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brdcstr1 said...
Looks to me like you're manufacturing this feigned 'bother'. Shouldn't you wait to see IF someone's scholarship is yanked before feeling bothered?
BTW, just how does Kiffin - or ANY coach for that matter - interfere with a players eligibility requirements?
There have been reports that we may have an incoming recruit or a player(s) with academic issues that may be ineligible. Best to see how it all plays out before rushing to judgment, though.
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pdxtroy said...
No major violations at TN and less then at FL and other SEC schools during the same period. Who knew Carroll would go to the NFL two weeks before LOI day, and Kiff's dream job would open up. Even the reports of recruiting TN commits is inaccurate: The coaches called and informed all EEs at TN to let them know they were leaving , first hand, rather then hear it from other sources, but somehow a couple of TN posters ( I could name them but will not)stated unnamed sources and it went viral; even the players involved said it was not true. TH is like a spurned lover, they can't understand why anybody would leave them for anybody else. If he had been a failure there, there would not be a peep of him leaving. I have spent too much time in Knoxville to not separate fact from fiction. Other then TN fans all the schools that Kiff has coached have held him in high regard, and the only Raider person (of course the most important) that bad mouthed him was Al Davis; the coaches and players liked and respected him.
Yes, I am a Trojan homer, but Kiff informed the PSU AD he would be contacting Redd and only Redd before he did. Do you realize how many other schools contacted Redd: seven at last count, including the loudest screamers: GA and TN. And he certainly didn't camp out at Happy Valley with his coaching staff ala Illinois.
The reason the USC involvement has legs, is Joe Schad has been reporting it faithfully since day one why other schools contacts have been under the radar>if he comes USC will welcome him, if he stays at PSU, USC will still cheer him on.
And believe me, USC's penalties , though heavy, do not compare to what PSU has just received, but USC and its fans can understand the outrage and frustration that you are feeling right now.
This post was edited by Hamilton Lion on 7/26/2012 at 9:48 PM
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brdcstr1 said...
Our board appears to be fairly split on this matter IF our backup centers scholarship is yanked... Which isn't even a given at this point due to eligibility questions of another incoming recruit.
Best to know the circumstances behind the player most often mentioned as possibly having their scholarship pulled before jumping to conclusions, though.
Abe Markowitz came into the program as a walk-on center in 2008 and redshirted.
http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/markowitz_abe00.html
In 2009, still as a walk-on, he only played briefly in the first game in a blowout against San Jose State.
In 2010, when USC's roster was raided, he was given a scholarship that opened up due to the departure of the players leaving to go elsewhere. Hard to say that he really earned it based upon his game performances, though. He didn't see any action at all, and missed the last seven games of the season due to a chronic foot injury and subsequent surgery.
In 2011, ( not sure if he got this keep his scholarship from the previous year) he missed spring practice due to another surgery on his foot, and followed up by missing the entire season and requiring ANOTHER foot surgery.
Tuition to USC is well over $50,000 a year now. Abe has already received at least one year of tuition for free, and quite possibly two... In spite of playing in portions of one game in three previous seasons.
Obviously his parents can afford the tuition at the school, so I'll withhold judgment to see what happens, and what Abe's response would be if his scholarship is indeed yanked.
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Hamilton Lion said...
The way he left - telling recruits NOT TO SIGN THEIR NLI's with Tennessee after selling the program for XXX months ... not addressing his team and letting them know he was leaving ... that is bush league.
Tennessee doesn't hold him in high regards. I can tell you that. And I'm talking about the school.
SID's talk all the time about coaches at conventions ... I will just leave it at that.
Lane Kiffin's departure sparks emotions among Tennessee Volunteers - ESPN
A surreal scene played out in Knoxville as the word spread across campus about Lane Kiffin's decision to leave Tennessee for USC.
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WebSiteMob said...
I'm not faulting Kiffin. Kiffin is a used car saleman - he's putting in a full day's work here. Gotta make quota.
My fault is with Redd. I want leaders on my team. I want commitment. I guess he's a coward. Buh-bye.
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TrojanMindSC said...
I think if there is a fan base that understands what you are going through it would be USC. WE BOTH HATE THE NCAA and weren't treated fairly by them. I for one don't agree with the PSU sanctions.
As for the scholly. No one who came to USC as a recruited athlete is going to lose a scholarship.
There are some reports that a current player isn't academically eligible.
The more likely scenario is that last year USC was below 85 that Kiffin gave WOs scholarships (scummy thing to do..i know) and that he only promised this WOs rides for 1 year. I don't really have an issue taking a scholarship back from a WO who never expected to get on in the first place.
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thefonz said...
As long as Lane Kiffen made the distinction that said player was on a year to year basis when/if USC had an extra ship available, that doesn't sound bad. Although, financially, it is really late to be pullying a scholarship for next year. USC ain't cheap.
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You Trojans have been extremely reasonable and supportive thus far. So answer this.........If Kiffin has to boot a kid off scholly to make room for Redd, are you OK with that? Cause if O'Brien did it I would be pissed.
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