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Kiffin You Are Scum

  • Trock56 said...

    Your coach was scum before he want after redd. Go ask the other schools he ran from. USC fans although some have been nice need to go back to there board because they were pissed when players were being targeted from there team.

    This is a business. All coaches are SCUM when winning is all that counts. Some of the coaches everyone thought had the best morals and were the best people have had situations come to light in the last couple of years proves no one is as they are portrayed in this CFB.

    I can't say how other USC fans reacted, but only 1 player leaving USC made me mad and it was Jackson who went to TN.

    All the other ones went for better opportunities and I couldn't really blame them.

    TrojanMindSC

  • Trock56 said...

    Opinions great preaching and telling poster what we should think is a joke.

    You're are a little nutty man. I'm mad too, but I can still leave emotion out of it and be rational.

    This post was edited by Tom88 on 7/26/2012 at 8:01 PM

    Tom88

  • TrojanMindSC said...

    This is a business. All coaches are SCUM when winning is all that counts. Some of the coaches everyone thought had the best morals and were the best people have had situations come to light in the last couple of years proves no one is as they are portrayed in this CFB.

    I can't say how other USC fans reacted, but only 1 player leaving USC made me mad and it was Jackson who went to TN.

    All the other ones went for better opportunities and I couldn't really blame them.

    You would be pissed if a guy was a leader talked USC up all the time. Claimed to be moral and all about the team then he left that team and made everything he said complete bs.

    Trock56

  • Tom88 said...

    You're are a little nutty man. I'm mad too, but I can still leave emotion out of it an be rational.

    When someone tells some one if people are upset it is just sour grapes. It is preaching. I respect certain posters on here because although we may not agree they have built a reputation people with 50 post have no history to interpret there post.

    Trock56

  • We Are..... said...

    bono is correct. USC cannot go over 75, no exceptions.

    Right. According to Schad, they had to hope for a non-qualifier or dump a redshirt off scholarship. Glad that culture change the NCAA is looking for is working out.

    NorthsideLion

  • Trock56 said...

    You would be pissed if a guy was a leader talked USC up all the time. Claimed to be moral and all about the team then he left that team and made everything he said complete bs.

    I would be, but that doesn't make LK a scum for recruiting him. LK had every right to recruit him, Redd should have just put down the phone and said I am all PSU.

    TrojanMindSC

  • Trock56 said...

    When someone tells some one if people are upset it is just sour grapes. It is preaching. I respect certain posters on here because although we may not agree they have built a reputation people with 50 post have no history to interpret there post.

    Yeah man. You're right. I really need to bump of my online recruiting board rep to be able to speak here. I don't think it matters if half of the 1200 things you've said are irrational.

    Tom88

  • TrojanMindSC said...

    Don't really like any coach going after recruits in this situation unless the recruit reaches out to the school first, but I think it is hypercritical to trash Kiffin in this instance.

    From all reports, he let your coach know he was going after Redd. He isn't going after just any player to spite PSU (Dooley did that when USC players could transfer penalty free). He is going after the only player that can impact our roster in the biggest area of need. Some coaches out there have offered almost everyone of your players and seem to be ambushing them. NOW those coaches are SCUM IMO.

    I think most of the anger is because Kiffin is going after Redd. Would you be this mad if he went after a backup?

    He is a scumbag. Go away Trojan..we are not in the mood.

    ...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"

    paupacklion

  • We didnt see any Trojans around until the redd talk. They are as full of shit as their coach..rubbing salt in our wounds.

    ...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"

    paupacklion

  • TrojanMindSC said...

    This is a business. All coaches are SCUM when winning is all that counts. Some of the coaches everyone thought had the best morals and were the best people have had situations come to light in the last couple of years proves no one is as they are portrayed in this CFB.

    I can't say how other USC fans reacted, but only 1 player leaving USC made me mad and it was Jackson who went to TN.

    All the other ones went for better opportunities and I couldn't really blame them.

    you're an idiot and a hypocritical sheep at that, seems like it worked out pretty good for Malik he graduated from ut and also got drafted into the nfl, maybe it's because after meeting lame kitten and ogre he high tailed it out of cali!

    jrd77

  • You Trojans have been extremely reasonable and supportive thus far. So answer this.........If Kiffin has to boot a kid off scholly to make room for Redd, are you OK with that? Cause if O'Brien did it I would be pissed.

    We Are27731

  • Tom88 said...

    Yeah man. You're right. I really need to bump of my online recruiting board rep to be able to speak here. I don't think it matters if half of the 1200 things you've said are irrational.

    Go back to reading. Come out of the wood work and make stupid comments. My point was simple it is not rep but context that makes a difference. That is why 247 has good conversations because you know where other posters are coming from. Tom88 I am all for you putting men ignore and not responding to any of my post. Because in the last 5 minutes you have posted enough for me to realize what you are.

    Trock56

  • Trock56 said...

    Opinions great preaching and telling poster what we should think is a joke.

    It's called discussion. Clearly the board is made of opinions and debate.

    I just think that Redd may have different goals. He may have aspirations of winning a Rose Bowl, NC, or a Heismann. None of which will occur if he stays.

    drken22

  • We Are..... said...

    You Trojans have been extremely reasonable and supportive thus far. So answer this.........If Kiffin has to boot a kid off scholly to make room for Redd, are you OK with that? Cause if O'Brien did it I would be pissed.

    He will have to boot someone but that won't bother the little shit a bit.

    jrd77

  • Trock56 said...

    Go back to reading. Come out of the wood work and make stupid comments. My point was simple it is not rep but context that makes a difference. That is why 247 has good conversations because you know where other posters are coming from. Tom88 I am all for you putting men ignore and not responding to any of my post. Because in the last 5 minutes you have posted enough for me to realize what you are.

    psychoooo

    Tom88

  • drken22 said...

    It's called discussion. Clearly the board is made of opinions and debate.

    I just think that Redd may have different goals. He may have aspirations of winning a Rose Bowl, NC, or a Heismann. None of which will occur if he stays.

    Or he may be full of crap and not the leader we all thought he was. Willing to leave brothers so he can be second fiddle at USC. He is not winning a hiesman at USC with all the other stars on that team. Winnig is great when you do it with your teammates and brothers will not be that special as a second string with guys you do not know

    Trock56

  • TrojanMindSC said...

    Don't really like any coach going after recruits in this situation unless the recruit reaches out to the school first, but I think it is hypercritical to trash Kiffin in this instance.

    From all reports, he let your coach know he was going after Redd. He isn't going after just any player to spite PSU (Dooley did that when USC players could transfer penalty free). He is going after the only player that can impact our roster in the biggest area of need. Some coaches out there have offered almost everyone of your players and seem to be ambushing them. NOW those coaches are SCUM IMO.

    I think most of the anger is because Kiffin is going after Redd. Would you be this mad if he went after a backup?

    Im not getting into all of this here, but I will answer your last question.

    I will be mad if he goes after a walk on long snapper(who is already in and would give a hells no to Kif biggrin )

    I dont think much of Kiffin in general. I will never say he is a great coach. I think he is a fantastic manager and salesmen and finds talent(in his staff) that will find talent(in recruiting). I find him entertaining, think he will win ya games, and yet would never ever want him as the head of my football program.

    Some rambling thoughts I know haha

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  • The only thing i have a problem with is some poor kid at usc is going to lose his scholarship over this.....a kid who most likely stuck by that program through their own sanctions.....if kiffin can look that kid in the eye and tell him he lost his scholly, then yea, he is scum

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  • Seltz said...

    I dont think much of Kiffin in general. I will never say he is a great coach. I think he is a fantastic manager and salesmen and finds talent(in his staff) that will find talent(in recruiting). I find him entertaining, think he will win ya games, and yet would never ever want him as the head of my football program.

    I agree 100%.

    drken22

  • We Are..... said...

    You Trojans have been extremely reasonable and supportive thus far. So answer this.........If Kiffin has to boot a kid off scholly to make room for Redd, are you OK with that? Cause if O'Brien did it I would be pissed.

    I think if there is a fan base that understands what you are going through it would be USC. WE BOTH HATE THE NCAA and weren't treated fairly by them. I for one don't agree with the PSU sanctions.

    As for the scholly. No one who came to USC as a recruited athlete is going to lose a scholarship.

    There are some reports that a current player isn't academically eligible.

    The more likely scenario is that last year USC was below 85 that Kiffin gave WOs scholarships (scummy thing to do..i know) and that he only promised this WOs rides for 1 year. I don't really have an issue taking a scholarship back from a WO who never expected to get on in the first place.

    TrojanMindSC

  • Nate Bauer ‏@NateBauerBWI
    According to Silas Sr., "The report that Silas is gone is misinformation!"

    why are we all slinging mud, apparently Kiffin tried and it didn't work, no harm no foul in my opinion...unless someone knows something i don't?

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  • beimel4 said...

    Nate Bauer ‏@NateBauerBWI
    According to Silas Sr., "The report that Silas is gone is misinformation!"

    why are we all slinging mud, apparently Kiffin tried and it didn't work, no harm no foul in my opinion...unless someone knows something i don't?

    You do know he's going to visit LA this weekend, right? He just said he's not gone........yet.

    We Are27731

  • TrojanMindSC said...

    I think if there is a fan base that understands what you are going through it would be USC. WE BOTH HATE THE NCAA and weren't treated fairly by them. I for one don't agree with the PSU sanctions.

    As for the scholly. No one who came to USC as a recruited athlete is going to lose a scholarship.

    There are some reports that a current player isn't academically eligible.

    The more likely scenario is that last year USC was below 85 that Kiffin gave WOs scholarships (scummy thing to do..i know) and that he only promised this WOs rides for 1 year. I don't really have an issue taking a scholarship back from a WO who never expected to get on in the first place.

    BS. If a WO earns a scholly you see it through. I know its not against the rules, but its sleazy to play games with these kids on a yearly basis IMO.

    We Are27731

  • Well give it time, he's doing his due diligence. If he leaves, that sucks, but we are going to have an offense that wouldn't have needed him like we did last year. If he stays, awesome, I'll remember him as the kid who could have bolted for a NC but stayed.

    If he's gone, I'm not gonna wish him or kiffin I'll will (he'd be a fool not to take him). That said, I won't be rooting for them ever again either.

    Until the ink is dry, let's just hope that he sees the light and ends up back in Blue and White.

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  • paupacklion said...

    We didnt see any Trojans around until the redd talk. They are as full of shit as their coach..rubbing salt in our wounds.

    I was here before that, but I will step away. I understand the pain and hurt...we felt it as well.

    Again, best of luck and I hope you keep your entire team intact. God Bless.

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