The Lions' Pride

it did happen to one of those companies....ESPN with the Syracuse scandal. May have turned out to be untrue, but still doesnt change the fact ESPN held onto what appeared to be a taped confesssion for 8 years, without reporting it.

It is interesting that the "king Football" mentality is what they are blaming for a lot of this but if you look at the main force driving that it has always been the media.

I think Lion in Cbus is absolutely correct. People are using this to say hey - "we made sure they were punished and did the right thing" and then they can walk away feeling good about themselves and not think about a topic that no one wants to acknowledge.

If you really want to make this better, don't try and make this go away, make sure the issue (child abuse, not PSU) stays at the forefront. Help kids come forward, help adults feel like they can come forward and question something they think is not right. I have said this before but people seem to think they would always do the right thing but the simple fact is, they very often don't. Ask a cop how many times they talk to people that were in a position to stop abuse and didn't. The number of people that will say I didn't want to falsely accuse or I just didn't want to believe it is astonishing. These people hate themselves for it or will steadfastly refuse to believe it cause they can not handle the truth of the matter.

This is the attitude that needs to change and it won't be done by giving a football program the DP and walking away. The media has a tremendous amount of power, it would be nice to see them use it the right way here.

I apologize if your lack of reading comprehension skills led you to misunderstand my post.

I did not, and not will not ever say that PSU has no blame in this. The most powerful men in the school allowed a monster to continue abusing kids. The BOT has many questions to answer about what they knew and what they did imo. There are probably some that heard rumours or have stories like the janitors that saw something but were afraid of getting fired. The organization has plenty of blame and the civil courts are going to put a very large number on that blame.

What the post was about was the now that the subject of child sexual abuse is recieving international attention perhaps the media that helped create these football gods could start to help victims of child abuse find it easier to come forward, make it more acceptable for peopel that suspect it to report it, raise awareness of how widespread this is and how destructive it is to our society. My point was that people bury their heads in the sand when child sexual abuse is suspects and as a result kids suffer. The media is in a better position than anyone to try and change this attitude and educate the public to this subject.

I guess my question to you would be what have you done to prevent child sexual abuse, help a victim or raise awareness? It may be your lifes work and if so, good for you, but if you answer is that you came to a PSU website to bash people then I don't really know what to say. 500 000 or so PSU students and alumni knew as much as you about this a year ago. They are as horrified, if not more so becasue it happened at their school, about this as you and the rest of the public. They however are raising record amounts of money for organizations to help fight child sexual abuse and help victims. Again, how about you??

From your moniker I would guess you think the 409 wins should be vacated, I could care less, I don't see how it helps stop child sexual abuse but fill your boots. You probably want the D.P. for PSU football, again, not sure how that helps the real problem but if it does, I can live with that. Personally I think that it would have the effect of making it harder for people to come forward in a similar situation but whatever. It's football, I love it, but it does not matter more than our children.

Happy Trolling.

While you're playing the what if game.... Do you think Joe Paterno would have used all the power he had to stop this if it was say one of his grandkids? Would he have seen a problem with this if it was his family and not just some random kids from lower income homes? Just curious while you're all playing what ifs.

I must have missed where anyone said that Joe shouldn't have done more.

What if so many people weren't useless? There's a question to ponder.

I don't know but I am guessing these trips weren't pitched as a play date/sleepover. He was using the prestige of Penn State football to attract these kids to the program. The backstage/behind the scenes access that any young fan would love for. Using access to the program and players (i.e. Lavar Arrington) is how he got access to these victims, not a "play date." He used the Penn State football program to lure the kids from The Second Mile to place where they were most vulnerable. But that is very classy of you to place as much blame on the parents as you do Joe Paterno.

Read Mother F'er

You should have stopped after your first sentence. I'll keep my tag because it's my opinion. Just my thinking.