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Kiffin You Are Scum

  • MTayl72 said...

    On this topic. I have no issues with you and never have, I don't think. Really think you're directing your anger the wrong way is all.

    I didn't say I liked Kiffin. I've hated him since the UT incident. One of my best friend's is from KVille and I saw what it did to that fanbase/program.

    I'm just frustrated, bud. This is just one hit after another. Nothing personal. Sorry.

    ...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"

    paupacklion

  • paupacklion said...

    I'm just frustrated, bud. This is just one hit after another. Nothing personal. Sorry.

    All good, I know what's up. I snapped on 13 the other day with the sae kind of stuff. It happens. This whole thing is BS, and even worse plenty of people are getting punished fo something that had nothing to do with them, their teammates, and for many of thes kids their coaches.

    MTayl72

  • chrisrash said...

    Entitled? True. But it's clear that your opinion isn't based in reality.

    That example took 10 seconds to find after a "Lane Kiffin Sleaze" google search. 10 more seconds than I would like to have wasted doing a search on Lane Kiffin.

    Lane Kiffin Tells Recruit He'll End Up Pumping Gas

    http://www.aolnews.com/2009/03/09/lane-kiffin-tells-recruit-hell-end-up-pumping-gas/

    www.aolnews.com

    helpdesk

  • paupacklion said...

    I'm just frustrated, bud. This is just one hit after another. Nothing personal. Sorry.

    I think what makes you frustrated as much as all of us in this one is that not only is Redd our best offensive player and seemed to love PSU, but its the fact you have a team that is still technically on probation (I don't believe they are still at the full allotted scholarship amounts) be allowed by the NCAA to come in a poach a player like this - especially since they are still being sanctioned to a certain extent.

    Hamilton Lion

  • If Kiffin is scum for trying to recuit a Penn State player, then the same can be said for just about every coach in the country. The only difference is that Kiffin is a good enough salesman to pull it off.

  • chrisrash said...

    And one more thing, criticizing Lane Kiffin as a sleaze ball makes you look ignorant. He's a good salesman, but it's not that hard to recruit for a school like USC, all things considered.

    I'm not faulting Kiffin. Kiffin is a used car saleman - he's putting in a full day's work here. Gotta make quota.

    My fault is with Redd. I want leaders on my team. I want commitment. I guess he's a coward. Buh-bye.

    WebSiteMob

  • Only part of this that bothers me is that Kiffin will yank someones scholly or the chances of that kid meeting eligibility requirements just went to 0%.

    We Are27731

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    This post was edited by BoulderFish on 7/26/2012 at 7:48 PM

    BoulderFish

  • We Are..... said...

    Only part of this that bothers me is that Kiffin will yank someones scholly or the chances of that kid meeting eligibility requirements just went to 0%.

    Did I miss something or did the NCAA decide not to allow roster exemptions for players that transfer from Penn State?

    MTayl72

  • I'm sooooo tired of hearing people slam Silas. He wants to play for a national championship. Let it go. When he was here, he busted his ass the whole time. Anyone who makes insinuations that he has somehow "changed" is just sour at the situation. I wish him the best.

    Tom88

  • MTayl72 said...

    Did I miss something or did the NCAA decide not to allow roster exemptions for players that transfer from Penn State?

    Schools under sanctions cannot go over their limit.

    bonovoxpsu

  • Tom88 said...

    I'm sooooo tired of hearing people slam Silas. He wants to play for a national championship. Let it go. When he was here, he busted his ass the whole time. Anyone who makes insinuations that he has somehow "changed" is just sour at the situation. I wish him the best.

    I guess those that stay don't want to win? I won't bash him, but I win't cheer for him with those that are staying and what it means to PSU!!

    "One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."

    LaJollaLion

  • We need to stop bashing Redd. If you want to bash Kiffin, fine. But USC fans have been pretty cool here. I think if you were a soph. rb with Redd's ability, you might want to play for a chance to play in the Rose bowl or a NC. We can be disappointed that he isn't staying, but not at his decision.

    drken22

  • Tom88 said...

    I'm sooooo tired of hearing people slam Silas. He wants to play for a national championship. Let it go. When he was here, he busted his ass the whole time. Anyone who makes insinuations that he has somehow "changed" is just sour at the situation. I wish him the best.

    People have the right to feel any way they want without it being sour grapes. Silas talked about psu and football like he was a leader. His teammates have come together if he leaves he would be turning his back on them. I will not respect Silas for that. I will think worst of him because what I thought he was and what he said he was is not the case. I guess getting a psu degree for his grandmother was complete bs because Silas will not graduate from psu or USC.

    Trock56

  • drken22 said...

    We need to stop bashing Redd. If you want to bash Kiffin, fine. But USC fans have been pretty cool here. I think if you were a soph. rb with Redd's ability, you might want to play for a chance to play in the Rose bowl or a NC. We can be disappointed that he isn't staying, but not at his decision.

    Why are all the people with 50 and 100 post coming here preaching to us on how we should feel and what our actions should be.

    Trock56

  • MTayl72 said...

    Did I miss something or did the NCAA decide not to allow roster exemptions for players that transfer from Penn State?

    bono is correct. USC cannot go over 75, no exceptions.

    We Are27731

  • Don't really like any coach going after recruits in this situation unless the recruit reaches out to the school first, but I think it is hypercritical to trash Kiffin in this instance.

    From all reports, he let your coach know he was going after Redd. He isn't going after just any player to spite PSU (Dooley did that when USC players could transfer penalty free). He is going after the only player that can impact our roster in the biggest area of need. Some coaches out there have offered almost everyone of your players and seem to be ambushing them. NOW those coaches are SCUM IMO.

    I think most of the anger is because Kiffin is going after Redd. Would you be this mad if he went after a backup?

    TrojanMindSC

  • Trock56 said...

    People have the right to feel any way they want without it being sour grapes. Silas talked about psu and football like he was a leader. His teammates have come together if he leaves he would be turning his back on them. I will not respect Silas for that. I will think worst of him because what I thought he was and what he said he was is not the case. I guess getting a psu degree for his grandmother was complete bs because Silas will not graduate from psu or USC.

    you are unrealistic. It is sour grapes. What would you do, honestly? I want him to stay too, but the reality is this kid is a competitor who wants to play for some type of championship.

    Tom88

  • TrojanMindSC said...

    Don't really like any coach going after recruits in this situation unless the recruit reaches out to the school first, but I think it is hypercritical to trash Kiffin in this instance.

    From all reports, he let your coach know he was going after Redd. He isn't going after just any player to spite PSU (Dooley did that when USC players could transfer penalty free). He is going after the only player that can impact our roster in the biggest area of need. Some coaches out there have offered almost everyone of your players and seem to be ambushing them. NOW those coaches are SCUM IMO.

    I think most of the anger is because Kiffin is going after Redd. Would you be this mad if he went after a backup?

    Your coach was scum before he want after redd. Go ask the other schools he ran from. USC fans although some have been nice need to go back to there board because they were pissed when players were being targeted from there team.

    Trock56

  • Trock56 said...

    Why are all the people with 50 and 100 post coming here preaching to us on how we should feel and what our actions should be.

    What does that matter? So I never really posted. I have been on here for quite a while and listened for a few months. Sorry if new people have opinions.

    drken22

  • Trock56 said...

    Your coach was scum before he want after redd. Go ask the other schools he ran from. USC fans although some have been nice need to go back to there board because they were pissed when players were being targeted from there team.

    I will, however, agree with that.

    This post was edited by Tom88 on 7/26/2012 at 7:56 PM

    Tom88

  • Tom88 said...

    you are unrealistic. It is sour grapes. What would you do, honestly? I want him to stay too, but the reality is this kid is a competitor who wants to play for some type of championship.

    I would back up my words. Not run across country because I know that is not my team and to where my loyalty is. Silas may fall for the charm of USC but he will not be the first or last recruit fed apple of crap to go and not get what he was promised. Stop preaching the starting defense is coming back he is letting teammates down and he is make all of his formal comments appear to be complete bs.

    Trock56

  • chrisrash said...

    Entitled? True. But it's clear that your opinion isn't based in reality.

    Yeah, when he left UT he completely changed his entire persona and is now a choir boy.

    Itzsessil

  • drken22 said...

    What does that matter? So I never really posted. I have been on here for quite a while and listened for a few months. Sorry if new people have opinions.

    Opinions great preaching and telling poster what we should think is a joke.

    Trock56

  • Hamilton Lion said...

    It is reality. The only fan base that thinks Kiffin is clean is the USC fan base. I have no problem with him going after Redd. He is a tremendous back. That said, don't be a homer here. His actions at Tennessee and the way he left ... SEC Lane Kiffin was a dick head. He had more violations in his year stay in Knoxville than Fulmer had in his career probably. Maybe he has grown up since returning, but ...

    No major violations at TN and less then at FL and other SEC schools during the same period. Who knew Carroll would go to the NFL two weeks before LOI day, and Kiff's dream job would open up. Even the reports of recruiting TN commits is inaccurate: The coaches called and informed all EEs at TN to let them know they were leaving , first hand, rather then hear it from other sources, but somehow a couple of TN posters ( I could name them but will not)stated unnamed sources and it went viral; even the players involved said it was not true. TH is like a spurned lover, they can't understand why anybody would leave them for anybody else. If he had been a failure there, there would not be a peep of him leaving. I have spent too much time in Knoxville to not separate fact from fiction. Other then TN fans all the schools that Kiff has coached have held him in high regard, and the only Raider person (of course the most important) that bad mouthed him was Al Davis; the coaches and players liked and respected him.

    Yes, I am a Trojan homer, but Kiff informed the PSU AD he would be contacting Redd and only Redd before he did. Do you realize how many other schools contacted Redd: seven at last count, including the loudest screamers: GA and TN. And he certainly didn't camp out at Happy Valley with his coaching staff ala Illinois.

    The reason the USC involvement has legs, is Joe Schad has been reporting it faithfully since day one why other schools contacts have been under the radar>if he comes USC will welcome him, if he stays at PSU, USC will still cheer him on.

    And believe me, USC's penalties , though heavy, do not compare to what PSU has just received, but USC and its fans can understand the outrage and frustration that you are feeling right now.

    This post was edited by pdxtroy on 7/26/2012 at 8:01 PM

    Freedom through Vigilance

    pdxtroy