The Lions' Pride

True, and based on what we've seen/heard it looks like Joyner will be groveling at the feet of the newly hired president (whenever that happens), begging to be kept on. Fortunately the new president will have no allegiance to Joyner and will dismiss him summarily after looking at his resume.

You apparently have all the answers, if only everybody in the PSU admin knew what you knew everything would be great!

You could take it the other way;

That PSU is announcing that Joyner's tenure has a very definitive end and he will NOT be the AD when Erickson leaves.

So you're trying to tell me that if you were planning on taking over a company that you would want the leaving CEO to hire a CFO knowing full well that you have no idea who the person is? Conversely, as said CFO, you would want to take a job where the person hiring you will be gone in 18 months and you have no idea who your new boss is and whether you would have a good working relationship with? I could understand if PSU's AD had been there for 10 years and was successful but that is a different situation. We have a guy who's been around for approximately a year. This happens all the time in the NFL. A new owner or GM comes in and fires everyone and brings in his own people. Why should PSU be any different?

Yes. He is the biggest asshole on campus. Also many were part of who got bob. Joyner is using this as a last cash cow because he want bankrupt. He is in this for himself not psu. I would take a lawn mower guy over this asshole any day. By the way thank a certain former eagle is the reason why we have bob.

What i am saying is it is not about what the CEO coming in 18 months from now wants. It is about what is best for the company today. My duty is to my stakeholders not the next CEO. So yes I would absolutely replace the CFO now. And any CEO I know would as well. In our situation the president of the university should be focused on the best interests of the university.

This is not one of those cases unless psu would hire a new president set on destroying athletics. Psu needs to much money to make this happen. Bob got hired knowing president and ad were short term. An doing it the psu way means not being an asshole.

So you think O'Brien was lying through his teeth when he called the press conference to say he gets along just fine with Joyner. I'm curious as to exactly what it would take for you to believe that the rumors were all wrong. Denials by all the parties involved, along with a vote of confidence in Joyner from the administration, apparently mean nothing to you. So what would?

You'd be hard pressed to find the documentation you are referring to. Ira Lubert is the overwhelmingly main reason Cael is here, that is far more documented than Joyner. I guess you could say that Joyner was at least involved. You know, he sat in on the meetings at Ira's SC house. The one where Joyner is a boarder since he is a bankrupt, failed surgeon. If those aren't qualifications to run one of the biggest AD's in the country, I don't know what is.

The bottom line is that even if you don't believe the rumors that multiple coaches at PSU dislike him, he is in no way qualified to hold the position he was handed. But when you are asked to be Judas and fulfill your task, you are rewarded in certain ways. I'd like to think he had trouble sleeping last night for his role on November 9, 2011, but the evidence suggests otherwise.

For myself, how about having a qualified person take over the interim job a year ago. If not Marc Sherburne, who it should have been but he didn't fall in line with the Board's whitewashing agenda, then another asst. AD who had experience in this field. But that's just my answer to your question.

Here is how you boot Joyner based on corporate speak.

Regardless of the past and opinion of Joyner, I think that most can agree that its time to plan transition to the permanant ad. An AD who is experienced and has the seasoned skill set to manage and 'maximize' the potential of an Ath. Dept of psu's scale.

Joyner had "led" us thru the time of crisis, now its time for a different (more conventional) skill set.

It doesn't because there is virtually no benefit to being a lame duck AD if you are already an assistant AD. It's like when a coordinator handles the HC duties for a bowl game when the former HC left for another gig. Rarely does that turn into a permanent HC job (or sets them up for one down the road).

But, let's be logical about this. 99.9% of the public has not heard about the BOB/Joyner rumor. What message would it send to get rid of your interim AD just bring in another interim AD? It just doesn't make sense at all. It's not going to happen.