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Joe Paterno did everything right.

  • And yet this crap world sends him out like that. Why try?

    Seriously. I may be in the minority, but I'm with you guys. Long live the legacy of JoePa.

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    Einstein

  • Einstein said...

    And yet this crap world sends him out like that. Why try?

    Seriously. I may be in the minority, but I'm with you guys. Long live the legacy of JoePa.

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    star69

  • Einstein said...

    And yet this crap world sends him out like that. Why try?

    Seriously. I may be in the minority, but I'm with you guys. Long live the legacy of JoePa.

    So if it had been your 10 year old son, brother, nephew being anally or orally raped by a 60 year old man in a shower, you'd feel that Paterno did enough after being told about it?

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  • My only question is ,,where have the parents been? If it was my sone or grandson or nephew, I would of moved heaven and earth to see justice done when it happened. But nothing till now. Didnt like JoePa,, but he is getting grief for doing right. The world is upside down.

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    ...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"

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  • Einstein said...

    And yet this crap world sends him out like that. Why try?

    Seriously. I may be in the minority, but I'm with you guys. Long live the legacy of JoePa.

    He didn't do everything he could. When last he spoke on this issue he said that he should have done more. All he had to do was notify the police. That being said, all anyone involved in this thing had to do was call the police. It is so sad.

    CarpeDiem

  • Boy, I'm tired of this stupid arguement. Joe Paterno is gone. Driven out by a tidal wave of accusations and innuendo. There is nothing else the BOT could have done but get rid of the lightening rod, Joe Paterno. Yes, they had to do that. What about the pervert Sandusky? What about the other 99 or so nobodies that knew and did nothing. The pervert Sandusky operated for many years with impunity. But now it's all Joe should have done this or Joe should have done that. Where is the outrage for the rest of them? If it ever comes out that Joe thought the police had been notified, I'm going to punch somebody.

    Nittany Sluggo

  • Nittany Sluggo said...

    If it ever comes out that Joe thought the police had been notified, I'm going to punch somebody.

    These guys let Sandusky continue to use the facilities for over a decade, as recent as last week. The inappropriate actions go way beyond whether he thought the police were called or not. They gave a child predator essentially carte blanche of the facilities.

    This post was edited by strez on 11/10/2011 at 7:46 AM

    strez

  • Clean up the entire place. Whoever was involved in the 2002 incident should be gone. Maybe the parents of the victims didn't look for justice because these kids had less than idea home lives thus why they were preyed upon

    hessel24

  • beav99_4life said...

    So if it had been your 10 year old son, brother, nephew being anally or orally raped by a 60 year old man in a shower, you'd feel that Paterno did enough after being told about it?

    The State Police, and the FBI, seem to think so. Go to your HR dept and ask for there take, then post...just saying.

    TpaFan

  • Einstein said...

    And yet this crap world sends him out like that. Why try?

    Seriously. I may be in the minority, but I'm with you guys. Long live the legacy of JoePa.

    "Did everything right"? He learns his coach is a pedophile and fails to alert the police. After that allows this scumbag to hang around his program until as latest as last week. "Everything right" WRONG!

    stumpper

  • Nittany Sluggo said...

    Boy, I'm tired of this stupid arguement. Joe Paterno is gone. Driven out by a tidal wave of accusations and innuendo. There is nothing else the BOT could have done but get rid of the lightening rod, Joe Paterno. Yes, they had to do that. What about the pervert Sandusky? What about the other 99 or so nobodies that knew and did nothing. The pervert Sandusky operated for many years with impunity. But now it's all Joe should have done this or Joe should have done that. Where is the outrage for the rest of them? If it ever comes out that Joe thought the police had been notified, I'm going to punch somebody.

    He ran Penn State. He was the final word. And he knowingly let a male child rapist use Penn State as a lure to rape and abuse kids for 7 years after he got info. That alone is the damning part. JoePa had the power to take jc down and stop it in 2002...unless the new reports about the pimping ring are true, which makes the disappearance of the prosecutor even sketchier.

    mentalstate

  • stumpper said...

    "Did everything right"? He learns his coach is a pedophile and fails to alert the police. After that allows this scumbag to hang around his program until as latest as last week. "Everything right" WRONG!

    To say Joe Paterno did everything right is a bit of a stretch with the benefit of hindsight.

    But it is kind of crazy in this world that an individual can legally follow the correct SOP and then Grand Jury findings are released stating this very thing. (Mind you there has been no trial and no one has been found guilty of anything). So you have a man that has a previously pristine record of leadership and character and he is found to be involved in a very emotionally riveting scandal in a manner that follows the letter of the law, yet he is fired.

    Crazy world we live in.

    Yet part of me knows that this was inevitable and probably most necessary.

    Sadly.

    VinegarBased63624

  • You're making a lot of assumptions in your rush to condemn the man. What did Joe know and when did he know it? Do you believe that Joe Paterno knew Sandusky to be a male child rapist and was willing to allow that to continue on Penn State property? Unbelievable.

    Do you believe Joe Paterno was all-powerful and could don his superman cape, fly to Sandusky's house, grab the perv and fling him into a jail cell? Unbelievable.

    And now you apparently believe new rumors about the perv pimping out kids? Unbelievable.

    It's amazing what people are willing to believe when it suits them. Let the facts speak for themselves without your embellishments.

    Nittany Sluggo

  • Nittany Sluggo said...

    Boy, I'm tired of this stupid arguement. Joe Paterno is gone. Driven out by a tidal wave of accusations and innuendo. There is nothing else the BOT could have done but get rid of the lightening rod, Joe Paterno. Yes, they had to do that. What about the pervert Sandusky? What about the other 99 or so nobodies that knew and did nothing. The pervert Sandusky operated for many years with impunity. But now it's all Joe should have done this or Joe should have done that. Where is the outrage for the rest of them? If it ever comes out that Joe thought the police had been notified, I'm going to punch somebody.

    I agree 100% . I feel like my first swipe would be at Stuart Scott if it could be. I can't keep writing the same things but i don't know what to with the range of emotions I have. People just keeping repeating the same media driven line. Mm saw Sandusky rape a boy in the shower went to paterno he did nothing and despite years of people believing he is a good man just allowed Jerry to remain on campus. Why ? We don't know because Joe is obviously a creep. Or to protect his friend. What they weren't really friends okay. Well to proctect Penn states image. Hmm great job of that Joe you couldn't remain mum when the gj asked if you knew anything. Something is missing that will hopefully come out maybe it exonerates maybe it's worse. For people to act like they have the whole story is absurd.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Gunslinger317 on 11/10/2011 at 11:26 AM

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  • Nittany Sluggo said...

    You're making a lot of assumptions in your rush to condemn the man. What did Joe know and when did he know it? Do you believe that Joe Paterno knew Sandusky to be a male child rapist and was willing to allow that to continue on Penn State property? Unbelievable.

    Do you believe Joe Paterno was all-powerful and could don his superman cape, fly to Sandusky's house, grab the perv and fling him into a jail cell? Unbelievable.

    And now you apparently believe new rumors about the perv pimping out kids? Unbelievable.

    It's amazing what people are willing to believe when it suits them. Let the facts speak for themselves without your embellishments.

    2004, the board tells JoePa to retire, he said "no."

    All reports are that JoePa was Penn State, and that he personally placed many members on the BoT.

    JoePa was directly told by the source who witnessed it in 2002 that a 10-year-old boy was sexually molested in the showers of the football facilities.

    Tell me what about this is wrong.

    mentalstate

  • Einstein said...

    And yet this crap world sends him out like that. Why try?

    Seriously. I may be in the minority, but I'm with you guys. Long live the legacy of JoePa.

    I don't know how old you are, or if you are a current student at PSU, or even a grad, but its time to take a step back and do some thinking.

    Again, I get why people are upset at the way this may have been handled. The phone call relieving him as head coach; the press conference by the BOT, the continued words of the media ripping Joe and not the guy who was the main focus of all this and the one who has ruined the PSU name in Jerry Sandusky, who seems to be the one who is lost in all of this, while Paterno is the main focus. I get it all.

    Joe's name is getting run through the mud now and people are saying that his legacy is crushed forever meaning this overrides everything he has done. There is no one in college football today that can claim to have made more of an impact on the game more than Joe. No, not Bo, or Switzer, or Bear, or Bowden, or Lou Holtz, or even Tom Osborne. You add in all his accomplishments, accolades, records, graduation rates - his thoughts on education, his community service and Humanitarian efforts ... you then add in the lives he personally touched as we have heard from Millen, Blackledge, Adam T. and more and this doesn't include the 15-year old kid from NW PA who received an autographed picture of him with a get well card once he found out I was injured with a mangled leg by a BOT member and his support and caring of Adam once that injury happened in Columbus. Then there is his donations and fundraising efforts for PSU and his efforts in the community of State College. There is NO coach in the country - whether it be any legend that ranks up with him (Bo, Woody, Bowden, Bear, Tom O., Lavelle Edwards or whoever) that comes close to what he has done to a respective school and community as far as giving. We can go on with this list for a long long time. Lots of good and lots of lives were touched.

    However, you can't help think that for all the good, for all the time and effort and for his soft heart, he will be known as the coach who needed to do more, whereas some of those coaches in similar status did 10-20% of what Joe did and they now become more relevant in the eyes of many.

    It goes to show what one lack of judgement event can do for one's legacy as fair or unfair as that comment may be. The one's that will continue to forget all the good that Joe has provided over the years, which will center around the usual suspects of fan bases, and remember him as the guy who didn't do enough are idiots as far as I'm concerned and quite frankly are irrational. Then again, those who forget the fact he needed to make one more call, aren't exactly being fair either.

    I still think the BOT made the right decision to not allow him to continue as head coach the rest of the season. Whether it caved to the media's or public opinion regarding this, I have no idea. However, it was best for the University as it tries to return from this horrific scandal. Having him on the sidelines would have sent a wrong message IMO, as much as I highly thought of the man who presided over PSU football for a long, long, long, long time.

    Hamilton Lion

  • mentalstate said...

    2004, the board tells JoePa to retire, he said "no."

    All reports are that JoePa was Penn State, and that he personally placed many members on the BoT.

    JoePa was directly told by the source who witnessed it in 2002 that a 10-year-old boy was sexually molested in the showers of the football facilities.

    Tell me what about this is wrong.

    I bow to your superior moral authority.

    Nittany Sluggo

  • mentalstate said...

    He ran Penn State. He was the final word. And he knowingly let a male child rapist use Penn State as a lure to rape and abuse kids for 7 years after he got info. That alone is the damning part. JoePa had the power to take jc down and stop it in 2002...unless the new reports about the pimping ring are true, which makes the disappearance of the prosecutor even sketchier.

    correction: He ran Penn State football.

    JS was not an employee of the program from 1999 on, GJ testimony says Paterno was never informed of the 1998 investigation funny how the guy you say "ran Penn State" was so peripheral to police matters that they didn't even bother to inform him on this isn't it?

    People attack Paterno because of what he is, an example of a man who has strived to live his whole live with integrity and honor. National media can move on to their next victim now, best pray it's not you or someone you care about in this "guilty by association" society in which we live.

    This post was edited by CRSPSU on 11/10/2011 at 11:33 AM

    CRSPSU

  • Friends, Penn Staters, countrymen, lend me your ears;
    I come to bury Joepa, not to praise him.
    The evil that men do lives after them;
    The good is oft interred with their bones;
    So let it be with Joepa. The noble mentalstate
    Hath told you Joepa was responsible:
    If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
    And grievously hath Joepa answer'd it.
    Here, under leave of mentalstate and the rest -
    For mentalstate is an honourable man;
    So are they all, all honourable men -
    Come I to speak in Joepa's demise.
    He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
    But mentalstate says he was responsible;
    And mentalstate is an honourable man.
    He hath brought many victories home to Happy Valley
    Whose ticket fees did the general coffers fill:
    Did this in Joepa seem greedy?
    When that the poor have cried, Joepa hath wept:
    Greed should be made of sterner stuff:
    Yet mentalstate says he was ambitious;
    And mentalstate is an honourable man.
    You all did see that on the football Saturdays
    ESPN presented him a kingly crown,
    Which he did thrice refuse: was this ambition?
    Yet mentalstate says he was ambitious;
    And, sure, he is an honourable man.
    I speak not to disprove what mentalstate spoke,
    But here I am to speak what I do know.
    You all did love him once, not without cause:
    What cause withholds you then, to mourn for him?
    O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
    And men have lost their reason. Bear with me;
    My heart is in the home there with Joepa,
    And I must pause till it come back to me.

    Nittany Sluggo