they're worth looking at.

Have a good day - at work.

Or maybe the silence meant that he went to bed because it was late on a Sunday night. Or maybe he has real work to do on the UF site rather than take any more of his time voluntarily providing us with info. Very rarely do staff members from other sites comment on our threads. How long have u been around here again? And did you see us tackle the most athletic QB in our league at OSU last week? Or the best RB in our league 2 days ago? His D is responsible for tackling the best athletes in the country every week. I love Bradley, LJ and Vandy as defensive staffers, but I bet I wouldn't love them as much if our D had to tackle those kids every week. So he doesn't have the best DC and defensive staff in the biz. Doesn't mean he's bringing them to us. Doesn't mean they wouldn't be more successful in a league whose top teams (save Michigan) play a completely different style of offensive football.

Dan Mullen would be a tremendous hire. Many give him the credit for Urban Meyer's offense. If he can bring in or keep good defensive coaches, he will do just fine. Also, he is a top notch recruiter. At this point we can't do much better than him.

Not sure why some think PSU can do better right now. PSU will be lucky if they get Mullen at this point in time.

Agree.

I dont kno if Dan Mullen isnt the best option in any circumstance.. There is only 1 Urban Meyer out there and he isnt coming here.. Now that being said there are a ton of open coaching positions and I'd bet Dan Mullen is on most schools list.. I think he would be a great hire and would fit the mold of the previous hires by the Univerisity..

Serious questions, was Mullen responsible for a lot of the recruiting success at Florida? I am not sure how the responsibilities fell between Urban, Mullen and Strong. \

Looking at Mullen's last two classes at MSU, and knowing it is by no means an easy place to recruit too... but he has one 4* in the 2012 class, and one 4* in the 2011 class... both DT from MS. Maybe he is recruiting players to the system, but for having his offensive resume, I am surprised he hasn't recruited more offensive weapons to his system (especially considering I used rivals, and know their southern bias), I would think he'd have been more successful at pulling skill position players to Starksville.

I have no interest in being Harvard or Northwestern Posas14.

I appreaciate "the succes with honor" but lets get off our high horse. The success has been debateable. Since 99 we have been a NC contedner once. Honor,the staff has been admirable in keeping away from NCAA recruiting infractions but the police blotter shows they are not all saints in the locker room. What makes you yhink Dan Mulen can't keep his NCAA nose clean. When you have 100+ 18 to 22 yrs old you are gonna have issues. I don't think we need an IVY league mentality to have REAL success with honor (keep it clean with the NCAA).

The more I hear about Dan Mullen the more I like him.

You think Mullen isn't a good candidate because you have a perception that he doesn't graduate players, doesn't have a good defense, and doesn't give good media interviews?

He is coaching in one of the LEAST educated states in the country. Spend 15 minutes researching education in America and you will quickly see where Mississippi sits.
He has only been at MSU for 3 seasons which means he is taking "credit" for someone else's recruits graduating.
MSU sits in the middle of the SEC for football graduation rates, not great and horrid given the South's education levels. You are going to reject a LOT of coaches using your education requirements.

MSU has defenses have been very good the last few years. Look at their scores against last year's national champ and this year's likely champ (that would be LSU). They play one of the toughest schedules in the nation year after year and they have a competitive defense w/ lower rated players . Leaps and bounds better than MSU under Croom. Mullen is the Ferentz of the SEC. He takes 2 and 3 star players and plays well against the top teams in the country.

I couldn't care less about how he looks in an interview or press conference. How do his players, the coaches, and the recruits perceive him? Innovative offensive mind, great pedigree, and he isn't even 40 yet.

If we settled for Skip or Rhodes I would be beyond disappointed.