The Lions' Pride

I'm sorry, but Penn State's not even fighting these stereotypes. If the school doesn't have the balls to do it, why should the kids be exepcted to fight against the controversy?

I do agree though, the kids that choose to come here, show an unusual amount of courage, and deserve praise.

I'm sorry for my post, you're exactly right, and I made my point quite poorly.

We, the community, are acting as we should. There are different voices, opinions, and ideas in our community in how we should go forward in the aftermath of the scandal. There are some very heated debates - as it should be. However, almost everyone in that community agrees that we are so much more than what the media says we are. Almost everyone agrees that football and other athletics aren't guilty of anything, inspite of what the media says. For all the supposed worshipping we do, we'd never do to Joe, what Alabama fans did to Nick Saban during SEC Media week. We were the fanbase that said it was ok to lose while Joe remained coach, because our program represented something a whole lot more than winning. That doesn't speak to a culture that only cares about winning football games. We are also the community that demands the University to change its ways so that crimes will ALWAYS be reported, that the football program can't operate in secrecy, that the administration has to answer ro someone.

Unfortunately, that community's voice has been silenced by a administrative system that doesn't take our voice into account. 90& of the BOT isn't decided by election. The President doesn't have to answer to Penn State, he answers to the BOT. Who does the BOT answer to? No one. Unofrtunately, they are the voice that the media listens to. They are the voices that the newspapers speak to - and right now, those voices are NOT fighting for Penn State. They are letting everyone else define who we are as a University and community, without raising a finger to fight. There's very little we can do about that.

Until someone in the administration or the BOT gets the courage to stand up and fight for us, we are going to continue to struggle recruiting kids to play football for us, and struggle to keep the kids we have committed. These 17 & 18 years olds are under INTENSE pressure to NOT keep their commitment to Penn State. They are up against a tide of bad press.

Webb just committed to UNC per Farrell

Damn

I don't see him sticking there either

yeah hopefully he is the first and only domino to fall but until we get a definitive answer on what our sanctions will be (whether self imposed or not) we will be walking on eggshells with pretty much every recruit.

If he truly feels that is the best decision for him then I won't fault him a bit but I would have liked to see him in Blue & White

Eh, I'm not sweating a 1 tech DT. I will sweat losing a good CB for the 2nd yr in a row.

THIS +1

It will be funny what he does when UNC gets hit with some sanctions.

it was only a matter of time. They wanted to play together.

UNC? Yeah, good luck.

Why are higher rated kids committing to UNC? It's a certainty they'll get hit with more sanctions. Whatever, we should have known something like this was going to happen.

It was probably a lot easier for Webb to do this, since his family was moving to North Carolina. At that point, you had both distance AND a scandal working against us.