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How many years will BO'B REALISTICALLY stay?

  • With 3 NFL teams showing interest after just one year, it is hard to believe that BO'B will finish out his contract. This is almost a guarantee. However, the question becomes, how long will it be until a LEGIT NFL team offers O'Brien and he accepts (and no I'm not talking about a team like the Browns). If he were to leave after just one year, this would have devastated the program, and you could be sure most of the 2013 recruits, as well as current Juniors and Seniors, would be gone withing weeks. Luckily that's not happening.
    But what about when a desperate Owner like Jerry Jones fires a Jason Garrett and is willing to pay the buyout as well as offer $5+mil a year; this is when things get dicey.
    Many fans are expecting BO'B to have success despite the sanctions, so I believe you have to look at it 2 ways:
    (1) If BO'B overcomes the sanctions and rattles off another 8-4 season, (with possibly less talent and scholarships then he had in 2012) then you better believe more NFL teams will be calling. Its almost bittersweet: the better he coaches, the more likely an NFL team empties the bank to swoop in and take him.
    (2) The team under-performs and PSU goes 6-6 or worse. Obviously this sucks from a fan perspective, ticket sales will go down, and top-recruits will be less willing to chose PSU over the other B1G powerhouses, but it will keep the more successful BCS coaches (ie Saban, Chip Kelly, etc) and NFL OC's ahead of him when offered by NFL coaching vacancies; this is the most likely scenario for BO'B to stay longer. But like I said, what fan wants .500 seasons? Not many.

    So the question becomes... With BO'B likely to EVENTUALLY leave for the NFL (only God knows when) will it be 3 years down the road after a few 8-4 or 9-3 seasons? or are you willing to sacrifice 5-7 or 6-6 seasons to allow the program to re-stabilize? OR are there any fans out there that would have preferred him to leave now, knowing that since it will eventually happen, maybe it is better "sooner, rather than later"?
    Realistically I think the schedule is usually favorable enough where PSU is not looking at many below .500 seasons. Therefore, I do not see BO'B sticking around before Hackenberg graduates.
    In my honest opinion I see 2 more solid years with a winning record, which will force NFL owners to pay lots of money for his services. Remember you can't have your cake and eat it too. The more BO'B wins... the sooner I think hes gone.
    Thoughts?

    Mav31

  • BOB's NFL interest will only decrease, unless we somehow manage to have big seasons during the sanctions.This was his best chance to jump to the league.

    IMO, if we come out of the sanctions and improve quickly, he'll be here as long as we want him. Only thing which changes that is the Patriots job, but he'll be just one of many who covet that job.

    new-era said... Psu doesnt have enough to beat the conferences better teams and wiscy is one of them.

    leftcoastlion

  • I think BOB hangs around for a while. Don't forget, his wife and family really like it here. He also has great support for his son(don't underestimate this).

    He clearly like this opportunity enough to turn down multiple NFL opportunities two years in a row. Just like some say with a recruit, watch more want he does, than what he or his agent may say.

    This post was edited by PSUHomer on 1/5/2013 at 5:44 PM

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    PSUHomer

  • Call me nieve but if BOB wanted to go to the NFL that badly this would have been the year to do it because alot of people outside of PSU would have understood based on the sanctions. Now that he has his raise and extension, along with the other concessions from the PSU administration, he knows what he's signed up for. Will he be here for 20 years? Probably not but I think he sticks around till atleast Hackenberg and Breneman are gone and sees PSU through the sanctions with the possibility of staying a few years at PSU without sanctions to try and win big. I preface this all on PSUs admin giving BOB want he needs to be successful. If PSU goes cheap or gives him a hard time about stuff I could see him leaving sooner.

    To answer your other question, I want PSU to win as many games as possible because that will be the only way to stay competitive and attractive high profile recruits.

    PSUJT0409

  • I think the opposite will happen. He already stated that he "might get fired in 6 six years" which is, IMO, a strong indicator that he wants to stay long term. He also stated earlier that he wants to stay long term. We're all just a bit gun-shy right now and see danger in success. I think it will work the other way: the longer he stays, the more success he has, the more entrenched his family becomes in this wonderful community...the harder it will be for him to break away. Just my 2 cents.

    This post was edited by PHD77 on 1/5/2013 at 5:47 PM

    PHD77

  • I think at least 4 more years.

    After that who knows. I have to think, that being "the man" at PSU is intriguing. But he may also want to try the NFL at some point.

    bonovoxpsu

  • When will any coach leave? When will Snyder retire, Urban get a headache, Kelly decide to give the NFL a go? Nobody knows. Coaches leave schools all the time for a variety of reasons; no coach can truly promise anything. BOB may stay for a few years or a decade. Hell, the fans may be calling for his resignation by the end. That is why recruits need to remember they are choosing a school and community for the next four or so years, not a coach, when they commit.

    BlkShoeCole

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  • bonovoxpsu said...

    I think at least 4 more years.

    After that who knows. I have to think, that being "the man" at PSU is intriguing. But he may also want to try the NFL at some point.

    I'm with you. I think at 4-5 more years is reasonable.

    I do think OB would be interested to see what he could do without any sanctions.

    PSU17

  • Ask yourself one important question:

    Where does he have more job security? At Penn State or in the NFL ? He could be gone after 2 years in the NFL, where 20-25% of the coaches get fired over that time span.

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    I_Billieve

  • I think 2 or 3 years at most.

    doc6948299

  • PSU17 said...

    I'm with you. I think at 4-5 more years is reasonable.

    I do think OB would be interested to see what he could do without any sanctions.

    Without the sanctions I think he easily would have secured a few more 4star prospects and had a top 15 recruiting class.
    Not quite the Michigan recruiting class (which is absurdly good) but could have easily become a mainstay in the B1G title game within a year or 2.

    Mav31

  • If he thinks being an NFL HC will bring him some measure of fulfillment, only a couple of years.

    If he can find that fulfillment here at PSU, with all that it has to offer, as long as he wants.

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    PSU42Fan

  • How many years will BOB stay, REALISTICALLY?

    If history is any indicator I would say anywhere between 2 and 46 years. Kinda like predicting who will be the next President after Obama's 2nd term. Way to premature to speculate, IMO.

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    psufankc63

  • I think as long as he gets us through this season it really doesn't matter. It seems to me the events of the last week may go down as the most important in recent PSU sports history. For all of JoePa's greatness the athletic department clearly lagged behind much of the nation as far as reacting to modern technology and marketing techniques...not to mention transparency. And because Joe was basically a walking advertisement for PSU football it didn't really much matter. However, the loss of Joe clearly exploited all of those weaknesses and BOB has set out to fix them. To me this is about making it easier for him to do his job and to compete with the big boys again but also to make positive and permanent changes to the program. This, along with the years of sanctions slowly passing us by, should make the job that much more attractive to his successor.

    So to answer the question...I think he'd love to stay here but if he doesn't we'll be fine.

    CZ148

  • 1 season, he'll be coaching Bama next year after Saban leaves for the Browns.
    Edit: guess I should've added this sarcasm

    This post was edited by ejb5212 on 1/5/2013 at 8:17 PM

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    ejb5212

  • If he gets everything he asked for, or at least most of it, doesn't it decrease his desire to leave? The guy is trying to make a better overall athletic department at PSU, not just a cash grab for himself. That makes me think he is here at least 5 more.

    kjc15600

  • My thought would be after 3 to 5 years it will matter less. Not because he won't be successful because I think he will. He's not just a glass half full guy but he's also looking around for the pitcher to fill the glass back up. Meaning he's a smart, outside the box thinker that will find solutions to problems that others would be stopped by. This and other characteristics of his make up will keep him successful. More successful than many of you think he can be over the next few years.
    Now my reference to mattering less after 3 to 5 years refers to roughly the time it will take for the O'Brien way to become the Penn State way. Not just his offensive and defensive philosophies but his way of doing things from A to Z. By that time, certain current coaches or future coaches will become clones of O'Brien's successful formula. There will evolve one or more able to carry it forward with success. I don't think he will leave before this point.
    At this point, shed the handicap of the sanctions, IMO, Coach O'Brien will then have to decide whether he wants to move to a more "national" level of competition, a true top 5 program competing for BCS titles almost yearly or does he want to leave the program strong in the very capable hands of a successor and move on to the NFL and a new challenge. Whichever way he decides to go Penn State will be strong, stable and thriving. If he does decide to leave his conscience will be clear. If he decides to stay he will have set the groundwork and have the momentum to compete with the Alabamas of the college football world. That's how strongly I feel Coach O'Brien is a once in a generation type coach.

    This post was edited by Michael995 on 1/5/2013 at 6:59 PM

    Michael995

  • Pretty much everything I've seen from BOB indicates he likes the college game and wants to stick around. Not sure I want to get my hopes up and believe it, but that's what the evidence tells me.

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    psubills62

  • I think Trock made the point in the other thread that BOB played this in order to set up the program for long term success. Why play high stakes chicken to build the program if you are not planning on staying. Not saying he wouldn't leave for the perfect opportunity, but I would agree with Trock's analysis that his plan is to be here for a while.

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    PSUfaninOnt

  • I think he stays 5-10 years. He wants to build this program into something big for after the sanctions so he will be here at least a few years after that.

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    PSUjosh11

  • PSUjosh11 said...

    I think he stays 5-10 years. He wants to build this program into something big for after the sanctions so he will be here at least a few years after that.

    Agreed. This is a project to him. He never intended on leaving, Hackenburg said BOB was upfront on what he was fighting for. If he is fighting for things he felt were just, his intentions were not to leave. Hackenburg was his first catch. I cannot imagine him leaving before seeing his end product. I actually spoke to a guy tail gaiting this year who knows Hackenburg's family. He said BOB told his parents he would make him the next Tom Brady. At a minimum, that puts him 4-5 more years if he sees that through. By then, he is a rock star. He is also a smart guy. NFL jobs are open for a reason - the team stinks. A crappy NFL team with a short life span versus his job is his in Happy Valley as long as he wants it. That is huge.

    2017Champions

  • PSUfaninOnt said...

    I think Trock made the point in the other thread that BOB played this in order to set up the program for long term success. Why play high stakes chicken to build the program if you are not planning on staying. Not saying he wouldn't leave for the perfect opportunity, but I would agree with Trock's analysis that his plan is to be here for a while.

    Also, IMO, red shirting Hackenburg and Breneman is a good indicator of his coaching plans being long term.

    2017Champions

  • Based on his actions ... going the extra mile to get the AD canned as well as possibly others, I'd say this isn't a one or two year deal. No one does the power play he did and sticks around one or two more years.

    Hamilton Lion

  • I say 10 years. I think he wants to see the program through sanctions and then see what he can do without limitations. I am not if the mind that he coaches during crappy sanctions and leaves as they get lifted.

    Blissios