The Lions' Pride

Moxie is intelligent and competitive, probably to a fault. Those 2 attributes have helped him learn the system and execute in the new system. BoB & Co. have tailored the system to Matt's strengths. And these have helped Matt greatly overcome his shortcomings. IMO

If Bench & Hack are as intelligent and competitive as Moxie, they both have greater skill sets. I'm excited to watch how they develop under BO'B.

on saturday, matt was throwing the ball up to robinson and letting him go get it. he has helped make matt look better this season. i give mcgloin some credit for the turnaround, but obrien's offense combined with some unlikely skills players stepping up (carter, zwinack, lehman) have really sparked this offense.

Agree. It's as if some only see his flaws. He has been great about extending plays and buying time this year. He hasn't forced the ball any more than any other QB walking the planet IMO. He's cut down on many of his bad habbits quite a bit. I hope PSU has a QB next year that is playing at his level, but ***'s next to a kids name is a dangerous thing. Bolden, Jones, and AM all come to mind. Million dollar arms are great to sign, but what is in there head is what makes a QB. Apparently MM's work ethic in the meeting room and desire to get better is what separated him from the other 2. I can only hope that Hack, Bench, or Waters can play where MM has played this year. I doubt they will in year 1, but that is expected from younger QB's.

Calling McGloin not good makes you look insane. Never give him credit for the plays he makes.

Egads, man.

I almost always agree with your posts, lcl, but I have to say "wow" to you on this thread.

It's all relative, and the fact is about 99% of college QBs make bad decisions A LOT. Miss open receivers A LOT. Can't make A LOT of throws. Lock on to their first read A LOT. Your post implies that MM does these things more than others. That simply isn't true. If I'm reading your posts correctly, you're WAAAAAAAAY overrating his peers.

The FACT is, the last staff didn't help MM (or any other PSU QB for that matter) AT ALL. In fact, they were a detriment to our QBs.

Now that he's been helped with some actual game planning, some actual intelligence applied to the route combination development, and play-calling that generally makes sense, he's been able to approach his potential. And the FACT is, while he's no Andrew Luck, he's simply a helluva lot better than the vast majority of other college football QBs. I'm not saying he's the most physically gifted and never makes mistakes, but if you can't see that he's outplaying the vast majority of his peers, you just aren't watching.

McGloin is good. However, he has obvious limitations - one being arm strength. Not putting him down, because I always preferred accuracy to arm strength when looking at prospects (either high school or college). Also doesn't have much mobility, which means fewer bootlegs, rollouts, etc.

I know what LCL is saying and I think a new QB, whether Waters, Hack, Bench, etc., will open up the playbook a little more in terms of what you can do.

Martinez, Miller, and D. Robinson have made careers of just throwing the ball in spots for their wideouts to make plays. Terrelle Pryor was not a good quarterback, but Devier Posey bailed him out all the time making him look good. He bailed out Miller last year against us. Matt is a solid quarterback and has done a hell of a job this year. That quarterback rotation crap killed him last year.