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RoboBuckeye said...
I think the OOC scheduling goes with the toughness of the conference...when the conference overall is down, you see AD's schedule better OOC games...
But, with that said, tOSU has played home and home with Texas, USC, MIami, just in last 10 years, when Cal was scheduled (8 years ago) they weren't bad.....Who knows how good someone is going to be when the game actually comes around...hell, we just scheduled OOC games for 2020-2023....the kids playing in those games are 7-10 years old right now....
One good thing Gene Smith is doing right now is trying to get away from playing the MAC schools as it will be detrimental when the 4 teams are chosed for playoffs....Not that he's going to replace them with Alabama, but at least schedule a BCS school....it does show better in SOS at end of the year...might be the difference in getting that 4th spot in playoff with a 1 loss team.....
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Texas Lion said...
No I get it.
OU had to bump up their SOS the past few seasons as the Big 12 got weaker. Its natural for every program, but I hate it when teams use that excuse. Florida fans always say the reason they never leave Florida for OOC games is that the "SEC is so tough," and every SEC team seems to have that mantra outside of Alabama and LSU. IMO the reason they do this is because they don't want an OOC loss that would make the conference look bad. JMO, and honestly probably a conspiracy theory. I hate not seeing an SEC mid-level team play another BCS school, so we could actually see if the SEC really is tougher top to bottom than other conferences.
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Texas Lion said...
You have no idea how much I enjoyed that. I can't stand aTm or their fans, but I was rooting for them today. I also like seeing Mizzou succeed, although they're not doing too well so far. In case you can't tell, I still root for the Big 12 and against the SEC, and it makes me so happy that OU and Texas' little
is doing very well there. Proves that the crap about the SEC being the best because their mid-level teams are so much better than everybody else's is a load of bull.
Alabama took a step back from last season, whether people admit it or not. Still a darn good team, but not quite what they were last season. They got exposed by the first really good QB they've faced this season. Thank god it knocked the SEC out of the mNC race.
This post was edited by RoboBuckeye on 11/10/2012 at 10:11 PM
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RoboBuckeye said...
Well, the SEC's best (Bama) got beat, at Home, by a Big 12 team tonight....I don't believe A&M suddenly got a whole lot better just by joining the SEC, so that was pretty much a BIG 12 offense that Bama got rolled by tonight...
That game alone made me a believer that Oregon would score quite a bit on Alabama...
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Hamilton Lion said...
Before today, I was a believer that Oregon could put up 35-40 easily on Bama.
Bama was on borrowed time IMO for a loss. This was the last chance though in the regular season for a loss since directional Carolina (not North or South or East) is on tap next then that abortion from The Plains, who looked awful against Georgia.
A&M could be ready to make a nice jump nationally after that victory. I'm starting to believe they can steal some studs that normally would go to Austin.
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RoboBuckeye said...
I have said for the last few years that the media (polls) are the sole reason that the SEC stays relevent...think about it, any time one of them loses, they only drop a few spots, staying in the top 10. So your top 10 is loaded with 5 SEC schools, thus beating each other just switches their ranking, they never drop out of the top 10.That way any loss an SEC team has is to a top 10 team.....you can't tell me that Florida deserves its ranking...they are only ranked there because they are in the SEC...if they were in the Big 12 or Pac 10 they'd be 12 or 13...It's all smoke and mirrors because ESPN has so much invested in broadcasting the SEC games...South Carolina got rolled twice, still in top 10...LSU loses twice, still in top 10, it's all a scam...
If you look at the SEC's record against all other BCS conferences over the last 10 years, they are about .500....even against the "Lowly" BIG Ten....
And the fact they won't travel north of the Mason Dixon line to play an OOC game that speaks volumes to me....they either play at home, or a "neutral" site if it's a northern team...They talk about SOS, but look at Alabama's schedule this year...OOC was a joke, and they don't play Florida or Georgia...every year, their one tough game is LSU..... Texas A&M caught them this year with an offense the SEC hasn't seen...made their NFL defense look pedestrian....I loved it..
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Texas Lion said...
Pretty annoying for me about that, actually. A&M is all of a sudden in the conversation for guys that OU only had to battle Texas for. Ugh.
At least if Texas falls nationally, OU could just go head to head with aTm in recruiting battles and maybe some OOC games, which is a battle OU has won often since Bobby got to town.
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Texas Lion said...
The most egregious offense and example of this was Tennessee, who went something like 5-7 last season and came into this season as a top 25 team. No. They are not a good football team, and are showing it again this season. South Carolina isn't a top 10 team without Lattimore, and with the way they were using him this season there is an argument for them not being a top 10 team with him.
Their best teams have been better than other conferences' best teams the past five or six years, so they get the crown. As a whole though, I don't see what differentiates a school like Ole Miss and one like Cal. Or Tennessee and a school like Baylor. Kentucky and Indiana, etc. etc..
They don't play OOC games on the road because they have found out they don't have to. They can play Towson in Tuscaloosa or Gainesville or Athens, or play a decent but not good BCS school in Atlanta or Dallas, and the media will still harp on their "incredible strength of schedule."
I did too. Always nice to see the SEC get exposed. 8 times out of 10 Bama beats aTm, and is clearly the better football team as a whole, but it was fun to see them lose the way they did.
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Mack strikes me as someone like Paterno when he was having his struggles. He thinks he is still the answer and can fix it. For a long time, Mack was all about loyalty and kept under performing assistants. Now that Texas isn't the dominant force, he is using two of his assistants as scape goats per year. I'm glad he used our OL coach as a scape goat - other wise he'd still be in Austin.
Mack is also a guy that strike me as he doesn't have to work hard in recruiting. He knows these kids all want to play for UT, thus they come to him, or his assistants do the work.
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Hamilton Lion said...
Tennessee didn't deserve a pre season ranking. No way in hell. However, people were infatuated with Tyler Bray, Hunter and Patterson at wide out and thought the defense would improve under Sunseri. The offense is pretty darn good, but defense sucks ass. Glad to see Mizzou take it to them. Both my sisters are happy since they are Mizzou grads.
I don't think South Carolina is that good. We saw them get absolutely pounded twice with Lattimore in there. That vaunted defense is still good, but not all that and a bag of chips.
I see Ole Miss on the upswing, while Cal is status quo - alot of talent, but can't do anything; I can see Tennessee returning to national prominence with the RIGHT hire, while Baylor will continue to put up 45 points and give up 50 per game.
Kentucky and Indiana should really stick to basketball, so I see nothing that differentiates there.
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