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Joe Paterno Press Conference (8/30)

  • FireJayPa said...

    Personal assaults, glad to see we are all mature here.

    Name calling is the last resort taken by someone that doesn't want a mature debate or discussion. Glad to see that's what kind of website we are running here.

    Dude it was an absolute joke relax.... I agree with nearly all of your posts so by that logic id be an idiot too... On a side note what could we have even debated? I think jay shouldn't be a coach and Joe should retire and I'm team bolden

    This post was edited by ejb5212 on 8/30/2011 at 1:31 PM

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  • FireJayPa said...

    Personal assaults, glad to see we are all mature here.

    Name calling is the last resort taken by someone that doesn't want a mature debate or discussion. Glad to see that's what kind of website we are running here.

    Get off the soapbox. You're the last one to talk about having a "mature discussion or debate".

    This post was edited by PK5 on 8/30/2011 at 1:31 PM

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    Why wouldn't they? If they were even at practice, why not see who is better in the game and go with that guy? If one is clearly better than the other, why would anyone think that the other guy would do better against Bama?

    Because if they are simply each getting a quarter in the 1st half, then a lot of other stuff dictates their success. The guy getting the start may be at a disadvantage as the running game may not be going yet or o-line. Field position can affect things in each quarter. Suppose McGloin gets 2nd quarter and we get a punt return early in that quarter, but the guy fumbles it? Suppose ISU somehow manages a 7 minute drive in the 2nd quarter while they barely had the ball in the 1st quarter.

    Using this as ANY gauge is just lame, IMO. Having to literally go INTO the season to figure out who the best guy is, rather than the previos 8 months, is just dumb.

    md154

  • Lang06 said...

    I love Joe Pa, but if spring practice would play such a huge part then why are we taking so long with the QB situation?

    Fish or cut bait.

    That quote bothered me, for RB, that his family wanted to know if he'd get a chance to play. That makes it sound like this 2 QB thing this week is simply to say "hey, i gave him a chance to play in week 1."

    md154

  • PK5 said...

    Get off the soapbox. You're the last one to talk about having a "mature discussion or debate".

    Right, because I go and personally insult people I disagree with. That's the last thing I do. I use factual evidence which people disagree with. It's fine, you don't have to agree with it - but you can at least be civil.

    I'll go back to watching Joe Pa let another player run wild with drugs or alcohol back on the team , if and only if the depth chart requires it. Ala Green, Johnson, Fera, etc etc.

    Heck, maybe there can be another fight at the Ice Rink and someone can throw an individual through a trophy case and barely miss any time.

    Or maybe we can have another break-in and assault and have the punishment be clean a portion of the stadium for a game or two.

    FireJayPa

  • md154 said...

    That quote bothered me, for RB, that his family wanted to know if he'd get a chance to play. That makes it sound like this 2 QB thing this week is simply to say "hey, i gave him a chance to play in week 1."

    I gave him a chance but Mac was the starter last year and Rob just didn't do enough to take the job away....we love him sitting on the bench and since he played in game one he can't use his red-shirt. Oh well, we'll revisit this next year guys.....

    FireJayPa

  • FireJayPa said...

    Right, because I go and personally insult people I disagree with. That's the last thing I do. I use factual evidence which people disagree with. It's fine, you don't have to agree with it - but you can at least be civil.

    I'll go back to watching Joe Pa let another player run wild with drugs or alcohol back on the team , if and only if the depth chart requires it. Ala Green, Johnson, Fera, etc etc.

    Heck, maybe there can be another fight at the Ice Rink and someone can throw an individual through a trophy case and barely miss any time.

    Or maybe we can have another break-in and assault and have the punishment be clean a portion of the stadium for a game or two.

    Quick, someone make a picture of Joe smoking with Green (awesome). Or him and Scirotto jumping a bunch of frat boys.

    Come on man, running wild with drugs? I was for joe not taking Stephfon back, but running wild. You talk like there was a cartel operation.

    You one of those guys that wants Urban Meyer? Hope not.

    MTayl72

  • FireJayPa said...

    Right, because I go and personally insult people I disagree with. That's the last thing I do. I use factual evidence which people disagree with. It's fine, you don't have to agree with it - but you can at least be civil.

    I'll go back to watching Joe Pa let another player run wild with drugs or alcohol back on the team , if and only if the depth chart requires it. Ala Green, Johnson, Fera, etc etc.

    Heck, maybe there can be another fight at the Ice Rink and someone can throw an individual through a trophy case and barely miss any time.

    Or maybe we can have another break-in and assault and have the punishment be clean a portion of the stadium for a game or two.

    Um, mind telling me what any of that has to do with you getting butthurt because someone called you an idiot (in a joking manner, nonetheless)?

    Sure you don't call people names, I never said you did. But every discussion you get into, it divulges into Joe and Jay ruining PSU...just like this one. Big shocker blah

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  • MTayl72 said...

    You one of those guys that wants Urban Meyer? Hope not.

    Easy there big fella, I can easily see that on the horizon................

    Hmmm, winter trip to Florida...........that could work.

    Driver2006

  • Driver2006 said...

    Easy there big fella, I can easily see that on the horizon................

    Hmmm, winter trip to Florida...........that could work.

    Didn't say I disliked Meyer, just saying he's just as lax with his player. Brandon Spikes' eye gouging incident...

    MTayl72

  • md154 said...

    Because if they are simply each getting a quarter in the 1st half, then a lot of other stuff dictates their success. The guy getting the start may be at a disadvantage as the running game may not be going yet or o-line. Field position can affect things in each quarter. Suppose McGloin gets 2nd quarter and we get a punt return early in that quarter, but the guy fumbles it? Suppose ISU somehow manages a 7 minute drive in the 2nd quarter while they barely had the ball in the 1st quarter.

    Using this as ANY gauge is just lame, IMO. Having to literally go INTO the season to figure out who the best guy is, rather than the previos 8 months, is just dumb.

    That's the thing, both QBs had a chance to win the job outright and neither could do it. So, why not prove it on the field?

    It's a competition. Sometimes in competitions, you only get one shot. Mess up, and you are done. Too bad... it's time to man up. If you really want it, prove it on the field. It's as simple as that.

    getmyjive11

  • Urban Meyer is going to tOSU and he has an entire year to build a dream team of assistant coaches. toot

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  • I like Dan Mullen myself.

    If we can't get Dungy.

    MTayl72

  • FireJayPa said...

    Right, because I go and personally insult people I disagree with. That's the last thing I do. I use factual evidence which people disagree with. It's fine, you don't have to agree with it - but you can at least be civil.

    Name calling isn't the only way someone can be immature and condescending in an argument.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    That's the thing, both QBs had a chance to win the job outright and neither could do it. So, why not prove it on the field?

    It's a competition. Sometimes in competitions, you only get one shot. Mess up, and you are done. Too bad... it's time to man up. If you really want it, prove it on the field. It's as simple as that.

    Could be wrong...but they've been on the field for the past 4 weeks and in spring practice. All that means nothing then. One game, against a horrible team, when conditions can be different for both guys at different points in the games......that matters more than weeks of watching them day in and day out? Sorry....makes no sense.

    It's nothing about proving it on the field, if you read my post. It's about situations IN GAMES having different circumstances where one guy may simply have more of an advantage than another guy. Doesn't matter who your horse is in the race, either of the QB's could be fortunate to get good field position all the time, while the other doesn't. It's one game...and to truly use it as a measuring stick is pathetic. Scrimmages in practice were against better competition than this one.

    md154

  • psufankc63 said...

    Urban Meyer is going to tOSU and he has an entire year to build a dream team of assistant coaches. toot

    The more and more I think about this, there is no way Meyer touches OSU. I thought the same as you do now until a few months ago when all the drama came out. There is a win at all cost mentality at OSU, the same philosophy he had in the SEC. His "health" related issues, which I have always linked to his wife taking a club to him for banging a coed, were probably the stress of coaching in the SEC and trying to maintain Florida as a power. OSU is no different than Gainesville.

    Hamilton Lion

  • md154 said...

    Could be wrong...but they've been on the field for the past 4 weeks and in spring practice. All that means nothing then. One game, against a horrible team, when conditions can be different for both guys at different points in the games......that matters more than weeks of watching them day in and day out? Sorry....makes no sense.

    It's nothing about proving it on the field, if you read my post. It's about situations IN GAMES having different circumstances where one guy may simply have more of an advantage than another guy. Doesn't matter who your horse is in the race, either of the QB's could be fortunate to get good field position all the time, while the other doesn't. It's one game...and to truly use it as a measuring stick is pathetic. Scrimmages in practice were against better competition than this one.

    md, my point is that they were basically even in practice, so you can't use that. Typically (99% of the time), yes, practice and scrimmages should determine the depth chat. But when guys are even, you have to go to the next thing which is live game action. There literally is no other way to determine it.

    getmyjive11

  • MTayl72 said...

    I like Dan Mullen myself.

    If we can't get Dungy.

    I like Danny boy as well. He has done a tremendous job at a school that usually fails miserably and is tough to recruit premium talent to. He has PA ties as well. He is young and energetic. That said, I just don't see PSU thinking a coach from the biggest whore house on earth, the SEC, is a good fit. I could be wrong, but ...

    Hamilton Lion

  • FireJayPa said...

    Personal assaults, glad to see we are all mature here.

    Name calling is the last resort taken by someone that doesn't want a mature debate or discussion. Glad to see that's what kind of website we are running here.

    That is rich given your handle.

    He didn't call you an idiot, so stop crying wolf.

    F the NCAA F the BOT F ESPN F Sandusky

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  • Hamilton Lion said...

    I like Danny boy as well. He has done a tremendous job at a school that usually fails miserably and is tough to recruit premium talent to. He has PA ties as well. He is young and energetic. That said, I just don't see PSU thinking a coach from the biggest whore house on earth, the SEC, is a good fit. I could be wrong, but ...

    Dan Mullen, to me is Urban with no drama and no negative player conduct (so far). I don't think over signing has been an issue, and I think he'd stick around here for a long time and do well.

    Unless there are real problems they better get over the SEC thing. Mullen hasn't sacrificed honor for success from what I've seen.

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    Dan Mullen, to me is Urban with no drama and no negative player conduct (so far). I don't think over signing has been an issue, and I think he'd stick around here for a long time and do well.

    Unless there are real problems they better get over the SEC thing. Mullen hasn't sacrificed honor for success from what I've seen.

    It's not Mullen ... its an SEC thing. Every program in that league, sans Vanderbilt, takes shortcuts. Mullen has worked at two schools that have been known to take these shortcuts. Its just my opinion as to if Mullen doesn't get a phone call when Joe hangs it up. I'm NOT a Meyer supporter at all either. I don't like one thing he stands for.

    Hamilton Lion

  • Hamilton Lion said...

    It's not Mullen ... its an SEC thing. Every program in that league, sans Vanderbilt, takes shortcuts. Mullen has worked at two schools that have been known to take these shortcuts. Its just my opinion as to if Mullen doesn't get a phone call when Joe hangs it up. I'm NOT a Meyer supporter at all either. I don't like one thing he stands for.

    Nah I get what you're saying it. I just don't like that's what we'll do.

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    Nah I get what you're saying it. I just don't like that's what we'll do.

    I know you understand what I'm saying. It doesn't dismiss what a tremendous job he has done at a dormant program like Mississippi State. I hope he gets a look, but I think the Cam Newton stuff that came out will bite him in the as*, if he is indeed interested. JMO.

    Hamilton Lion

  • cool The youngsters may not understand this..............but................Jackie Sherrill was loved at Miss St U.
    That makes up my mind!!

    jayer

  • getmyjive11 said...

    md, my point is that they were basically even in practice, so you can't use that. Typically (99% of the time), yes, practice and scrimmages should determine the depth chat. But when guys are even, you have to go to the next thing which is live game action. There literally is no other way to determine it.

    My point is when you start going with these one game showdowns nobody will ever feel comfortable...the team and offense included. It helps nobody. Pick a guy and ride him for some time.

    md154