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Hockey Adds Two More for 2012...

  • We introduced you to former Gopher Max Gardiner and St. Louis native Joe Lordo a few months back, now each has signed their letter of intent to play at Penn State this fall.

    Gadowsky on Gardiner: "Max comes to Penn State with a lot of college and junior hockey experience, and we expect him to be an impact player for us," added Gadowsky. "He has great size, moves very well for a big man and should be able to play in all situations."

    Gardiner scored 26 points (12 goals, 14 assists) in 50 games this season for Dubuque in the USHL, and was picked in the 3rd round of the 2010 NHL Entry Draft by the St. Louis Blues.

    And the head coach on Lordo: "Joe is a fierce competitor who thrived as Sioux Falls' captain. He is extremely difficult to play against but also offensively talented as he led his team's defenseman in scoring," said Gadowsky. "Joe is very experienced and should be able to play significant minutes for us."

    Lordo had 21 points (3 goals, 18 assists), which led his team for defensemen, in 58 games for Sioux Falls in the USHL.

    This post was edited by Andrew Dzurita on 4/26/2012 at 12:46 PM

    Men's Hockey Adds Gardiner, Lordo to 2012-13 Roster - Penn State University Official Athletic Site

    Forward Max Gardiner, a 2010 National Hockey League draft choice, and defenseman Joseph Lordo have been added to the 2012-13 roster for the Penn State men's hockey team, head coach Guy Gadowsky announced Thursday.

    www.gopsusports.com

    Andrew Dzurita

  • Again, here is the Google Map (similar to the football offers one) with all of the commits hometowns: http://tinyurl.com/PSUHockeyMap

    Then there is an eligibility matrix to see how many guys are committed by year, and includes links to stories about each player: http://tinyurl.com/PSUHockeyMatrix

    Andrew Dzurita

  • What's the deal with Gardiner since he was drafted? Is he giving up on the NHL or is PSU just another stepping stone on his way there? Can he be re-drafted or does St. Louis still own his rights?

    Sorry for the 20 questions, I'm just curious how it all works. Thanks for any answers anyone has.

    basebrad8

  • basebrad8 said...

    What's the deal with Gardiner since he was drafted? Is he giving up on the NHL or is PSU just another stepping stone on his way there? Can he be re-drafted or does St. Louis still own his rights?

    Sorry for the 20 questions, I'm just curious how it all works. Thanks for any answers anyone has.

    No problem, NCAA college hockey is new around these parts.

    When the Blues drafted Gardiner, they didn't sign him which allows him to continue playing amateur hockey, whether that is at the junior level or at the NCAA level. They still hold the rights to Gardiner after selecting him in 2010, and are now just watching his progression.

    If a player is not signed by the NHL team that drafted him within two years of being selected, can re-enter the draft, as long as he is 20 years old or younger at the time of the subsequent draft. Players over 20 become unrestricted free agents.

    NCAA players are an exception: NHL teams retain the rights to a college player until 30 days after the player has left college, whether that is due to graduation or leaving early for the NHL.

    Andrew Dzurita

  • basebrad8 said...

    What's the deal with Gardiner since he was drafted? Is he giving up on the NHL or is PSU just another stepping stone on his way there? Can he be re-drafted or does St. Louis still own his rights?

    Sorry for the 20 questions, I'm just curious how it all works. Thanks for any answers anyone has.

    This isn't like baseball where the drafting team loses his rights if they can't sign him immediately. STL owns his rights throughout to a certain point after his college eligibility runs out, unless he bolts early.

    I don't think he is giving up on the NHL. Some kids need a change of scenery. Maybe he wasn't getting the playing time; maybe he was getting squeezed out with whats coming in considering Minnesota seems to be on the upward climb back to relevancy. Maybe Lucia's style didn't suit him and his development?

    Hamilton Lion

  • I think Gardiner was quoted as being unahppy with the playing time at Minnesota. Not sure if he was a scratch for some games or left to go to the USHL midseason, but I know he only played 17 games that year. Either he wasn't even getting into the lineup or he was tired of the low minutes.

    Either way, I think he is still a legit NHL prospect if he can improve at PSU. He has good size and you don't become a finalist for Mr. Hockey in Minnesota without some talent.

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  • Jake Gardiner, of the Toronto Maple Leafs, is brothers with Max. Jake played in 75 games for the Leafs with 30 points.

    Jake Gardiner - Toronto Maple Leafs - NHL - Yahoo! Sports

    The latest stats, facts, news and notes on Jake Gardiner of the Toronto Maple Leafs

    sports.yahoo.com

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  • basebrad8 said...

    What's the deal with Gardiner since he was drafted? Is he giving up on the NHL or is PSU just another stepping stone on his way there? Can he be re-drafted or does St. Louis still own his rights?

    Sorry for the 20 questions, I'm just curious how it all works. Thanks for any answers anyone has.

    A lot of prospects that go the US college route will still go pro, they are just taking a different route that takes about the same length of time.

    Many (if not most) Jr players in Canada will spend a few years in the minors before they get called up to the NHL. So Jr until 20 then AHL until sometime in their 20's. College kids do school until 21 or 22 then AHL until mid 20's. The stars may go straight to the NHL, but most prospects take their full jr time and a few years in the AHL. A college star can also make the jump straight from college to the NHL but it is prob a little more rare. IMO that is b/c most that are that good know it and hit the JR A route at 16 and don't plan to go the college route.

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