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  • psujmc1992 said...

    Congrats on the GREAT news!

    Thanks! Appreciate it.

    PSUMel

  • tdiddy said...

    If you're a vet, yesterday is a 2 out of 10 on the Richter scale of the Great PSU Recruiting Capers of Lore.

    I agree. Actually, I find the knowledgebase and education that I get here much better than the other two sites, one of which seems to have a new thread every few minutes to whine about things. Now that is frustrating. Well, I'm done with yesterday. Thinking about and looking forward to tomorrow and the future.

    robmaio

  • Nothing is set in stone until next year. Let's hope BOB gets the offense cranking, and see if some of these boys don't have a change of heart!

    Flipper10

  • PSUMel said...

    It is what it is, is my favorite saying, and applies to yesterday and this past week perfectly. In the middle of all the meltdowns yesterday, I got really great news that over-shadowed everything - I don't have cancer. It's all about keeping things in perspective. Teenage boys are allowed to change their minds for whatever reason, as it is their choice to make. Let's help the new commits that we do have, restore the roar, with pride and dignity. After all, WE ARE.....

    Absolutely GREAT news. I know first hand how you feel. You start to look at things a little differently.

    robmaio

  • PSUMel said...

    Thanks! Appreciate it.

    Congrats, that's great news!!

    My aunt's cancer came back last week, and my dad's getting tested this week. Hoping for the best, and that the good luck continues.

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  • You can be as upbeat as you want, but our QB situation is pitiful. It is imperative that a new coach win immediately, and our QB situation could hinder BOB's ability to do so. Losing DOB hurts. A lot. How many years until BOB has an experienced, capable QB ? 2 ? 3 ? How many wins each of those years, and what does that do to recruiting ?

    Without DOB, the rebuilding process becomes much bigger and much more difficult. Don't diminish it.

    Fisher and Obie need to squeeze every ounce of productivity they can out of Bolden, Jones and McGloin over the next few years. I'm worried that even the best in the business can only get so much out of that crew.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • robmaio said...

    I agree. Actually, I find the knowledgebase and education that I get here much better than the other two sites, one of which seems to have a new thread every few minutes to whine about things. Now that is frustrating. Well, I'm done with yesterday. Thinking about and looking forward to tomorrow and the future.

    Well that's because we're better than everybody else. biggrin

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  • robmaio said...

    Absolutely GREAT news. I know first hand how you feel. You start to look at things a little differently.

    So true! Thanks.

    PSUMel

  • leftcoastlion said...

    It is imperative that a new coach win immediately, and our QB situation could hinder BOB's ability to do so.

    The OL is a larger hinerance than the QB situation. In fact, the comparitive situation is potentially what cost us the QB. Nick Saban wouldn't win immediately with this group. It's going to take some time.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    Congrats, that's great news!!

    My aunt's cancer came back last week, and my dad's getting tested this week. Hoping for the best, and that the good luck continues.

    Thanks. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. That's all we have sometimes.

    PSUMel

  • tdiddy said...

    The OL is a larger hinerance than the QB situation. In fact, the comparitive situation is potentially what cost us the QB. Nick Saban wouldn't win immediately with this group. It's going to take some time.

    I don't even remotely agree with you. We have a ton of bodies on the OL with only two rising seniors, most of whom failed to develop purely due to the strength training program. Urschel, Smith, Mangiro, Gress, Dieff.. these are talented players. We also have time to bring in bodies to replace them.

    QB is the most important position on the field by a mile, and we couldn't possibly be worse off at the position. It's also the hardest position to replace quickly and to build depth.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • leftcoastlion said...

    I don't even remotely agree with you. We have a ton of bodies on the OL with only two rising seniors, most of whom failed to develop purely due to the strength training program. Urschel, Smith, Mangiro, Gress, Dieff.. these are talented players. We also have time to bring in bodies to replace them.

    QB is the most important position on the field by a mile, and we couldn't possibly be worse off at the position. It's also the hardest position to replace quickly and to build depth.

    Too bad DOB didn't agree. 'Ton of bodies' is exactly that...bodies. Every program has bodies. Few have talent. The strength program wasn't the sole or even primary problem. We recruited a certain type of kid at the position...not one which typically excels at that position. The scheme did them no favors either, nor did the split in coaching assignments. It will improve over time, but you shouldn't expect much from this year's bunch. DOB didn't have the luxury of time, and he made a wise decision based on that factor.

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  • tdiddy said...

    Too bad DOB didn't agree. 'Ton of bodies' is exactly that...bodies. Every program has bodies. Few have talent. The strength program wasn't the sole or even primary problem. We recruited a certain type of kid at the position...not one which typically excels at that position. The scheme did them no favors either, nor did the split in coaching assignments. It will improve over time, but you shouldn't expect much from this year's bunch. DOB didn't have the luxury of time, and he made a wise decision based on that factor.

    You aren't making a thoughtful argument by using DOB as proof of something. All that proves is DOB thought Wisky had better supporting talent. No crap.

    No position on our offense is especially strong. But the worst of the bunch is the QB position, and the level of productivity from that position has a disproportionate effect on wins and losses from the productivity of the other offensive units.

    You can believe what you want, but our OL has not been that bad over the last few years. We regularly gave up very few sacks and had a decent YPC number, all in spite of the fact that teams rarely feared our passing game. There are capable players in that unit who are only going to get better under Fitz program and the coaching of McWhorter.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • I guess I'm in the minority, but I don't see us not getting DOB a major downer. My opinion is that his announcement to UW is more of a problem, than us not getting him. I was hoping he would go back to the ACC or choose an SEC team.

    Our quarterbacks have not performed to our expectations. OK, I know that, but let's wait awhile until we announce more doom for them. Let's see what they can do in a new system. Perhaps the coaching and the playbook will provide better performance. Having a less predictable offense should help tremendously. How many times in the past have we heard opposing team quotes that they knew what our offense was going to do before the play unfolded? It’s not difficult to make a play on the quarterback when you know where the play is going or a throw is telegraphed. New strategies and the ability of the QB to change the play at the line (Please allow an occasional audible) should produce a less predictable offensive scheme. BOB states his game plans will be situational. Hopefully his coaching will take into account the strengths of the individual players and develop plays to their strengths. That’s what coaching is all about, and with two coaches focusing on the QB, my hope is that they will improve the performance of the offense.

    We’ve got decent recruits starting the next two years who should benefit from being in the system from the start. Having DOB for two years would have stretched out their development, and could have possibly lead Hack to reconsider his commitment.

    My opinion is that as the strength and conditioning improves, the offense become more varied and unpredictable, and the individual coaching begins to show benefits, we will be glad that we did not get the services of DOB this year and next.

    76IE

  • Regarding our OL, I don't think that any of us know what we really have. With 4 seniors last year, I'm guessing that the younger guys didn't get a REAL opportunity to crack into the 1st team OL. We need to see how they do with Fitz as a S&C coach. We also need to see if the little we heard about the young guys is true (Smith and Mangiro specifically). I have no idea what to expect of them this year.

    getmyjive11

  • paupacklion said...

    Last year at this time I believe we only had Stanko commit. This year we already have a franchise QB, the #1 TE, a top 5 DE, etc. I wanted Danny badly, but it is not like we will have less talent at QB than we did last year. They can only get better under a coaching staff that coaches and intructs. ND is a player in recruiting, and I am glad MM went there instead of a B1G school..the same for Switzer going to UNC, who we will not play. This year we may take some bumps on the field, but we are way ahead of last year's recruiting and quite frankly losing a 3 star WR will not kill us. I think if we all were told 3 months ago we would have the commits that we currently do right now we would have thought that Saban or Meyer was our HC!!! As you can tell I am having a glass is half full day!

    Could not have made a more valid point! +

    Domo

  • PSUMel said...

    It is what it is, is my favorite saying, and applies to yesterday and this past week perfectly. In the middle of all the meltdowns yesterday, I got really great news that over-shadowed everything - I don't have cancer. It's all about keeping things in perspective. Teenage boys are allowed to change their minds for whatever reason, as it is their choice to make. Let's help the new commits that we do have, restore the roar, with pride and dignity. After all, WE ARE.....

    Awesome. That really puts things in perspective. Very happy to hear your good news.

    The Heel

  • Texas Lion said...

    Congrats, that's great news!!

    My aunt's cancer came back last week, and my dad's getting tested this week. Hoping for the best, and that the good luck continues.

    PSUMel said...

    Thanks. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. That's all we have sometimes.

    Well said Mel. I will as well. Best of luck to you and yours.

    The Heel

  • PSUMel said...

    It is what it is, is my favorite saying, and applies to yesterday and this past week perfectly. In the middle of all the meltdowns yesterday, I got really great news that over-shadowed everything - I don't have cancer. It's all about keeping things in perspective. Teenage boys are allowed to change their minds for whatever reason, as it is their choice to make. Let's help the new commits that we do have, restore the roar, with pride and dignity. After all, WE ARE.....

    That puts things in perspective. I am happy for you. I don't have issues to that scale, but I have been going through a terrible separation from my wife of 16 years and she was not letting me see my younger 2 kids. This site was my only release from all of the stress of that. Well, I have them for the entire weekend and I can't get the smile off of my face. My older sons are excited as well (they live with me). It is gonna be a great weekend..on a personal level as well as a Penn State football level!!

    ...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"

    paupacklion

  • 76IE said...

    I guess I'm in the minority, but I don't see us not getting DOB a major downer. My opinion is that his announcement to UW is more of a problem, than us not getting him. I was hoping he would go back to the ACC or choose an SEC team.

    Our quarterbacks have not performed to our expectations. OK, I know that, but let's wait awhile until we announce more doom for them. Let's see what they can do in a new system. Perhaps the coaching and the playbook will provide better performance. Having a less predictable offense should help tremendously. How many times in the past have we heard opposing team quotes that they knew what our offense was going to do before the play unfolded? It’s not difficult to make a play on the quarterback when you know where the play is going or a throw is telegraphed. New strategies and the ability of the QB to change the play at the line (Please allow an occasional audible) should produce a less predictable offensive scheme. BOB states his game plans will be situational. Hopefully his coaching will take into account the strengths of the individual players and develop plays to their strengths. That’s what coaching is all about, and with two coaches focusing on the QB, my hope is that they will improve the performance of the offense.

    We’ve got decent recruits starting the next two years who should benefit from being in the system from the start. Having DOB for two years would have stretched out their development, and could have possibly lead Hack to reconsider his commitment.

    My opinion is that as the strength and conditioning improves, the offense become more varied and unpredictable, and the individual coaching begins to show benefits, we will be glad that we did not get the services of DOB this year and next.

    I completely agree. This was worst case scenario in the DOB sweepstakes, and where does it leave us now that it has been realized? EXACTLY where we were two and a half months ago. How many people saw us doing as well as we did last season with our current QB's? Don't kid yourself...it's not a lot of us.

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  • The Heel said...

    Awesome. That really puts things in perspective. Very happy to hear your good news.

    Thank you very much!

    PSUMel

  • paupacklion said...

    That puts things in perspective. I am happy for you. I don't have issues to that scale, but I have been going through a terrible separation from my wife of 16 years and she was not letting me see my younger 2 kids. This site was my only release from all of the stress of that. Well, I have them for the entire weekend and I can't get the smile off of my face. My older sons are excited as well (they live with me). It is gonna be a great weekend..on a personal level as well as a Penn State football level!!

    Separations and divorces suck, been there done that. Really hard on the children. So happy that you're finally spending time with them, as they grow and change so quickly....just enjoy them! biggrin

    PSUMel

  • Paupack, have a wonderful weekend. Divorce sucks even without kids and even when you know it's the right thing to do. Hopefully, the ex gets her head out of her ass and puts your kids needs above hers.

    For the rest of you, WTF? Coaching can make teams with a hell of a lot less "talent" than what we have competitive, good or great. Of course, coaching can make talented teams suck. NO ONE knows what will happen next year. Not even BOB. There is not a single kid on Meyer's Utah team, that bitch slapped Alabama, that we would have been happy recruiting. Alex Smith was a 2-star coming out of high school. Whining about our lack of talent is ridiculous. We have recruited better than 80-90% of the teams in the country and in the last few years better than every team in the Big 10 not named Ohio State. There is enough size, strength and speed on the roster to win the division, if not the conference, if BOB, Roof and Fitz can get the kids to play to their potential.

    This post was edited by psujmc1992 on 3/30/2012 at 11:08 AM

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