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chunkfat8 said...
He had one mediocre year? Also Carlos Hyde has gotten 100 yard games this year. And many people especially OSU fans wouldn't mind one bit if Guiton had to take over QB duties.
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Hamilton Lion said...
Who's job was it to help develop the QB. It's Meyer. John Brantley was supposed to be a Heisman type of QB coming out of high school. The kid flopped. Florida's roster, talent wise, wasn't as strong as it was. Many high end recruits didn't live up to expectations. The cupboard was bare in Gainesville by Florida standards.
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NevadaNittany said...
All those high end recruits are living up to expectations. Elam, Powell, Easley, Floyd and Jenkins, when healthy, have all made a big impact on defense.
And kids flop, it does happen. You think because Brantley didn't live up to hype all of a sudden Meyer led that team to shambles?
I agree the offensive cupboard was bare but every single player on this years team that is making an impact was recruited by Meyer. Truth is the truth, he didn't leave the team that devoid of talent.
This post was edited by Hamilton Lion on 10/24/2012 at 3:34 PM
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Goalieman688 said...
I do not think he was ever our dream coach...there were SO Many rumors floating around as to who the next coach would be including Meyer...a lot of the regular posters on here were not a fan of him. I am sure we are jealous..both teams are playing well and it should be a great game Saturday...
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nittanylionfan said...
No one is questioning Urban's ability to recruit great players. What people are questioning is his coaching ability and ability to manage those players. It sounds from this article that his management of his players caused issues. It is also worth pointing out that he's only ever succeeded when he had excpetional QBs (Tebow and Smith). He had numerous blue chip QBs after Tebow at UF but couldn't win.
They don't have anyone new on the UF roster this year. They are #2 because Muschamp has finally weeded out those that wouldn't fall in line and has gotten the rest to buy in to his system and he's finally coached up Driskel. Do you really think OSU would be doing as well this year if Braxton Miller was a wonderkid? His defense sucks royally, even though it is stocked with 4/5 star prospects. He's loaded with top RB prospects, but just like at UF, they don't have any running game outside of when their QB totes the rock.
It will be very interesting to see what happens in 2-3 years when Miller is no longer on the team. Very, very interesting. We all know Urban can't handle losing.
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nittanylionfan said...
No one is questioning Urban's ability to recruit great players. What people are questioning is his coaching ability and ability to manage those players. It sounds from this article that his management of his players caused issues. It is also worth pointing out that he's only ever succeeded when he had excpetional QBs (Tebow and Smith). He had numerous blue chip QBs after Tebow at UF but couldn't win.
They don't have anyone new on the UF roster this year. They are #2 because Muschamp has finally weeded out those that wouldn't fall in line and has gotten the rest to buy in to his system and he's finally coached up Driskel. Do you really think OSU would be doing as well this year if Braxton Miller was a wonderkid? His defense sucks royally, even though it is stocked with 4/5 star prospects. He's loaded with top RB prospects, but just like at UF, they don't have any running game outside of when their QB totes the rock.
It will be very interesting to see what happens in 2-3 years when Miller is no longer on the team. Very, very interesting. We all know Urban can't handle losing.
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NevadaNittany said...
All those high end recruits are living up to expectations. Elam, Powell, Easley, Floyd and Jenkins, when healthy, have all made a big impact on defense.
And kids flop, it does happen. You think because Brantley didn't live up to hype all of a sudden Meyer led that team to shambles?
I agree the offensive cupboard was bare but every single player on this years team that is making an impact was recruited by Meyer. Truth is the truth, he didn't leave the team that devoid of talent.
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sb144904 said...
lol bring on the downvotes because you dont know anything about ohio state football clearly. i was reading this objectively but your post wreaks of ignorance about our program and urban meyer. not that im an expert on your program by any means but i for certain dont post ridiculous statements about another team like you just did
This post was edited by Hamilton Lion on 10/24/2012 at 7:34 PM
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Hamilton Lion said...
Sounds like the vast majority of OSU fans doesn't know anything about PSU football, and posts reak of ignorance about our program. Remember, this is a PSU board, not an OSU board. There are thousands of ridiculous posts and statements about PSU over there. Remember where you are right now. One of your idiots comes over and predicted a 45-17 OSU victory because this is the slowest PSU team he has ever seen. Sound ridiculous? Absolutely.
We aren't here to appease OSU and its fans/posters. You guys have posted a variety of vile stuff about this program filled with ridiculousness, so what's the difference if you don't like his post?
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sb144904 said...
notice my next post which was immediately after the one you quoted. i acknowledge that we have more than our fair share of morons. i just choose not to post in a similar fashion. i also thanked other posters for stating things objectively not only in my last post, but also in PMs very often. i love sports and sports talk but cant stand homers even though i suppose because i like OSU i would be considered one. i like unbiased, educated, and yes opinionated sports conversation. i just find it humorous yet annoying when any fan or commentator lets ignorance dominate conversation and be presumed as fact, as always i appreciate this boards and all boards for their spirited conversation, i would just encourage all posters on all boards to be as respectful as possible
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holstein51 said...
It would be sad to see a team that was full of integrity under Coach Tressel thrown to the dogs. Yes there were violations but letting a kid help his hungry family is not a character flaw, it i s a n NCAA flaw. What Big Ten program will they find next???? Imagine if NC, Miami, and some other schools in other divisions had been in the Big Ten...
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How long till OSU looks like this