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  • Boy do I hate to say that word!! I'm starting to believe that the sensible thing would be to name Tom Bradley the next head coach before the bowl game--this would allow the recruits to rest easy and the team feel more sure about themselves...

    Now, if the announcement isn't made before the bowl game, then that would make one to believe Bradley is NOT the next coach, and they will announce a coach on January 3rd..If they announce its not him before the game then that could make for even less interest by the players and more wondering by the coaches...

    Either way, Im prayng for the normal rumors-Munchak, Golden, Bradley, or Peterson
    Thoughts?????????

    mr intensity26349

  • I will be extremely disappointed if they waited all this time, only to name Bradley the head coach. It's nothing against Bradley, it's just that they shouldn't have spent so much time trying to get a big fish and have it not pan out. If that is the case and it doesn't pan out for a bigger fish, it's likely because of something on the candidates end but then my question is, why even pursue talks with them if there was no hope of a deal getting done? Seems like we are willing to pay top dollar for a coach, if need be, so money shouldn't even be a factor here for any of the candidates I would presume we are after.

    This post was edited by PSUjosh11 on 12/14/2011 at 10:44 AM

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  • mr. intensity said...

    Boy do I hate to say that word!! I'm starting to believe that the sensible thing would be to name Tom Bradley the next head coach before the bowl game--this would allow the recruits to rest easy and the team feel more sure about themselves...

    Now, if the announcement isn't made before the bowl game, then that would make one to believe Bradley is NOT the next coach, and they will announce a coach on January 3rd..If they announce its not him before the game then that could make for even less interest by the players and more wondering by the coaches...

    Either way, Im prayng for the normal rumors-Munchak, Golden, Bradley, or Peterson Thoughts?????????

    Could be the new coach keeps Bradley and defensive staff on board. To me, that is best case scenario.

    Munchak, he keeps entire D staff together. He takes care of o-line. Then brings in a good QB coach and OC and we roll from there. That keeps a lot of recruits here, especially defensive side. The key offensive players, whichever are still left anyway after graduation, will still be here...and with a nice splash of a QB coach or OC, we can land a few more on that side.

    I just want this D to stay where it has been

    md154

  • mr. intensity said...

    Boy do I hate to say that word!! I'm starting to believe that the sensible thing would be to name Tom Bradley the next head coach before the bowl game--this would allow the recruits to rest easy and the team feel more sure about themselves...

    Now, if the announcement isn't made before the bowl game, then that would make one to believe Bradley is NOT the next coach, and they will announce a coach on January 3rd..If they announce its not him before the game then that could make for even less interest by the players and more wondering by the coaches...

    Either way, Im prayng for the normal rumors-Munchak, Golden, Bradley, or Peterson Thoughts?????????

    You don't go all this way to just name Bradley as the head coach. If Bradley was the play by PSU, the dog and pony show would have ended; the secrecy would have ended a while back.

    Hamilton Lion

  • Hamilton Lion said...

    You don't go all this way to just name Bradley as the head coach. If Bradley was the play by PSU, the dog and pony show would have ended; the secrecy would have ended a while back.

    I totally agree. See my post above.

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  • PSUjosh11 said...

    I will be extremely disappointed if they waited all this time, only to name Bradley the head coach. It's nothing against Bradley, it's just that they shouldn't have spent so much time trying to get a big fish and have it not pan out. If that is the case and it doesn't pan out for a bigger fish, it's likely because of something on the candidates end but then my question is, why even pursue talks with them if there was no hope of a deal getting done? Seems like we are willing to pay top dollar for a coach, if need be, so money shouldn't even be a factor here for any of the candidates I would presume we are after.

    I agree!! I like Bradley a lot, but there is definitely a big fish in play here, and it is a mutual interest. I am leaning toward Petersen at this time. I would prefer Munchak, but the more I think about it, the more it does not make sense on his end. I think by the end of next week Petersen is out recruiting Player X and bringing him to HV where he belongs!!!

    ...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"

    paupacklion

  • Purely my opinion...

    It will be one of four guys...Munchak, Bradley, Golden, and my own mystery candidate. If Bradley or Golden, the announcement will come next week. If Munchak or the mystery candidate, Jan 3.

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  • Hamilton Lion said...

    You don't go all this way to just name Bradley as the head coach. If Bradley was the play by PSU, the dog and pony show would have ended; the secrecy would have ended a while back.

    While, I don't think it's Bradley either, a case could be made for waiting this long to announce Bradley. Suppose PSU knew about McQueary's credibility coming into question a few weeks ahead of us, maybe they wanted it to go public before announcing, or were confident the case will get thrown out on Friday, making it easier to announce Bradley and receive less back lash from the media. That's whats so frustrating about this search, you really can't make any accurate guesses as to what's going on.

  • Hamilton Lion said...

    You don't go all this way to just name Bradley as the head coach. If Bradley was the play by PSU, the dog and pony show would have ended; the secrecy would have ended a while back.

    Agree with this...So your feeling is Bradley is not the head coach??

    mr intensity26349

  • I'm still not buying Munchak. Can't see a career NFL coach, who's spent 30 years with the Titans/Oilers organization, and may have found a young franchise QB leaving.

  • Hamilton Lion said...

    You don't go all this way to just name Bradley as the head coach. If Bradley was the play by PSU, the dog and pony show would have ended; the secrecy would have ended a while back.

    Not true if they're chasing other fish. If deals with those fish fall through after weeks of negotiation, Bradley becomes the solid fall-back option. UM's search last year unfolded the same way.

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  • paupacklion said...

    I agree!! I like Bradley a lot, but there is definitely a big fish in play here, and it is a mutual interest. I am leaning toward Petersen at this time. I would prefer Munchak, but the more I think about it, the more it does not make sense on his end. I think by the end of next week Petersen is out recruiting Player X and bringing him to HV where he belongs!!!

    Got to ask and I'm curious in your response - why do you prefer Munchak over a Peterson?

    Player X doesn't come to Happy Valley because of Peterson. It depends on who the DL coach is. That said, LJ or not, I don't see player X coming to Happy Valley. Not buying PSU is still in the cards. He showed his cards with that tweet to me.

    Hamilton Lion

  • tdiddy said...

    Purely my opinion...

    It will be one of four guys...Munchak, Bradley, Golden, and my own mystery candidate. If Bradley or Golden, the announcement will come next week. If Munchak or the mystery candidate, Jan 3.

    Agreed. I think if it's Bradley or Golden an announcement could come at any time. If we don't have an announcement before the bowl game, it's someone bigger.

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  • 24_psustigs007 said...

    I'm still not buying Munchak. Can't see a career NFL coach, who's spent 30 years with the Titans/Oilers organization, and may have found a young franchise QB leaving.

    I agree with this. Taking Jake Locker out of the picture here though, I think your first sentence makes the most sense. He's been in the NFL for a very long time and has worked his way up from the bottom and is now a head coach. I have a hard time imagining he would want to leave that after putting in the hard work for so long to get to where he is at.

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  • Hamilton Lion said...

    Got to ask and I'm curious in your response - why do you prefer Munchak over a Peterson?

    Player X doesn't come to Happy Valley because of Peterson. It depends on who the DL coach is. That said, LJ or not, I don't see player X coming to Happy Valley. Not buying PSU is still in the cards. He showed his cards with that tweet to me.

    Yeah, the moment this scandal broke, all the hard work LJ Sr. has put in with Spence and his family for the last few years went out the door, real quick. Sadly. If you don't see Spence ending up in OSU, you're foolish. Ever since he talked to Urban for the first time, he gushed about him. He's visiting there this weekend after possibly winning the State Title. Meyer will end it this weekend, at least silently, IMO.

    Speaking of OSU, IF they do indeed land Spence like I believe they will, that will give them 3 Top247 DE's in this recruiting class...so that's fun.

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  • The longer this goes, the bigger name he better be. I would be willing to lose every recruit right now to get a big name. The recruits will come back at that point. Now if we wait until Jan. and hire the Harvard guy, then we will become Vandy and Duke.

    We Are27731

  • PSUjosh11 said...

    Agreed. I think if it's Bradley or Golden an announcement could come at any time. If we don't have an announcement before the bowl game, it's someone bigger.

    I wouldn't expect an announcement to be made the week between Christmas and New Year's. It will either happen next week or the week following the bowl game. If we wait until January, the splash better be monumental.

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  • We Are..... said...

    Now if we wait until Jan. and hire the Harvard guy, then we will become Vandy and Duke.

    They wouldn't wait for someone of that level of quality. They have common sense.

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  • Hamilton Lion said...

    Got to ask and I'm curious in your response - why do you prefer Munchak over a Peterson?

    Player X doesn't come to Happy Valley because of Peterson. It depends on who the DL coach is. That said, LJ or not, I don't see player X coming to Happy Valley. Not buying PSU is still in the cards. He showed his cards with that tweet to me.

    I just feel Munchak would lockdown PA with recruiting and let UM fight recruiting wars with Michigan and Michigan St to the west of us. His personality,integrity, and character are all first class. He is very humble. I went to the same HS as him and I grew up near the family. BTW, the poster who said his family said he is not interested.... that is out of character for the Munchaks...they would not say peep about anything on this. Our S&C conditioning would drastically improve as well...let's face it, Munchak and Matthews were bullies!!! I would be very happy with Petersen though, and my comment on X is wishful thinking!! I think he saw PSU enough and he obviously does not want to come here. No big deal.

    ...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"

    paupacklion

  • PSUjosh11 said...

    Yeah, the moment this scandal broke, all the hard work LJ Sr. has put in with Spence and his family for the last few years went out the door, real quick. Sadly. If you don't see Spence ending up in OSU, you're foolish. Ever since he talked to Urban for the first time, he gushed about him. He's visiting there this weekend after possibly winning the State Title. Meyer will end it this weekend, at least silently, IMO.

    Speaking of OSU, IF they do indeed land Spence like I believe they will, that will give them 3 Top247 DE's in this recruiting class...so that's fun.

    And that is why I think kids are being very short sided when they speak with Meyer. They see a name; they see a guy that has won titles; however, the fail to see the credibility issues with the man and the fact there is a good chance he won't be there by their senior year. Anyone who signs on the dotted line for Meyer is only doing it because of his name; not what he stands for.

    Hamilton Lion

  • tdiddy said...

    They wouldn't wait for someone of that level of quality. They have common sense.

    I'm just hoping they don't cave in to the media pressure and hire a no name like they want us to. Don't trust Erickson here. These academia types love nothing more than minimizing athletics and when given an opportunity they usually take it. Hope that the $$$$ the football program brings to the University trumps that in our situation as it usually does.

    We Are27731

  • tdiddy said...

    Purely my opinion...

    It will be one of four guys...Munchak, Bradley, Golden, and my own mystery candidate. If Bradley or Golden, the announcement will come next week. If Munchak or the mystery candidate, Jan 3.

    Pretty sound reasoning, IMO. I do think they've been trying for big fish. Whether they've been successful or not will be determined when they name the HC. I completely agree with diddy here.

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  • PSUjosh11 said...

    Yeah, the moment this scandal broke, all the hard work LJ Sr. has put in with Spence and his family for the last few years went out the door, real quick. Sadly. If you don't see Spence ending up in OSU, you're foolish. Ever since he talked to Urban for the first time, he gushed about him. He's visiting there this weekend after possibly winning the State Title. Meyer will end it this weekend, at least silently, IMO.

    Speaking of OSU, IF they do indeed land Spence like I believe they will, that will give them 3 Top247 DE's in this recruiting class...so that's fun.

    For all we know LJ may end up being his coach at OSU...censored

    ...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"

    paupacklion

  • We Are..... said...

    The longer this goes, the bigger name he better be. I would be willing to lose every recruit right now to get a big name. The recruits will come back at that point. Now if we wait until Jan. and hire the Harvard guy, then we will become Vandy and Duke.

    I would hope the higher ups have sense and know what happens to the school; to the football program and to the entire athletic department, if they wait this long and make a hire like that. That would be a self-imposed death penalty not only for the football program, but the entire athletic department since football pays the bills and the lack of interest in the program as well as donations would dwindle like you wouldn't believe.

    Vandy seems to be heading in the right direction under franklin.

    Hamilton Lion

  • We Are..... said...

    I'm just hoping they don't cave in to the media pressure and hire a no name like they want us to. Don't trust Erickson here. These academia types love nothing more than minimizing athletics and when given an opportunity they usually take it. Hope that the $$$$ the football program brings to the University trumps that in our situation as it usually does.

    I just don't see how Erickson overrides Joyner/Ira with the final decision. He admittedly does not know nor care much about the AD. He'll obviously meet with their recommendations, but I don't forsee him influencing the final decision as much as others are forecasting.

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